Capt. Stickyfingers
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My bad, I thought you were referring to AN. You still think nutrient brand is responsible for foxtailing and not genetics which is equally as stupid.
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homebrewer
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You're ignorant about genetics because you think the plant food one uses can change what is ingrained in the plant's DNA. You're ignorant about genetics because of the bold red print below. Indicate and saliva? Really, man?
lilroach
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I stop by this thread to get my dose of head-scratching when I read posts from pro AN growers.....most are not doing themselves any favors chiming in on here.
I have good friends that work at a grow store....a store with an entire aisle of AN products. What do they use with their personal grows? Hint: Anything but AN.
Someone mentioned how AN is specific to cannabis......I actually think it's specific to growers that buy into the whole "cannabis specific" myth.
I ask that anyone on the fence about nutrients to go to their local nursery and ask them what they use for their flowers and plants. Whatever they are using....go with that. Odds are that it'll be Jacks Classic professional or general nutrients.
I have good friends that work at a grow store....a store with an entire aisle of AN products. What do they use with their personal grows? Hint: Anything but AN.
Someone mentioned how AN is specific to cannabis......I actually think it's specific to growers that buy into the whole "cannabis specific" myth.
I ask that anyone on the fence about nutrients to go to their local nursery and ask them what they use for their flowers and plants. Whatever they are using....go with that. Odds are that it'll be Jacks Classic professional or general nutrients.
Aeroknow
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Well hey. At least he didn't say "strands" instead of strains.You're ignorant about genetics because you think the plant food one uses can change what is ingrained in the plant's DNA. You're ignorant about genetics because of the bold red print below. Indicate and saliva? Really, man?
That really makes me wanna slap a mother fucker rite there.
chuck estevez
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well, the l and t are really close on the keyboard.
wait,no they're not, tot, errrr.... i mean lol
wait,no they're not, tot, errrr.... i mean lol
pk_boosted2
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Strains may be predisposed to foxtailing if u dont provide them w the proper nutrients and climate. But a strain doesnt just foxtail because thats how it grows. Ive never seen any strains grow with foxtails and matter of fact theres been many articles written on the subject extensively. But if u think the genetics make a flower foxtail than ur an amateur grower and u still havent dialed ur grows or strains in properly im sorry but thats a fact.
And my statement about sativa dominant strains vs indica dominant strains requiring diff nutrients and ratios is also correct. If u think all strains require the same feedings ur a moron.
Thats like saying all strains only need calcium magnesium leveles of 2ml/gallon when my chem cuts run upwards of 7-10 ml/gallon or u get deficiencies. But u guys know everything so u must be right.
Anyone with experience growing a wide rang of varieties and strains over long periods of time w good results knows that diff strains and every diff phenos of strains require diff feedings and diff amounts of nutrients thruout the grow if u dont understand that go back to newbie section
And my statement about sativa dominant strains vs indica dominant strains requiring diff nutrients and ratios is also correct. If u think all strains require the same feedings ur a moron.
Thats like saying all strains only need calcium magnesium leveles of 2ml/gallon when my chem cuts run upwards of 7-10 ml/gallon or u get deficiencies. But u guys know everything so u must be right.
Anyone with experience growing a wide rang of varieties and strains over long periods of time w good results knows that diff strains and every diff phenos of strains require diff feedings and diff amounts of nutrients thruout the grow if u dont understand that go back to newbie section
homebrewer
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PLEASE post this nonsense in this thread (Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread ) and see what kind of response you get.
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pk_boosted2
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Sativas CAN BE PREDISPOSED **** HOWEVER
IT IS CAUSED BY FERTILIZER, temperatures or by PROLONGED FLOWERING PHASE
** FOXTAILING CAN ALSO BE A SIGN ON FLOWERING Phases THAT IT IS PAST RIPENING THE STAGE, thats why I said YOUR GROW THE FOXTAILING WAS THE NUTRIENTS BECAUSE IT WAS OBVIOUS THE FOXTAILS WERE HAPPENING DURING MID BLOOM.
Furthermore FOXTAILING occurs when the nutrients primarily potassium and phosphorus are used too much during flowering caused by improper ratios or excess use of a PK BLOOM ENHANCER.
