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Dr Kynes

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When people are involuntarily thrust into and stuck between fucked and more-fucked... should either outcome be "celebrated?"

A quote i encountered in the wild a few times in the outback of the internets: "saying it's not okay to be unhappy while someone has it worse, is the same as saying it's not okay to be happy while someone has it better."

Ironically enough, i've encountered many people who seem to embrace both sides of that quote, as in: it's not okay for me to complain, ever, because someone, somewhere (likely many) has it worse... but it's also not okay for me to be satisfied with less, because others have more... MUCH more... but then that gets contradicted by all the insinuations and imposed expectations, that i'm supposed to be happy with whatever i get, whatever i can grab, whatever befalls me. There's too much bullshit "witticism" out there, masquerading as wisdom.

Just like i can't "know" a god exists or doesn't, i can't "know" whether chemtrails "actually are trails of chemicals being sprayed on us intentionally for some purpose." I Can, however, "know," that our government and its various octopi agencies, are indeed motivated and authorized to do things We The People would NOT knowingly grant them authorization to do... and not just to Us. They do what they will, and if no one can ever pin them down after catching them red handed, they will never admit, to Us, that they have done anything wrong, and further, will attempt to humiliate and discredit anyone who suggests otherwise. That is, until they actually get caught (like they did with all the stuff listed in that one thread i linked). But then they're only sorry for being caught. Meanwhile, they are STILL doing loads of "untold" damage, while never having been sufficiently punished for all the other shit we know because they finally admitted it.

IMO, it's the smarter and safer assumption, to simply Assume that the government and its various autonomous parts, ARE doing whatever bad thing anyone thinks the evidences suggest they might be doing. How many times will you allow someone to grievously betray you, before you adopt an attitude of permanent suspicion and perpetual scrutiny?

It may be unfair or woefully inaccurate to say "the government," as in the naming of the responsible parties as "the government," is the one "doing" all these things to us. Maybe we should figure out the specific agencies involved in each thing, because i'm pretty sure "the whole government" is not secretly and knowingly conspiring against us in hundreds of different ways. But the few elite and most important ones, surely know what's going on, at least well enough to be reasonably expected to know that they should not do what has been and is being done. But ALL of them act as if "that's the craziest thing i've ever heard!" Especially those who DO know what and why they shouldn't, but continue anyway.


Anyway, there's a lot i want to say, but i suppose i've become jaded and disinclined.

I'm not sure why you insinuated that "the multiplex nature of causality" "means nothing." It clearly does, and what i was alluding to, is that almost nothing is ever caused by One single factor, and the complexities of various causes, known and unknown, often Does result in something called "immeasurable consequence." It's called "immeasurable," because you cannot measure it. There are too many causes and factors converging, for any "regular person" to even approach a sufficient understanding.

Where do you think "chemtrails" would come from? That's right: Real People, doing Real Actions, affecting Other Real People (and plants and wild and/or domesticated animals)... and all because they "believe" that they should do whatever they're doing, whether it's rooted in individualism or imperialism, or any other combination of any number of incalculable things, which ultimately leads to people's chosen actions. I could say Nationalism is equivalent to Religion(ism). People are taught to worship their country like a God, and their "officials" like Saints. Some of us figure out that's not the right way to view the world, but many do not, and those are the "ours" i worry about. I think pretty much anyone who realizes how full of shit All Governments really are, will be pretty much okay, as far as understanding the world well enough. Life is way too short to waste it on the wrong tasks... but that's what most of us do!

And you're absolutely right: i am indeed full of blame and shame... because i think it's important to blame the right person for the shameful acts so many continue committing. Also, i'm ashamed of the way those who make the world what it is, have made the world what it is (and no, i'm not referring to the good people doing good things, who try like hell to counteract the insurmountable detriments needlessly created by the others).

Life is also too short for everyone to obtain and know all of the details of every event. For this reason, we should embrace a more heuristic approach, but fine-tuned in such a way that it almost never fails. We can apply logic and reason to almost anything, and obtain a typically equivalent answer, even without all the relevant facts. We can figure who is doing all the bad shit, and why to expect them to continue doing it. We don't even NEED "ALL" the facts. We only need the specifically damning ones; the rest is largely irrelevant, except when the details become important (example: knowing who to charge with what: who "gave authorization" versus who carried out the actions... i would prefer those asserting false authority and commissioning the atrocities, to be more severely punished than those who actually commit the acts commissioned, because it's likely those "just doing their job" felt some sense of duress, because that's how order-followers are trained... and a person who lacks empathy will likely not understand why they are being punished in the first place, which is another can of worms...)

