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[nobody important 666]

I don't know why you think anyone who has a MMAR License "sold out" and purchased their license. There are actually sick people out there with compassionate doctors who believe in this medicine, and it's insulting to us to be called sell outs and criminals.

If you paid for your pinks then you sold out. Unless your on deaths door the program was not designed for you. Now i agree 100% it helps with a lot of different problems and we should have access but when people have 50+ gram day limits its a joke and needed to be revamp so it would be taken seriously. Now you have a ton of people whinning because their gravey ticket is going away and it mostly due to the fact that they paid for a right that should be free.

 

[gb123]

50 grams a day could be for more than one person..
You've never juiced before! That takes close to a pound of wet material every day!
Now are you talking concentrates or herb in this regard...

Concentrates can easily be taken up to 10 grams or more!!!
With comparison to the meds it produces.????..
50 grams is about 10 grams of oil... or less depending on the amount of meds on the plant
A person can ingest 10 grams of oil a day easily!!!!! In butter..in edibles...etc!!

quit assuming people!!!!

sounds like LP trolls yappin here...

 

[nobody important 666]

50 grams a day could be for more than one person..
Now are you talking concentrates or herb in this regard...

Concentrates can easily be taken up to 10 grams or more!!!
With comparison to the meds it produces.????..
50 grams is about 10 grams of oil... or less depending on the amount of meds on the plant
A person can ingest 10 grams of oil a day easily!!!!! In butter..in edibles...etc!!

To me a gram is a gram. Also to make oils or extracts you use the whole plant not just the best buds. So plant counts should not vary all that much. Your script is your unless you are talking dg and dont get me started on that farce

 

[gb123]

To me a gram is a gram. Also to make oils or extracts you use the whole plant not just the best buds. So plant counts should not vary all that much. Your script is your unless you are talking dg and dont get me started on that farce

Sorry man...There is way to much to explain.......and you need some explaining!!!
a gram of herb is not the same as a gram of oil....
I dont want anything green...I want meds!! plain and simple shit really

Sorry you cannot understand that easy simple point.
Meds are NOT THE GREEN PART OF THE PLANT!

next!

 

[R.Raider]

If you paid for your pinks then you sold out. Unless your on deaths door the program was not designed for you. Now i agree 100% it helps with a lot of different problems and we should have access but when people have 50+ gram day limits its a joke and needed to be revamp so it would be taken seriously. Now you have a ton of people whinning because their gravey ticket is going away and it mostly due to the fact that they paid for a right that should be free.

I can agree with some of this but definitely not all. My patient who has very bad MS paid for his pinks because his doctor or any other doctor in Regina wouldn't sign(without being paid). Should someone with the medical need have to pay? No they shouldn't. Did he sell out because he did? No definitely not.

 

[nobody important 666]

I can agree with some of this but definitely not all. My patient who has very bad MS paid for his pinks because his doctor or any other doctor in Regina wouldn't sign(without being paid). Should someone with the medical need have to pay? No they shouldn't. Did he sell out because he did? No definitely not.

My opinion only i think they did. If the need and releif was their they should have just done it. Then if charged fight it in court and forced the gov and medical community to change. Btw from the sounds of they are not the ones growing with mean the lp system would work if it wasn't so over priced.

 

[PKHydro]

To me a gram is a gram. Also to make oils or extracts you use the whole plant not just the best buds. So plant counts should not vary all that much. Your script is your unless you are talking dg and dont get me started on that farce

C'mon man, a gram is a gram, Really!?

Not everyone smokes their meds. Edibles, tinctures, salves/balms all take more product to make. My father in-laws skin balm for his discoid lupus is crazy concentrated, what he uses in a day takes us around 23g of starting bud to make.

Your painting us all with the same brush and it's not only wrong, but offensive.

 

[nobody important 666]

C'mon man, a gram is a gram, Really!?

Not everyone smokes their meds. Edibles, tinctures, salves/balms all take more product to make. My father in-laws skin balm for his discoid lupus is crazy concentrated, what he uses in a day takes us around 23g of starting bud to make.

Your painting us all with the same brush and it's not only wrong, but offensive.

The fact that you are missing and i have said a million times is the biggest problem we all have is that our med no matter how taken need a drug identification number and paid for by insurance or the gov like all other meds. Im positive you can make your cream with the other parts of the plant as well and not only the buds.