FOXTAILING MAY ALSO OCCUR WHEN there is excess HEAT the flowers foxtail because they are seperating as a defense mechanism so they can absorb moisture from the air.
Or they can foxtail because they are over ripe and are developing an additional flowering phase which causes the calaxys to open and new growth shoots begin to form in clusters.
I DONT NEED TO ASK ANYONE ANYTHING IM TELLIN YOU FACTS FROM YEARS OF GROWING.
I never said sativas dont do it, I SAID THE REASON THEY DO IT IS BECAUSE OF ONE OF THESE FACTORS. Do you know what predisposed means?
Its like a family of human beings who have diabetes in their genetic pool. If the offspring (their children) have the improper nutritional, diet or other factor influencing bad health MAY CAUSE THEM TO BECOME DIABETIC.
Its the same shit ur plants r doing.
Because u gave them the environment to foxtail. LEARN SOMETHING TODAY I HOPE. Gees man tough crowd dealing w neandrethrals
IT IS CAUSED BY FERTILIZER, temperatures or by PROLONGED FLOWERING PHASE
** FOXTAILING CAN ALSO BE A SIGN ON FLOWERING Phases THAT IT IS PAST RIPENING THE STAGE, thats why I said YOUR GROW THE FOXTAILING WAS THE NUTRIENTS BECAUSE IT WAS OBVIOUS THE FOXTAILS WERE HAPPENING DURING MID BLOOM.
Furthermore FOXTAILING occurs when the nutrients primarily potassium and phosphorus are used too much during flowering caused by improper ratios or excess use of a PK BLOOM ENHANCER.
FOXTAILING MAY ALSO OCCUR WHEN there is excess HEAT the flowers foxtail because they are seperating as a defense mechanism so they can absorb moisture from the air.
Or they can foxtail because they are over ripe and are developing an additional flowering phase which causes the calaxys to open and new growth shoots begin to form in clusters.
I DONT NEED TO ASK ANYONE ANYTHING IM TELLIN YOU FACTS FROM YEARS OF GROWING.
I never said sativas dont do it, I SAID THE REASON THEY DO IT IS BECAUSE OF ONE OF THESE FACTORS. Do you know what predisposed means?
Its like a family of human beings who have diabetes in their genetic pool. If the offspring (their children) have the improper nutritional, diet or other factor influencing bad health MAY CAUSE THEM TO BECOME DIABETIC.
Its the same shit ur plants r doing.
Because u gave them the environment to foxtail. LEARN SOMETHING TODAY I HOPE. Gees man tough crowd dealing w neandrethrals
pk_boosted2
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No plants MJ plants simply foxtail just because u think they are supposed to grow like that bcuz they arent.
If u give the proper nutrients, ambient temperatures and humidity than ur flowers should form in somewhat dense compact tight clusters of bud. They shudnt look like snowman stacked on top of each other and fan out with open fingers like a waving hand. Thats not genetics, thats a condition and predisposition to a characteristics of what MAY HAPPEN IF U GIVE THEM THE WRONG ENVIRONMENT.
Theres been many scholarly articles and journal written upon this subject look it up if u dont wanna listen im done arguing. If u think ur sativa strains are supposfd to foxtail to that extent theres nothing im gonna say or do to change ur opinion maybe another Mj expert can help u understand it if u dont wanna believe me. Furthermore, foxtailing and the "snowman calyx" formation are 2 entirely diff things. Yes sativas tend to grow elongated "snowman calyx shaped" growth tips coming to a point at the very top. They arent by any means supposed to foxtail with multiple headed colas that open up from diff places at the top of the colas that is foxtailing which is an issue with ur environment. IM SORRY IF U DONT BELIEVE ME BUT ALL THIS INFORMATION IS CORRECT AND TRUE. And i urge u to check anywhere with a credited source either scholarly article or journal and prove me otherwise but i know im right so i wont expect it at any time now or in the future. Later buddy
If u give the proper nutrients, ambient temperatures and humidity than ur flowers should form in somewhat dense compact tight clusters of bud. They shudnt look like snowman stacked on top of each other and fan out with open fingers like a waving hand. Thats not genetics, thats a condition and predisposition to a characteristics of what MAY HAPPEN IF U GIVE THEM THE WRONG ENVIRONMENT.