As for AO... it is indeed "lurking in the back alleys." It's still in the soil, and Monsanto is still operating. They're even allowed to sue farmers whose crops were pollinated involuntarily by Monsanto (spreading their) shit! Makes me want to patent some type of destructive mold, inoculate Monsanto headquarters, and then sue their ass for breeding MY mold "product." Maybe spores could be delivered via "chemtrail?" Maybe That's what the "chemtrails" really are? Maybe it's Monsanto spraying pollen from planes, trying to infect as many non-monsanto crops as possible, in order to create a scenario where they can claim "all farmers are pirates, because they "stole" our patented genetics! (which we sprayed on them on purpose, but let's omit that part)")
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Dr Kynes

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As for AO... it is indeed "lurking in the back alleys." It's still in the soil, and Monsanto is still operating. They're even allowed to sue farmers whose crops were pollinated involuntarily by Monsanto (spreading their) shit! Makes me want to patent some type of destructive mold, inoculate Monsanto headquarters, and then sue their ass for breeding MY mold "product." Maybe spores could be delivered via "chemtrail?" Maybe That's what the "chemtrails" really are? Maybe it's Monsanto spraying pollen from planes, trying to infect as many non-monsanto crops as possible, in order to create a scenario where they can claim "all farmers are pirates, because they "stole" our patented genetics! (which we sprayed on them on purpose, but let's omit that part)")

i was entranced by the final stanza of your Wagnerian Epic.

it demonstrated such pure unadulterated ignorance on the GMO issue that, even when compared to your "chemtrail" ranting, it stands out as pure idiocy.

if you measure success by how totally fucking wrong you are, then, well done.

you have reached the apex.

if you were to be any more wrong, you might risk circumnavigating reason, passing through the treacherous Straights of Mendaciousness, rounding the Cape Of No Hope and purely by chance, you might wind up at a fact.
 

reasonevangelist

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i was entranced by the final stanza of your Wagnerian Epic.

it demonstrated such pure unadulterated ignorance on the GMO issue that, even when compared to your "chemtrail" ranting, it stands out as pure idiocy.

if you measure success by how totally fucking wrong you are, then, well done.

you have reached the apex.

if you were to be any more wrong, you might risk circumnavigating reason, passing through the treacherous Straights of Mendaciousness, rounding the Cape Of No Hope and purely by chance, you might wind up at a fact.
Okay... so where, exactly, am i wrong?

And where am i being unreasonable?

And what is "success?" I've heard of it, other people claim to manifest it out of sheer positivity... but i think it's actually a myth.

I don't know what "Wagnerian" or "Straights of Mendaciousness" mean. I suppose i could google it, but why bother?

And it's ironic that you're essentially blaming me, for any "wrong facts" i may have unintentionally assimilated, due to the nigh impossibility of obtaining legit Truth (because at this point, all sources are suspect), which is actually an intended result of what i will term "the disinfobesity sphere" ("infobesity" is allegedly a word, according to Vsauce guy, and it describes the amount of available information which exceeds any person's capacity to learn everything... but i added the "dis" prefix, because a shitload of the "infobesity" is actually disinformation, intentionally disseminated by the propagandists, in order to further confuse the masses and discredit the dissenters... which is different from "misinformation," with regard to intent).

It's impossible not to swallow some shit, when you're swimming in a sea of it.

But yeah, i don't think i'm the only one who is beyond the event horizon.

I'm just sort of drifting toward the black hole whose pull has already claimed me.

On one hand, i'm pissed that i never really got to live this life for what it's worth. But on the other hand, i'm glad, so glad, that this life isn't forever.

The bad people who have ruined this world and my life, have done exponentially more than "enough" to make me wish i were never conceived.

So you'll have to excuse me for "flinching" every time i see "the government(s)" move its "hands."


I'm just not one of those people who can watch repeated abuses and not learn to expect them to continue.
 

Dr Kynes

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Okay... so where, exactly, am i wrong?

And where am i being unreasonable?

And what is "success?" I've heard of it, other people claim to manifest it out of sheer positivity... but i think it's actually a myth.