 

[doingdishes]

If you paid for your pinks then you sold out. Unless your on deaths door the program was not designed for you. Now i agree 100% it helps with a lot of different problems and we should have access but when people have 50+ gram day limits its a joke and needed to be revamp so it would be taken seriously. Now you have a ton of people whinning because their gravey ticket is going away and it mostly due to the fact that they paid for a right that should be free.

after 2 years of seeing dr after dr who refused to sign, you're damn right i paid a Dr for mine!
I am glad it was so easy for you to find your Dr. some here are not that lucky...nor did we SELL OUT!

 

[R.Raider]

My opinion only i think they did. If the need and releif was their they should have just done it. Then if charged fight it in court

See but he wants the opposite of this. He doesn't want to get charged, go to jail(even for one night), go to court, pay stupid high lawyer bills, risk losing his house, family, etc and pay full price for BM weed. Dude just wants to medicate in peace, now he does.

 

[doingdishes]

If you paid for your pinks then you sold out. Unless your on deaths door the program was not designed for you. Now i agree 100% it helps with a lot of different problems and we should have access but when people have 50+ gram day limits its a joke and needed to be revamp so it would be taken seriously. Now you have a ton of people whinning because their gravey ticket is going away and it mostly due to the fact that they paid for a right that should be free.

my wife has a 35 a day license and needs to increase it when the verdict comes hopefully in our favour and hopefully she will get 50. she is in a LOT of pain. taking the oil has reduced that pain.
her taking her oil caps got her off the narcotics and I got the love of my life back. i can see how someone can use a lot more than 50 a day....not smoking it though
if you are not able to see how someone can use 2-3 grams of oil a day along with smoking some and some shatter/budder on really bad days...that right there is over 50 G a day.
we were forced to pay for the pink...so i say again, because you paid for the pink does not mean you sold out!

 

[PKHydro]

The fact that you are missing and i have said a million times is the biggest problem we all have is that our med no matter how taken need a drug identification number and paid for by insurance or the gov like all other meds. Im positive you can make your cream with the other parts of the plant as well and not only the buds.

Wrong, we need to be able to produce our own meds if we want to be able to. I don't trust the government or any other corporation to produce clean meds for me. I want to see the plant grow and mature and know 100% that there is nothing wrong with it before I go making my medicine. I don't have investors to answer to or shareholders to impress, if my plants get mold, bugs, etc... they get chucked, I doubt a corporation is willing to do the same.

 

[nobody important 666]

Wrong, we need to be able to produce our own meds if we want to be able to. I don't trust the government or any other corporation to produce clean meds for me. I want to see the plant grow and mature and know 100% that there is nothing wrong with it before I go making my medicine. I don't have investors to answer to or shareholders to impress, if my plants get mold, bugs, etc... they get chucked, I doubt a corporation is willing to do the same.

I agree 100% but you should grow for you only. Ive personally know several dg's that supply almost as much to the cc's as much as their patients receive and pockets that cash. If med were paid for and you cannot grow then it really doesn't matter where they came from.

 

[nobody important 666]

after 2 years of seeing dr after dr who refused to sign, you're damn right i paid a Dr for mine!
I am glad it was so easy for you to find your Dr. some here are not that lucky...nor did we SELL OUT!

I actually don't have my pinks becauae i refused to pay a dr for something thats was is free. Ive been my own bm for 20+ yrs. But then again if they want to come after me they better bring an army. So yes in my opinion buying = sell out.

 

[PKHydro]

I grow for me and my family. I'm not talking about DGs or diverting to the BM. I was trying to say that the broad, all encompassing statements you were making about anyone with a MMAR License being a sell out, or how large scripts are stupid and not needed, was totally wrong.

 

[bigmanc]

How about this tread : who sold out long ago and paid the federal government/ doctor money for the right to grow. I guess that is what is meant when said "fighting for your rights as well". Sorry no sell outs here!

Can you explain why a doctor shouldnt get paid for MMAR but get compensated for MMPR?

If you paid for your pinks then you sold out. Unless your on deaths door the program was not designed for you. Now i agree 100% it helps with a lot of different problems and we should have access but when people have 50+ gram day limits its a joke and needed to be revamp so it would be taken seriously. Now you have a ton of people whinning because their gravey ticket is going away and it mostly due to the fact that they paid for a right that should be free.

Please fill us in with the information and facts you have found before making this statement, more specificially about "being on deaths door being a pre-requesit for MMAR" Also your reasoning for dosages and methods of consumption coinciding with dosages, sounds like you have a professional opinion and possible experience prescribing mmj...i could be wrong, i probably am.

