Seattle sees fallout from $15 minimum wage, as other cities follow suit

Red1966

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So why didn`t they stay home in Ireland and make some changes, instead of following suit and running away to a foreign land ?

Middle Easterners, Mexicans, South Africans, Brazilians, Asians and many more would rather come to the USA an bitch rather than raise the blade and make the change.

That`s what`s fucked up............
How do you suggest 18th century Irish eradicate the potato blight?
 

Red1966

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The fault lies in ones inability to look back and see where they have been and what they have done, then who benefited.

While your questions are all good, the process falls short. (you claim to think) but stop at confusion.
Why did you stop?
You holler "corporate fraud" when no corporations were even present. Nobody is gullible enough to believe your claim of testifying in Washington, SC. I stopped to give you a chance to defend your claims. You did not.
 

Red1966

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Grow carrots, go out to sea and fish,...I don`t know, I wasn`t there. But when my Gov. or military try and enslave or oppress me, I wont be leaving Boston.
You're clearly not a farmer or a fisherman. So you will surrender to them?
 

Grandpapy

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You holler "corporate fraud" when no corporations were even present. Nobody is gullible enough to believe your claim of testifying in Washington, SC. I stopped to give you a chance to defend your claims. You did not.


Ok, here take my hand....I'll take you step by step.

Mr. Wright says, Hey!, to the County, I have 6 building I'm gonna remodel, I'll provide training!
(Mr.Wright was developer, owned 3 Holiday Inns, 7 Burger Kings, 4 7-11's, He was Incorporated)


He would use the "welfare trash" to "gut" buildings. Then have his crew(s) come in to do the construction.

The County didn't like that and asked if I would testify, along with 3 others.
Since we didn't have cell phones, texting, or our Rep's web-site to fall back on we were forced to talk in person.
After a 3 hour drive, we met with our District Rep, and made our claim.

Think outside of your safe place! Don't be a dolt.
 

Red1966

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Ok, here take my hand....I'll take you step by step.

Mr. Wright says, Hey!, to the County, I have 6 building I'm gonna remodel, I'll provide training!
(Mr.Wright was developer, owned 3 Holiday Inns, 7 Burger Kings, 4 7-11's, He was Incorporated)


He would use the "welfare trash" to "gut" buildings. Then have his crew(s) come in to do the construction.

The County didn't like that and asked if I would testify, along with 3 others.
Since we didn't have cell phones, texting, or our Rep's web-site to fall back on we were forced to talk in person.
After a 3 hour drive, we met with our District Rep, and made our claim.

Think outside of your safe place! Don't be a dolt.
Not CETA. CETA is the Civilian Employment Training Act, a FEDERAL program for job training, in Federally run institutions, with trainers certified and employed by the FEDERAL government. What you're talking about, I don't know, but it has nothing to do with CETA. CETA gave institutional (not "on the job") training to welfare recipients while paying them a small hourly rate AND allowing them to continue receiving welfare. In effect, paying them to go to school. After graduation, they were in demand, as the government subsidized their wages to the employer. Only a small percentage accepted jobs, and only a small percentage of an already small percentage kept the jobs 60 days.
Why would you go to Washington, DC to testify at a COUNTY hearing?
 

Flaming Pie

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You bring up Ireland like that shit is anywhere near the fucking same. It's not even close to the same thing. Discrimination of blacks (to put it lightly) has been literally LEGAL in this country for at least 345 years (safe estimate 1619-1964). It was official government policy to view us as 3/5 of a person. All a fucking Irishman had to do was lose that ridiculous accent, and he became a regular white man. Problem solved. GTFOH with that Irish bullshit.
That's what I was saying with the whole oppression vs slavery.

Oppression of the Irish was indeed horrible but they could leave and relocate whenever they wanted. Look for greener pasture so to say.

Their struggle is more comparable to Mexican immigrants.
 

UncleBuck

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That's what I was saying with the whole oppression vs slavery.

Oppression of the Irish was indeed horrible but they could leave and relocate whenever they wanted. Look for greener pasture so to say.

Their struggle is more comparable to Mexican immigrants.
but i like mexican immigrants.
 

Padawanbater2

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Heard a good analogy on Reddit earlier about a regressive tax policy, like the one all of the republican candidates favor, except for Mike Huckabee I think who favors a tax on consumption which is even dumber..

Say a poor person and a rich person are buying pizza, the rich person can buy the biggest pizza they sell with all the toppings, the poor person can buy an individual sized pizza for himself with just pepperoni, now you put a 15% tax on each pizza, the rich person can absorb the tax, eat enough pizza to make him full and probably have more he can just throw away while the poor person absorbs the tax and might still be hungry when he's done

Regressive tax policy hurts the poor disproportionately
 

Uncle Ben

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McJobless In Seattle? Just installed, yeah!



According to a Business Insider report last month, McDonald’s franchisees see the minimum wage issue as “a major threat to the survival of the operator community,” and are encouraging the company to put “every resource available” into reducing labor costs through technologies such as kiosks and automatic fry dispensers.

Liberals never learn.