I don't know what "Wagnerian" or "Straights of Mendaciousness" mean. I suppose i could google it, but why bother?

And it's ironic that you're essentially blaming me, for any "wrong facts" i may have unintentionally assimilated, due to the nigh impossibility of obtaining legit Truth (because at this point, all sources are suspect), which is actually an intended result of what i will term "the disinfobesity sphere" ("infobesity" is allegedly a word, according to Vsauce guy, and it describes the amount of available information which exceeds any person's capacity to learn everything... but i added the "dis" prefix, because a shitload of the "infobesity" is actually disinformation, intentionally disseminated by the propagandists, in order to further confuse the masses and discredit the dissenters... which is different from "misinformation," with regard to intent).

It's impossible not to swallow some shit, when you're swimming in a sea of it.

But yeah, i don't think i'm the only one who is beyond the event horizon.

I'm just sort of drifting toward the black hole whose pull has already claimed me.

On one hand, i'm pissed that i never really got to live this life for what it's worth. But on the other hand, i'm glad, so glad, that this life isn't forever.

The bad people who have ruined this world and my life, have done exponentially more than "enough" to make me wish i were never conceived.

So you'll have to excuse me for "flinching" every time i see "the government(s)" move its "hands."


I'm just not one of those people who can watch repeated abuses and not learn to expect them to continue.
where are you wrong? it would be simpler to catalog where you are right, which is a short list:

1) the us govt HAS on occasion "experimented" on the US population, usually without harm, in pursuit of science or security.
Example: In the 50's the USAF sprayed a "harmless" bacteria over SF Calif to see how many people would get sick, and a few people died. the experiment was VALID and was intended to be harmless. the bacterium was selected because it was extremely rare, it's symptoms were very mild, and it responded very well to antibiotics. they had ample supplies of anti-biotics shipped in, large numbers of doctors on standby, and nobody was supposed to die, they just needed to know if low flying aircraft could spray biological agents against the population, so they could devise defenses. they did not anticipate that a few people would be so sick already, that this mild bacteria would kill em, but honestly, they were gonna die anyway.

2) the govt DOES lie to us regularly, so doubting their claims is always a good idea.

3) thats it, end of list.

you are being unreasonable because you are casting away reason in favour of UNREASONING FEAR and idiotic conspiracy hypotheses (calling them a theory is ridiculous since they have no supporting evidence)

Success: achievement, a favourable result from an endeavour

Wagnerian: Relating to Willhelm R. Wagner.

Wagner created operas extolling the "virtues" of a mythical, and entirely unsubstantiated "Heroic Tuetonic History" which portrayed krauts as the heroes of civilization. his mythical fantasy was adopted as Real History by the nazis an neo nazis to explain why they are superior, but it was all based on bullshit. his operas are also very long, bombastic, and full of outright falsehoods about every subject upon which they expound.

Mendacious: lying, telling a falsehood, being deliberately incorrect to support an agenda.

you have, just like wagner, created a fictional world in which you are the heroic figure, and all others are attempting to undermine your glorious works, like wagner, you have also invented a shitload of meaningless "words" with which to support your fantastical claims

my words have the advantage of being real, so there's always that.
 
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reasonevangelist

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really?

point out where they are incorrect.
I think it's self evident.

I was actually thinking about your "tactics" a while ago... i decided not to argue with you anymore. It's pointless and arbitrary. I normally like most of what you post, but you seem to dislike me for whatever reason, so i'll just refrain from engaging you further (but probably not absolutely).

Good day.
 

Dr Kynes

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I think it's self evident.

I was actually thinking about your "tactics" a while ago... i decided not to argue with you anymore. It's pointless and arbitrary. I normally like most of what you post, but you seem to dislike me for whatever reason, so i'll just refrain from engaging you further (but probably not absolutely).

Good day.
i do not dislike you.

i dislike the actions you have engaged in, like:

spreading bullshit stories about invisible all powerful conspirators engaging in a secret war with humanity caught in the middle, both sides horribly abusing their victims and forcing them to try and smite the other side, using inexplicable, implausible, ridiculous mechanisms by which they influence the world without leaving a trace of their presence, but in reality they are BOTH on the same side and it all must be true because there is no evidence, which proves the hypothesis, cuz only a truely powerful agency could do so much wile leaving no evidence of their existence...

sound familiar?

