Your best way of perfect cloning

HydroRed said:

I dont use any rooting gels, but you can try and see what works best for you. I just use a very small amount og FF Grow Big for hydro. Just enough to bump up the ppm. I like to keep my res water for the cloner under 200ppm. My very first time using the bubble cloner, I used just straight tap water ph'd to 6.0 and they rooted fine. I seem to think I get quicker results with an elevated ppm over my city tap water ppm of approx 100.

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Does your city water contain chlorine, sorry if I missed that. I've heard it's a good thing for cloners as well.

Well let's settle this. I will clone 25 clones using the rock wool method and 25 clones using the bubble cloner. I have everything needed I have the bubble cloner and the rock wool cubes I just don't have the rooting hell would rabbit root work?!? In its place?

Just to clarify a dome is needed when using RW, or rooting cubes in my experience. Never really tried a bubble cloner other than sticking a cutting in an empty net pot in my spray setup (it rooted BTW). With out a dome I lose them. As for a bubble cloner being quicker I get roots in 7-10 days using root riot cubes and big ones lol. I was going to try a bubble cloner last time but decided to try the root riot cubes instead of rock wool and was quite happy.

So many optionssssss lol. I will try the bubble/aeroponic type cloning system as well as the rooting gel and the rock wool cubes. I'll keep the in moderate humidity Imo as long as you moist and spray the leaves you'll be good without checking the humidity

Budley Doright said:

Does your city water contain chlorine, sorry if I missed that. I've heard it's a good thing for cloners as well.

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Yes, my tap water is chlorinated, but I let it sit for 24 hrs before using it with the fresh cuttings. I have yet to let my cuttings go more than 14 days. I change my water 1 time in this maximum of 14 days so it doesnt get slimy and full of bacteria.
As for GSC being good candidate for sog, I cant offer any input since I've never grown it. I can say though if it is indeed an indica strain, it would be ideal for a sog if you want bushy but short fast crops.

GSC is known for lower yields, not sure of structure, also is it really a GSC cutting or a box of chocolates mystery seed .

My plan is using gsc/sour diseal kush/big bud/Chanel all in a sog. I'm just wondering how these adapt since I wanted to do a blueberry but I've heard those aren't good for cloning

I haven't grown BB in years but cloned hundreds if not thousands lol. That was the staple here for years coming from a select few then it was gone...... poof lol. Tried to resurrect it with Dutch Passion but it was a hermie piece of shit.

I used to use rockwool cubes along with Clonex, however, I invested in a small cloning machine a few years back out of curiosity and I LOVED the results. The airating along with some Black Label (root enhancer) added to the water just made tons of healthy roots. After that... I made a couple of my own cloning systems and it was game on.

I actually have an aerogrow thing for herbs that I used once, may have to repurpose it for cloning .

I used to run an aero-cloner for years. Its how I learned to clone. Last year my buddy got me onto Rapid Rooters or Root Riot plugs. These things are just as effective at cloning and much less work. No more adjusting acidity, no more worrying about root scum.

LamontCranston said:

I used to run an aero-cloner for years. Its how I learned to clone. Last year my buddy got me onto Rapid Rooters or Root Riot plugs. These things are just as effective at cloning and much less work. No more adjusting acidity, no more worrying about root scum.

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The guy at the store that gave me a tray of the root riot cubes said I could root a toothpick lol.

IamLordeYaYaYa said:

bubble cloners are super hard to get the water level right: too high and stem rot, too low and clone never roots. I would recommend rooting gel and RW. No joke, I was able to root some 10 inch flowering clones in the tiniest of RW cubes without any problems (not recommended, but demonstrates success rate of RW).

It will depend a lot on the plant you cut it off, but most clones need a TON of humidity. Think of creating a humidity dome of some sort. And be careful weaning them from it. I've had more clones die after rooting this way than fail to root.

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Your problem is cross contamination from not clean equipment!

Always run cloner water levels to just under the spray heads.

Add 12ml of house hold bleach to 1 gallon of water.

Add 1 oz of that bleached water per 5 gallons of water to your cloner and that will control the rot and you'll get roots in normal amounts of time. I simply buy the foam inserts as needed at like every other clone run - their cheap!

Blueberries said:

Awesome thanks for the tips! Also no sog for gsc? I have read otherwise but would love to hear your opinion if you have the time. So I don't waste mine

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SOG and yields are best obtained with higher yielding strains......GSC is a low yielding strain but, a nice buzz...

It's not hard to take even a "nice" Auto (I don't like auto's) and yield 340-400gr per a 2X2 area.....that's up to 1600gr in a 4X4 with a 1k giving 1.6 gr a watt!!....I have an employee who does SOG and runs several photo strains and she does that result every run! She runs Black Russian (Delicious seeds version) ECSD (Greenthumb) and an old school Sleestack Skunk.....clone

If you see a seed strain listed as "X" grams per M squared...that refers to SOG yields....From seed and flowered at 8", 10" or 12" strain dependent.

HydroRed said:

Yes, my tap water is chlorinated, but I let it sit for 24 hrs before using it with the fresh cuttings. I have yet to let my cuttings go more than 14 days. I change my water 1 time in this maximum of 14 days so it doesnt get slimy and full of bacteria.
As for GSC being good candidate for sog, I cant offer any input since I've never grown it. I can say though if it is indeed an indica strain, it would be ideal for a sog if you want bushy but short fast crops.

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Wouldn't a less bushy strain be better for SOG something with like one main bud so you can pack em in close, and a bushy one better for scrog?

Well now I'm unsure of what to do. I am vegging a mother plant as we speak. Hoping to get 50 plants under a sog of some gsc in a hydro base setup. We will see how it goes they will be spaced 1 foot apart under 1200 watts

Ever heard of an "ice tube cloner"? I've used it twice now and it's the easiest thing i've found yet. All you need is an "ice tube" tray from wal-mart, vermiculite, water, and a light source (i used superthrive 1 time and 1 time without with about the same results). No jels, no powders, and definitely no domes. Mine rooted and was transplanted into dirt at 10 days, the one i did at 14 days was rootbound and isn't as vigorous as the others.

I don't know if i can link to another forum, but here:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=42847

I can definitely see how that works! Although I'm a hydro guy so transplanted the clones from soil to hydro would be to much shock imo. I think I've concluded just buying rooting gel and sticking the babies in rock wool cubes under a CFL.

Blueberries said:

I can definitely see how that works! Although I'm a hydro guy so transplanted the clones from soil to hydro would be to much shock imo. I think I've concluded just buying rooting gel and sticking the babies in rock wool cubes under a CFL.

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it's not dirt, it's vermiculite which easily shakes off

passive hydro i think it's called

What I get for not reading the entire thing and skimming through it. I'm gonna definitely have to look at it and read it when I have a second. Thank you so much for the link