Just in case you thought Israel was a nice country, just misunderstood

[NewtoMJ]

Israel is directly responsible for Hamas. There have been several Israeli figures from the 80's who have come forward in explaining the mossads involvement in the creation of the organization. It was part of the United States strategy in combating the "evil u.s.s.r." We pushed wahhabism, through our allies in Saudi Arabia. The United States saw a massive allie in 1 billion Muslims. They could push religious extremism in the middle east and therefore raise a proxy army to fight the "godless" commies.

 

[NewtoMJ]

Radicalism was almost non-existent. This was until the 70's and 80's when we helped push the radical ideas of the fatwa valley.

 

[MjAeJdIiK]

Are you sure you are not misremembering the removal of Jews from Gaza prior to them attempting to give it to the Palistinians. There the Israeli's bulldozed the homes of Jews so they wouldn't hold out. What did the Palestinians do with that opportunity?

IDK man in saw a documentary about some young kids in the Gaza , and in one part these 2 kids and the mom were watxhingbtjere house get bulldozed

Its funny to me how these countries start multiplying their heroin production by 100 (or whatever the number is) once America shows up.....Not too fucking funny

And all of a sudden a humungus increase of the most potent heroin that's been around in years, like a fucking plague here in new england

 

[NewtoMJ]

IDK man in saw a documentary about some young kids in the Gaza , and in one part these 2 kids and the mom were watxhingbtjere house get bulldozed

And all of a sudden a humungus increase of the most potent heroin that's been around in years, like a fucking plague here in new england

The heroin epidemic is similar to the 70s. Poor farmers in a war ravaged region trying to maximize their crop profits.

 

[Vnsmkr]

Radicalism was almost non-existent. This was until the 70's and 80's when we helped push the radical ideas of the fatwa valley.

Yeah but ego been around for 1000's of years. What do you think the Romans were doing?

 

[NewtoMJ]

Yeah but ego been around for 1000's of years. What do you think the Romans were doing?

Lol, no offense but I think I'm too high to understand what you're meaning.

 

[Vnsmkr]

Its a fundamental problem with humans wanting to war for power.....and ego is the culprit. Let go of the fucking ego (not pointed at you ) and all would roll for better, I do believe. I said it earlier in this thread. Why do people need to compete? WHat is that? Everyone could get along if they werent trying to compete and were just happy with what others did.....I know this problem is so far along now that it probably wont change (and thats why I will stay here).

 

[MjAeJdIiK]

The heroin epidemic is similar to the 70s. Poor farmers in a war ravaged region trying to maximize their crop profits.

Hmmm I didn't know this.
Not saying your wrong but wouldn't heroin farmers always want to maximise profits?

 

[MjAeJdIiK]

Hmmm I didn't know this.
Not saying your wrong but wouldn't heroin farmers always want to maximise profits?

Or maybe its because of the US presence like the US presence in south east Asia during Vietnam and long after? Maybe those have a connection?

 

[Vnsmkr]

Or maybe its because of the US presence like the US presence in south east Asia during Vietnam and long after? Maybe those have a connection?

Yes

 

[NewtoMJ]

Hmmm I didn't know this.
Not saying your wrong but wouldn't heroin farmers always want to maximise profits?

They didn't farm poppies until the WoT. Some did, but not like now. Terrorist groups burn their farms and force poppy production, so they can move the dope for funding. You don't grow poppy, they won't let you survive.

 

[MjAeJdIiK]

Yes

Hey your the southeast rooftop guy! Just realized that lol. So youri n SE asia you could probably find out more?

 

[NewtoMJ]

Or maybe its because of the US presence like the US presence in south east Asia during Vietnam and long after? Maybe those have a connection?

Yea. We are there, fighting these groups. The group's need cash. The u.s. doesn't get directly involved in the heroin. It just rises out of the war we wage.

 

[Vnsmkr]

Poppy production in those areas increased like 100 times in those areas before and during the wars. Really hard for me to not see some kind of connection. Like crack "epidemic" in the US. US had no role in that either

 

[MjAeJdIiK]

They didn't farm poppies until the WoT. Some did, but not like now. Terrorist groups burn their farms and force poppy production, so they can move the dope for funding. You don't grow poppy, they won't let you survive.

Wow that sucks

 

[Vnsmkr]

Yea. We are there, fighting these groups. The group's need cash. The u.s. doesn't get directly involved in the heroin. It just rises out of the war we wage.

I am not so blind that I believe it just rises. Really

 

[UncleBuck]

Israeli's opposed to Zionism need to have a civil war and toss the evil parasites from existence ...

seriously anyone who supports these Bastards are either Retarded or just filled with Pure Hate

i've seen your anti-semitic conspiracy theories before. you should die in a fire.

 

[MjAeJdIiK]

Yea. We are there, fighting these groups. The group's need cash. The u.s. doesn't get directly involved in the heroin. It just rises out of the war we wage.

That makes total sence, we are not helping grow it but the war we are involved in is making our enemy's push production for funds.

I have no doubt then someone tied to the US government is involved on smuggling the heroin into the country, if there's a way to make money someone's doing it

 

[NewtoMJ]

Wow that sucks

I've watched poppy fields burn, I've watched as the farmers are pressured by the u.s. to produce food. Days later that farmer and family have been forced to move, to produce more. Rough cycle.

 

[MjAeJdIiK]

I am not so blind that I believe it just rises. Really

He's not literally saying it "just" rises, he's saying the war we are fighting causes our enemy's to force poppy production to fund their side of the war