 

reasonevangelist

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i do not dislike you.

i dislike the actions you have engaged in, like:

spreading bullshit stories about invisible all powerful conspirators engaging in a secret war with humanity caught in the middle, both sides horribly abusing their victims and forcing them to try and smite the other side, using inexplicable, implausible, ridiculous mechanisms by which they influence the world without leaving a trace of their presence, but in reality they are BOTH on the same side and it all must be true because there is no evidence, which proves the hypothesis, cuz only a truely powerful agency could do so much wile leaving no evidence of their existence...

sound familiar?

I've bolded the parts where you're wrong.

They're not invisible, and i never said they were. They're merely "cloaked" or "disguised." Sometimes they "hide in plain sight."
Their machinations are not inexplicable or implausible, but they are worthy of ridicule...
They DO leave traces, and plenty of them. Look around.
There IS evidence, but many have never encountered it, and when they do, they don't understand it, and many will simply deny it exists, while it repeatedly slaps them in the face.
Absence of apparent evidence (which isn't even true; it's not absent) does not prove anything other than the lack of apparent evidence (but not the lack of less-apparent or hidden/disguised/denied evidence), which people apparently expect to first be apparent (or rather, irrefutably obvious), in order to justify even acknowledging any need for any search for any evidence... which is just stupid (or because they're afraid of losing their illusions).
Again: they have NOT "left no trace."
If there were no trace, no one would be questioning the traces, and correlating them to various interpretations and conclusions.


The problem is this:

“Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

Jung also has a few words related to the same issue...

“There is no coming to consciousness without pain. People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own Soul. One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious.”

“The most terrifying thing is to accept oneself completely.”

“Mistakes are, after all, the foundations of truth, and if a man does not know what a thing is, it is at least an increase in knowledge if he knows what it is not.”
― C.G. Jung
 

Dr Kynes

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I've bolded the parts where you're wrong.

They're not invisible, and i never said they were. They're merely "cloaked" or "disguised." Sometimes they "hide in plain sight."
Their machinations are not inexplicable or implausible, but they are worthy of ridicule...
They DO leave traces, and plenty of them. Look around.
There IS evidence, but many have never encountered it, and when they do, they don't understand it, and many will simply deny it exists, while it repeatedly slaps them in the face.
Absence of apparent evidence (which isn't even true; it's not absent) does not prove anything other than the lack of apparent evidence (but not the lack of less-apparent or hidden/disguised/denied evidence), which people apparently expect to first be apparent (or rather, irrefutably obvious), in order to justify even acknowledging any need for any search for any evidence... which is just stupid (or because they're afraid of losing their illusions).
Again: they have NOT "left no trace."
If there were no trace, no one would be questioning the traces, and correlating them to various interpretations and conclusions.


The problem is this:

“Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

Jung also has a few words related to the same issue...

“There is no coming to consciousness without pain. People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own Soul. One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious.”

“The most terrifying thing is to accept oneself completely.”

“Mistakes are, after all, the foundations of truth, and if a man does not know what a thing is, it is at least an increase in knowledge if he knows what it is not.”
― C.G. Jung
ohh i'm sorry, when i said "No Trace", i guess i should have said NO EVIDENCE.

i didnt mean to hurt your feelings.

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if you wish to continue arguing for your conspiracy hypotheses, you should provide EVIDENCE of their existence, as has been requested many times before.












In B4 "Do Your Own Research!!"
 

reasonevangelist

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In B4 "Do Your Own Research!!"
You can't spell "learn" without "earn."

If you're unwilling to look at the evidence, that doesn't magically make it not exist. If you wanted to see what you already know, but don't want to admit is there, we wouldn't be arguing.

Here, i'll do a mashup of two quotes:

"People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid having their illusions destroyed."
- Nietzsche, Jung, and Me.

"The most terrifying thing is to voluntarily dissolve one's own false constructs, and accept one's reality completely."
- Me (a modification of Jung's similar quote)


And just like with theists, i'll adjourn and refrain from insisting you alter your comfortable delusions. You have a right to believe or disbelieve, according to your own preference. I used to think otherwise, but i've learned that fixing what's wrong with the world, is really none of my business.
 

Dr Kynes

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You can't spell "learn" without "earn."

If you're unwilling to look at the evidence, that doesn't magically make it not exist. If you wanted to see what you already know, but don't want to admit is there, we wouldn't be arguing.