Theres been many scholarly articles and journal written upon this subject look it up if u dont wanna listen im done arguing. If u think ur sativa strains are supposfd to foxtail to that extent theres nothing im gonna say or do to change ur opinion maybe another Mj expert can help u understand it if u dont wanna believe me. Furthermore, foxtailing and the "snowman calyx" formation are 2 entirely diff things. Yes sativas tend to grow elongated "snowman calyx shaped" growth tips coming to a point at the very top. They arent by any means supposed to foxtail with multiple headed colas that open up from diff places at the top of the colas that is foxtailing which is an issue with ur environment. IM SORRY IF U DONT BELIEVE ME BUT ALL THIS INFORMATION IS CORRECT AND TRUE. And i urge u to check anywhere with a credited source either scholarly article or journal and prove me otherwise but i know im right so i wont expect it at any time now or in the future. Later buddy
pk_boosted2
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When a plant produces more than one elongated foxtail or crowning foxtail thats also environmental stress related.
Ur colas arent gonna form clusters of fox tails from genetics. U may have one tip on sativas on main colas that grows the bally calyxes that are dominant in the strain thats not foxtailing. Unless ur confused by foxtailing idk what to tell u go google it maybe someone else can clear that up for u.
Ur colas arent gonna form clusters of fox tails from genetics. U may have one tip on sativas on main colas that grows the bally calyxes that are dominant in the strain thats not foxtailing. Unless ur confused by foxtailing idk what to tell u go google it maybe someone else can clear that up for u.
homebrewer
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I just checked that thread, why have you not posted in it yet? There are 681 pages of sativa lovers in that thread, by all means, educate them
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pk_boosted2
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Ur plants as an example since u posted pictures lead me to belive it is a nutrient issue because of how airy the colas themselves are as well. Which i guarantee if u gave someone or were able to show us the dried flowers they shriveled to nothing but fluff. Which one of the ones u did show that was dried looked exactly like, which is an issue.
I grow strawberry cough which is one of the best sativas on the plant and i showed u the colas they dont come out w foxtails or airy at all. So thats another myth but whatever u say lol
I grow strawberry cough which is one of the best sativas on the plant and i showed u the colas they dont come out w foxtails or airy at all. So thats another myth but whatever u say lol
pk_boosted2
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75% of the people on here are amateur small time growers. Im finding out more and more it dont matter what ppl say on here its relevant after a brief convo who knows what they r talkin about and who doesnt.
If u think foxtails are normal growing sativas thats a personal issue not mine. Im not gonna argue with 100 other ppl who think they are right when i dont really care.
U can do whatever u wud like w the info i provide to you. Whether u think im wrong or right I know what i know and im content w that. I can only do so much. Anyone can look up foxtailing causes and find out for themselves.
Yes sativas more commonly can get foxtails based on a genetic predisposition BUT are only going to foxtail when the environment is incorrect. Period. TY
If u think foxtails are normal growing sativas thats a personal issue not mine. Im not gonna argue with 100 other ppl who think they are right when i dont really care.
U can do whatever u wud like w the info i provide to you. Whether u think im wrong or right I know what i know and im content w that. I can only do so much. Anyone can look up foxtailing causes and find out for themselves.
Yes sativas more commonly can get foxtails based on a genetic predisposition BUT are only going to foxtail when the environment is incorrect. Period. TY
homebrewer
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Strawberry Cough is a 50/50 indica/sativa hybrid. How are you still allowed to login to this site? I mean, RIU isn't exactly the cream of the crop in terms of knowledge bases but you've established a new low.
707humboldt
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Dude pk, just give up. Let these people continuing to believe what ever they want. They obviously have no idea. Its very apparent to anyone who has a clue whats going on.
tyke1973
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VEG
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canna a/b coco
rhizatonic,only for the first 2/3 week,and onlyif the clones have been bought in and look worse for ware,or if i really want to promote a larger root stock like say the clones have took a while longer to root than normal say 12/14 days then i will add rhizatonic,but if the clones have rooted fast 6/7 days then i sometimes leave it out its only the odd time i use it,i do most of the cuts my self so i feel no need to use it.But it is well worth haveing around.