The fact that you are missing and i have said a million times is the biggest problem we all have is that our med no matter how taken need a drug identification number and paid for by insurance or the gov like all other meds. Im positive you can make your cream with the other parts of the plant as well and not only the buds.

Please also link to this information, ofcourse leave trim out of it. Considering you specifically said "plant" i feel you ment other then trim anyways.

Other then the obvious things you got wrong it seems you dont understand what your talking about. If i had to guess, you began using slightly before or after the MMPR. College of physicians puts fees on forms to be signed, if its not covered they may charge what they wish. Thats up to them. You also dont seem to understand the difference between B1/B2, "being on deaths door" is so far from the truth, are you dieing? probably not. MMPR replaced MMAR not the condition needed to apply. If you researched, understood and most importantly experienced the changes you would be playing a different tune. Please be prepared and punctual with your supporting facts.

 

[nobody important 666]

I grow for me and my family. I'm not talking about DGs or diverting to the BM. I was trying to say that the broad, all encompassing statements you were making about anyone with a MMAR License being a sell out, or how large scripts are stupid and not needed, was totally wrong.

I do apologize i may have been to narrow in my statements. This whole conversation started with a certain someone who thinks that if you are not in the same exact mind frame as them then you are a sell out and was more pointing out the fact they sold out first.

 

[nobody important 666]

Can you explain why a doctor shouldnt get paid for MMAR but get compensated for MMPR?


Please fill us in with the information and facts you have found before making this statement, more specificially about "being on deaths door being a pre-requesit for MMAR" Also your reasoning for dosages and methods of consumption coinciding with dosages, sounds like you have a professional opinion and possible experience prescribing mmj...i could be wrong, i probably am.



Please also link to this information, ofcourse leave trim out of it. Considering you specifically said "plant" i feel you ment other then trim anyways.

Other then the obvious things you got wrong it seems you dont understand what your talking about. If i had to guess, you began using slightly before or after the MMPR. College of physicians puts fees on forms to be signed, if its not covered they may charge what they wish. Thats up to them. You also dont seem to understand the difference between B1/B2, "being on deaths door" is so far from the truth, are you dieing? probably not. MMPR replaced MMAR not the condition needed to apply. If you researched, understood and most importantly experienced the changes you would be playing a different tune. Please be prepared and punctual with your supporting facts.

Actually the alignment are different go read for yourself. Go tead the 2001 court case for yourself and i didn't say that the dr should charge for either mmpr or mmar so dont twist and add words to my thoughts. And why not use trim. And i have been around weed since birth but im not getting into that on here.

 

[bigmanc]

Actually the alignment are different go read for yourself. Go tead the 2001 court case for yourself and i didn't say that the dr should charge for either mmpr or mmar so dont twist and add words to my thoughts. And why not use trim. And i have been around weed since birth but im not getting into that on here.

See your full of shit, you say things and cant back them up. "Alignment are different" HC put a program in place and it was used as intended. To prescribe patients with with the need of mmj. If HC didnt like the reason they could have declined the application. Ive read the court case a few times, have had a convo on this very topic with mernaugh myself.

Doesnt really matter what you say anymore, you back peddle on what you say and you dont know the facts,legislation or the guidelines behind the MMAR/MMPR.

To sum it all up, your here tooting the horn of the MMPR/LP system yet your growing or atleast saying your growing in other threads.

All in all, your not a straight shooter what so ever and have absolutly no clue on what your talking about. Ive been known to fish out the bullshit from people here...tally up another 1

 

[nobody important 666]

See your full of shit, you say things and cant back them up. "Alignment are different" HC put a program in place and it was used as intended. To prescribe patients with with the need of mmj. If HC didnt like the reason they could have declined the application. Ive read the court case a few times, have had a convo on this very topic with mernaugh myself.

Doesnt really matter what you say anymore, you back peddle on what you say and you dont know the facts,legislation or the guidelines behind the MMAR/MMPR.

To sum it all up, your here tooting the horn of the MMPR/LP system yet your growing or atleast saying your growing in other threads.

All in all, your not a straight shooter what so ever and have absolutly no clue on what your talking about. Ive been known to fish out the bullshit from people here...tally up another 1

The list is different between mmpr and mmar if you got off your self rightous ass up and looked you might actaul know this. I never said shit about the lp system except you should grow your own and if you cant then the mmpr should be paid for by insurance or a gov plan. So you must have been one of the original 100 patients then huh.