Here, i'll do a mashup of two quotes:

"People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid having their illusions destroyed."
- Nietzsche, Jung, and Me.

"The most terrifying thing is to voluntarily dissolve one's own false constructs, and accept one's reality completely."
- Me (a modification of Jung's similar quote)


And just like with theists, i'll adjourn and refrain from insisting you alter your comfortable delusions. You have a right to believe or disbelieve, according to your own preference. I used to think otherwise, but i've learned that fixing what's wrong with the world, is really none of my business.
yep, just as expected.

no evidence, merely vague quotes from historical figures of dubious value, and pointless self-quoting.

if you are so convinced by the "evidence", why not share it?

because

"U R 2 Deep In Teh Matrix..."

"Sheeple...."

"WAKE UUUUP!!!"

"U R 1 Of THEM !!"

"...Illuminati Doesnt Want U 2 No Da Troof!!"

 

reasonevangelist

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yep, just as expected.

no evidence, merely vague quotes from historical figures of dubious value, and pointless self-quoting.

if you are so convinced by the "evidence", why not share it?

because

"U R 2 Deep In Teh Matrix..."

"Sheeple...."

"WAKE UUUUP!!!"

"U R 1 Of THEM !!"

"...Illuminati Doesnt Want U 2 No Da Troof!!"

Ah, the ad hominem generalized stereotyping discrediting defense.

Yep, just as expected.

See why i'm disinclined to argue? You just demonstrated for me, why it's better for you to look into any of it yourself, rather than for me to foolishly expect that you would do anything other than misrepresent anything i might try to share or express, in order to protect your illusions and advance your own agenda. ^^

Sidenote: hypothesis and conjecture cannot be accurately described as "lies." Those things come with the obvious caveat of "maybe" or "i think" or "perhaps." They are merely notions, not insistent assertions.

I never said "chemtrails are definitely the government poisoning us."

I said: according to their history, how do we know they're not? And if they are, we won't know until we can remove their "plausible deniability."

Not sure why you're trying to defend the gov't's heinous atrocities... but if that's what you're into, at least i learned something today.
 

Dr Kynes

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Ah, the ad hominem generalized stereotyping discrediting defense.

Yep, just as expected.

See why i'm disinclined to argue? You just demonstrated for me, why it's better for you to look into any of it yourself, rather than for me to foolishly expect that you would do anything other than misrepresent anything i might try to share or express, in order to protect your illusions and advance your own agenda. ^^

Sidenote: hypothesis and conjecture cannot be accurately described as "lies." Those things come with the obvious caveat of "maybe" or "i think" or "perhaps." They are merely notions, not insistent assertions.

I never said "chemtrails are definitely the government poisoning us."

I said: according to their history, how do we know they're not? And if they are, we won't know until we can remove their "plausible deniability."

Not sure why you're trying to defend the gov't's heinous atrocities... but if that's what you're into, at least i learned something today.
thats not Ad Hominem (use the googles)

thats what ya call "Predicting Your Next Play" because i have had this exact same argument with dozens of Troofers and it always ends up the same.

i say "show me the proof that that you found so convincing" and they respond with "Do Ur Own Reserches!!" and then begin accusing me of being part of the conspiracy they have never demonstrated actually exists.

provide me with the evidence you found so compelling, and ill look at it.

but thats unlikely to happen since it's so much easier to hide behind accusations of being "One Of Them!!" than to actually demonstrate that youre not a frootloop.
 

reasonevangelist

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thats not Ad Hominem (use the googles)

thats what ya call "Predicting Your Next Play" because i have had this exact same argument with dozens of Troofers and it always ends up the same.

i say "show me the proof that that you found so convincing" and they respond with "Do Ur Own Reserches!!" and then begin accusing me of being part of the conspiracy they have never demonstrated actually exists.

provide me with the evidence you found so compelling, and ill look at it.

but thats unlikely to happen since it's so much easier to hide behind accusations of being "One Of Them!!" than to actually demonstrate that youre not a frootloop.
I haven't accused you of being part of the conspiracy yet. You're leaping to erroneous conclusions.

Edit: the comic is ad hominem. It's deliberately insulting through the depiction of a caricature stereotype, and you're using it to fill the vacancy of your lack of a valid argument.

Your "predicting your next move" is: 1. wrong, and 2. predictable.