FLOWER
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Canna a/b coco
week two big bud - advanced,for 1 week
week 5 pk 13/14.
VEG
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Sensi bloom a/b
root stim or superthrive.
I moved over from advanced nutrients because i like the idea of just the one nute all way through rather than a veg and a flower,i can't say any thing wrong about advanced but i have put my nute line up above, Both nute lines gave me pretty much the same amount per yeild.
The biggest tip i can give you is do not over complicate things when it comes to nutrients,most are not needed,Keep it simple.Most nutes out there now the all singing and dancing nutrients do very little more than the base nutes and i think there un needed.
FLOWER
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Sensi a/b
big bud or sometimes bud blood,but not a fan of bud blood to be honest
week 5 overdrive
If the laws was different here in the uk or we had the hot ball in the sky in summer then i would go all out organic,but i have tried most organic feeds and nothing comes close to good old farm yard crap but be hard to use this in doors,so i go with chemical feeds but just flush for a min of 12/14 days,and the taste is not a big issue with me has 90% of my crop is going to oil any way.
I can say that the bit i save back for one friend that vapes it,is all ways good tasting,she was paying 220 a oz for organic but no we donate a few oz for her medical reasons ,she says the taste is not that much different.Far too many grower's just do it has a cash machine i see no wrong in this what ever does it for you but it should be flushed right,it should be a crime to sell un flushed finished product.
I mean i need my bud for med reasons so does my wife ,but if we had to pay 220 a oz like she did from london i would stop and go back to tablets from the gp.
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canna a/b coco
rhizatonic,only for the first 2/3 week,and onlyif the clones have been bought in and look worse for ware,or if i really want to promote a larger root stock like say the clones have took a while longer to root than normal say 12/14 days then i will add rhizatonic,but if the clones have rooted fast 6/7 days then i sometimes leave it out its only the odd time i use it,i do most of the cuts my self so i feel no need to use it.But it is well worth haveing around.
FLOWER
=======
Canna a/b coco
week two big bud - advanced,for 1 week
week 5 pk 13/14.
VEG
====
Sensi bloom a/b
root stim or superthrive.
I moved over from advanced nutrients because i like the idea of just the one nute all way through rather than a veg and a flower,i can't say any thing wrong about advanced but i have put my nute line up above, Both nute lines gave me pretty much the same amount per yeild.
The biggest tip i can give you is do not over complicate things when it comes to nutrients,most are not needed,Keep it simple.Most nutes out there now the all singing and dancing nutrients do very little more than the base nutes and i think there un needed.
FLOWER
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Sensi a/b
big bud or sometimes bud blood,but not a fan of bud blood to be honest
week 5 overdrive
If the laws was different here in the uk or we had the hot ball in the sky in summer then i would go all out organic,but i have tried most organic feeds and nothing comes close to good old farm yard crap but be hard to use this in doors,so i go with chemical feeds but just flush for a min of 12/14 days,and the taste is not a big issue with me has 90% of my crop is going to oil any way.
I can say that the bit i save back for one friend that vapes it,is all ways good tasting,she was paying 220 a oz for organic but no we donate a few oz for her medical reasons ,she says the taste is not that much different.Far too many grower's just do it has a cash machine i see no wrong in this what ever does it for you but it should be flushed right,it should be a crime to sell un flushed finished product.
I mean i need my bud for med reasons so does my wife ,but if we had to pay 220 a oz like she did from london i would stop and go back to tablets from the gp.
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pk_boosted2
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Go to En.seedfinder.eu
Go to the search and type in strawberry cough and look at all the diff genetics and companies who have strawberry cough seeds and look at the dominance mostly 75% are all sativa dominant less than 20% may be a split of some indica variety bcuz they are back crossed for that to be that way.
Go to the search and type in strawberry cough and look at all the diff genetics and companies who have strawberry cough seeds and look at the dominance mostly 75% are all sativa dominant less than 20% may be a split of some indica variety bcuz they are back crossed for that to be that way.
pk_boosted2
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Go look up original strawberry cough dinafem tell me what it is lol go look up the haze man seeds strawberry cough tell me what it is the list goes on and on