Why do you say that it was anti-Israel and not what it claimed to be?
Not entirely what I said, I said this is more anti-Israel than pro-Palestina.
That said, the eagerness to damage, the slogans, the agression, the complete lack of care and respect for private and public property in a protest for peace…, the fact this wasn’t a thing till some kids saw the news about what’s going on in the US. And above all, the unrealistic demands to punish Israelis, any, arbitrarily, with no reasonable argumenents.
The UvA (uni of A’dam), some of the most reasonable people on the planet, negotiated twice with the protesters but the latter leave no room for any negotiation and just demands “or else”. There are plenty of places to protest, mayors rarely forbid it and if they do they provide alternative locations. No giant fields or lawns like you have in front of unis. This type of protest with face covers, barricades, tents, intimidation of others, is against the law for reasons they made obvious by violating them.
In practice their demands come down to not wanting Jewish exchange student programs and end the cooperation with people who I’m inclined to think have little to no say in the Gaza situation. We all the know the authoritarian supporters, whether it’s in the US or Europe, are not the brightest part of the population. This works the other way around too, the brightest are usually not supporters of the authoritarian conservatives. One of the first things I posted in the Hamas thread was regarding a public letter from their brightest. The universities (same thing going on in Utrecht) adhere to their own strict rules to not have ties with anything Israeli ‘military’. Aside from the US there are few nations in the world we rather work with than Israel when it comes to anything that requires people using their brains in way that it‘s not restricted or brainwashed by government and religion.
Through a large EU subsidy program, the UvA works with “Israel” on the following:
- Inherit INHibitors , Explosives and pRecursor InvesTigation
- European infrastructure for Rydberg Quantum Computing
- Real Time End to End 6G Networks
- States’ Practice of Human Rights Justification: a study in civil society engagement and human rights through the lens of gender and intersectionality
- Mobility justice for all: framing safer, healthier and happier streets
- Machine learning for Sciences and Humanities
- Comparing voluntary compliance through different doctrines and nations
- Establishing a comprehensive understanding and taxonomy of children's digital maturity
The first on the list is regarding preventing attacks with explosives on citizens. Some high tech stuff, mostly human rights. Should we end these valuable potentially life saving or changing projects because some kids got all excited when they felt like it, just because the academics and institutes involved are Israeli? How is that supporting Palestina or Gazans? That’s punishment. Retribution. Collective…
The day Jewish exchange students cannot study at the UvA is for me a very black day. Not like they can safely walk the streets in Amsterdam without anti-semitic dutch-muslim kids harrashing them…. in Amsterdam, of all places. If we’d operate by that standard, punish students and academic institutions for their government’s actions, we wouldn’t have a single kid from any muslim nation in our schools. Definitely no Chinese either. How many times did they protest against that… exactly.
None of their actions ‘support’ Palestina or help their case, if anything to the contrary. Kids that take a precious sparse largely taxpayer-sponsored spot at UvA should at least be grateful enough to try words, a dialogue. Use their brain independently from the herd and social media.
Our cops are such pussies the protesters attack
them… A large part of what happened yesterday isn’t protesting though, it’s rioting, vandalism. For some (groups in the protest) this is all about pro-Palestina sure, but overall this is anti-Israel. Anti-anything-Israel.
(stop the genocide but from the river to the sea… fuck that)
Protest for peace Excuse to riot. The instigators here are not on the right or anti-woke.
As our minister of education and science, Leon Levy Professor at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, stated: fire eachother with arguments instead.
Protests against the war in Gaza have gone "clearly over the line," Prime Minister Mark Rutte said on X on Thursday. There were again pro-Palestinian protests at universities in Amsterdam and Utrecht overnight. The police arrested 32 people in Amsterdam. In Utrecht, protesters were taken away in...
nltimes.nl
“Demonstrations are allowed. Always. But using violence against the police and causing destruction is never allowed. Stop that!" the outgoing Prime Minister said. "More and more often and with increasingly harsh words, the violence in Gaza is being blamed on Jewish Dutch people. Unjustly! It is a form of anti-Semitism that we must continue to fight loud and clear. Don't be silent, don't look away. I will discuss this further on Monday in the Catshuis with numerous social organizations. Anti-Semitism should have no place in the Netherlands.”
I’m going to miss his what I think should be common sense.