That's why i'm tired of arguing with people who refuse to look at the easily available information, which they manage to pretend "doesn't exist," simply because they refuse to look for it at all.

The evidence i've found so compelling is copious and widely dispersed. I can't just go write you a novel about it real quick, and i don't know of any place where it has been sufficiently compiled. It's been years since i bothered to act like an expert on the matter, and i quit doing it precisely because of people who act like you're acting now.

It's as though you expect me to link you to a few tweets that should convince you, and if i can't, i'm "lying." Seems pretty unreasonable to me.

If people want to ignore what happened, and pretend no evidence exists, then my words can only have the power my audience allows. If my audience has already decided my words are false, why should i verbalize anything?
 
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Dr Kynes

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I haven't accused you of being part of the conspiracy yet. You're leaping to erroneous conclusions.

Edit: the comic is ad hominem. It's deliberately insulting through the depiction of a caricature stereotype, and you're using it to fill the vacancy of your lack of a valid argument.

Your "predicting your next move" is: 1. wrong, and 2. predictable.

That's why i'm tired of arguing with people who refuse to look at the easily available information, which they manage to pretend "doesn't exist," simply because they refuse to look for it at all.

The evidence i've found so compelling is copious and widely dispersed. I can't just go write you a novel about it real quick, and i don't know of any place where it has been sufficiently compiled. It's been years since i bothered to act like an expert on the matter, and i quit doing it precisely because of people who act like you're acting now.

It's as though you expect me to link you to a few tweets that should convince you, and if i can't, i'm "lying." Seems pretty unreasonable to me.

If people want to ignore what happened, and pretend no evidence exists, then my words can only have the power my audience allows. If my audience has already decided my words are false, why should i verbalize anything?

riiight...

that cartoon could only hurt your delicate feelings if it struck close to home.

you dont have to type up a dissertation, just tell me what website/source you think is so authoritative and convincing.

but you wont do that because your conclusion is culled from snippets of hundreds of different conspiracy pundits, and no two conspiracy loons agree on any detail, because conspiracy punditry is based on FEELS, and no two loons feel the same about anything.

maybe you think some particular site is dead on, when they discuss " occult signs and the masonic connection" but dont agree with their conclusion when it ends (as usual) with "THE JEWS"

maybe you really agree with some author on all his CIA Mind Control claims, but dont accept his insistence that his size 30 anus was the result of alien abductions, and not being a submissive bottom in a truck stop men's room night after glorious sweaty night.

i dont care WHY you refuse to give your sources (like all troofers) but the fact remains, you wont offer any evidence to support your assertions.
 

reasonevangelist

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riiight...

that cartoon could only hurt your delicate feelings if it struck close to home.
kinda like how black people only dislike being called "the N-word" because "it struck close to home."

Right?

What i dislike is your intentionally unsavory misrepresentation of me (and everyone else who thinks similarly)... not because it's accurate (it isn't), but because you're perpetuating an injurious myth against my kind, which causes me and my kind to become even more ostracized, which was never how i intended to experience life, but have since had that condition imposed upon me unjustly, by people who value their illusions so highly that they'd damage others in order to protect those illusions. You know, exactly like THE GOVERNMENT does.

But it's possible that you're not knowingly conspiring with the disinformation campaign, and are instead actually convinced that our government would never do such horrible things to us... despite the plethora of contrary evidence.

But of course, since contrary evidence "doesn't exist," worthwhile communication has become impossible. By design? Perhaps.
 

Dr Kynes

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kinda like how black people only dislike being called "the N-word" because "it struck close to home."

Right?

What i dislike is your intentionally unsavory misrepresentation of me (and everyone else who thinks similarly)... not because it's accurate (it isn't), but because you're perpetuating an injurious myth against my kind, which causes me and my kind to become even more ostracized, which was never how i intended to experience life, but have since had that condition imposed upon me unjustly, by people who value their illusions so highly that they'd damage others in order to protect those illusions. You know, exactly like THE GOVERNMENT does.

But it's possible that you're not knowingly conspiring with the disinformation campaign, and are instead actually convinced that our government would never do such horrible things to us... despite the plethora of contrary evidence.

But of course, since contrary evidence "doesn't exist," worthwhile communication has become impossible. By design? Perhaps.
calling you a conspiracy nut is now racist...

good to know.
 
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