Read more: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/09/08/mcjobless-in-seattle-as-order-screens-arrive-labor-day-reality-check-for-15-minimum-wage-249245#ixzz3lApVZtl5
 

Uncle Ben

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Not CETA. CETA is the Civilian Employment Training Act, a FEDERAL program for job training, in Federally run institutions, with trainers certified and employed by the FEDERAL government. What you're talking about, I don't know, but it has nothing to do with CETA. CETA gave institutional (not "on the job") training to welfare recipients while paying them a small hourly rate AND allowing them to continue receiving welfare. In effect, paying them to go to school. After graduation, they were in demand, as the government subsidized their wages to the employer. Only a small percentage accepted jobs, and only a small percentage of an already small percentage kept the jobs 60 days.
Why would you go to Washington, DC to testify at a COUNTY hearing?
Comprehensive Employment and Training Act, not Civil. I worked with them in the public sector as an employer and administrator for many years. Biggest waste of tax money you've ever seen.

Adult and school age jobs programs. We offered Federally sponsored (tax payer) hourly wages by helping low income school children land odd jobs usually around their school, 15 hrs./wk. I as a counselor (who took apps, screeened them, did job assessments and placements) met with these kids to help map out a way of life - an education or training when they left school. We also hired adults under Title I and VII. Full time jobs subsidized by CETA funds. The private sector was also encouraged to get involved and some did. There were many drawbacks, they knew the employees were not the cream of the crop plus they (the private sector) had to kick in 50% of the employee's salary so it wasn't very successful, very hard to work.

Pres. Carter later initiated a welfare reform program which I participated in which required employment within a certain period of time or federal salary funding would be cut off, 18 months from the time of employment. Welfare assistance (child care) continued until (mainly) single mothers could get back on their feet. Many did, most didn't. Reagan was voted in and axxed many of the programs including CETA. Another wasteful program gone.

If there were any funds left in the budget by the beginning of the 4th quarter the local prime sponsor (my boss) was encouraged to spend it all so that they could get more come next budget year - put on more kids/adults......it became a numbers game. We never returned surplus monies to the feds, we always found a way to piss it off. That was a condition of employment.

Years - 1974 - to around 1982
 
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ChesusRice

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Comprehensive Employment and Training Act, not Civil. I worked with them in the public sector as an employer and administrator for many years. Biggest waste of tax money you've ever seen.

Adult and school age jobs programs. We offered Federally sponsored (tax payer) hourly wages by helping low income school children land odd jobs usually around their school, 15 hrs./wk. I as a counselor (who took apps, screeened them, did job assessments and placements) met with these kids to help map out a way of life - an education or training when they left school. We also hired adults under Title I and VII. Full time jobs subsidized by CETA funds. The private sector was also encouraged to get involved and some did. There were many drawbacks, they knew the employees were not the cream of the crop plus they (the private sector) had to kick in 50% of the employee's salary so it wasn't very successful, very hard to work.

Pres. Carter later initiated a welfare reform program which I participated in which required employment within a certain period of time or federal salary funding would be cut off, 18 months from the time of employment. Welfare assistance (child care) continued until (mainly) single mothers could get back on their feet. Many did, most didn't. Reagan was voted in and axxed many of the programs including CETA. Another wasteful program gone.

If there were any funds left in the budget by the beginning of the 4th quarter the local prime sponsor (my boss) was encouraged to spend it all so that they could get more come next budget year - put on more kids/adults......it became a numbers game. We never returned surplus monies to the feds, we always found a way to piss it off. That was a condition of employment.

Years - 1974 - to around 1982
It's so much cheaper on the tax payer to pick up the underpaid workers Medicaid and food stamp allotment
 

Wavels

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The road to hell is ofttimes paved with good intentions.

In San Francisco, popular restaurants Source, Abbot’s Cellar and Luna Park all closed their doors in recent months, citing the $15 minimum wage as the ultimate cause. Across the Bay in Oakland, which hiked the minimum wage to $12.25 earlier this year, 10 Chinatown restaurants and grocery stores have shuttered because of the wage increase.

http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article34269492.html

Minimum wage effect? January to June job losses for Seattle area restaurants (-1,300) largest since Great Recession
https://www.aei.org/publication/minimum-wage-effect-january-to-june-job-losses-for-seattle-area-restaurants-1300-largest-since-great-recession/
 

Grandpapy

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Comprehensive Employment and Training Act, not Civil. I worked with them in the public sector as an employer and administrator for many years. Biggest waste of tax money you've ever seen.

Adult and school age jobs programs. We offered Federally sponsored (tax payer) hourly wages by helping low income school children land odd jobs usually around their school, 15 hrs./wk. I as a counselor (who took apps, screeened them, did job assessments and placements) met with these kids to help map out a way of life - an education or training when they left school. We also hired adults under Title I and VII. Full time jobs subsidized by CETA funds. The private sector was also encouraged to get involved and some did. There were many drawbacks, they knew the employees were not the cream of the crop plus they (the private sector) had to kick in 50% of the employee's salary so it wasn't very successful, very hard to work.

Pres. Carter later initiated a welfare reform program which I participated in which required employment within a certain period of time or federal salary funding would be cut off, 18 months from the time of employment. Welfare assistance (child care) continued until (mainly) single mothers could get back on their feet. Many did, most didn't. Reagan was voted in and axxed many of the programs including CETA. Another wasteful program gone.

If there were any funds left in the budget by the beginning of the 4th quarter the local prime sponsor (my boss) was encouraged to spend it all so that they could get more come next budget year - put on more kids/adults......it became a numbers game. We never returned surplus monies to the feds, we always found a way to piss it off. That was a condition of employment.

Years - 1974 - to around 1982
It worked for me.
Thank You!
 

MuyLocoNC

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Didn't you know labor costs are meaningless and raising them to an arbitrary amount pulled out of liberals' asses, only take a sliver of the profits from the pockets of greedy business owners?

Liberals know this because their business profs that have never actually run successful businesses, told them as much.
 
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