4 32 site xl undercurrent systems in a 20X40 room

killakanna

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Most of us with bigger sites dont care about any kind of food grade rating and just use plastic totes. That's probably the first mention I've heard of "food grade" sites tbh. People out there growing in just about whatever type of container you can imagine from trash cans and totes to Walmart bags and old paint cans.
Theyll likely break down and crack over several years but its modular so it takes $10 and 20 mins to swap a site.
Roger that. Just was concerned about testing for metals and stuff so I figured food grade was the best way to go. What’s been your favorite brand of bucket at that size?
 

fragileassassin

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Roger that. Just was concerned about testing for metals and stuff so I figured food grade was the best way to go. What’s been your favorite brand of bucket at that size?
a LOT of us use the HDX line of totes offered by home depot. Theyre cheap, readily available local, and have 7, 12, 17, and 27 gal options that are all suitable sizes for our use. I have a 17 gal and 27 gal options to use as my cloner and a 27 gal mother box I can put up 2 4 plants in.
 

bdt1981

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Are you looping them through the screen or just using it as a trellis buddy?
Well for the blue dream I'm just using it to hold the coals up. I decided with the bushy lost cause to break out the cages again. The side branching is unreal.
 

killakanna

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Well for the blue dream I'm just using it to hold the coals up. I decided with the bushy lost cause to break out the cages again. The side branching is unreal.
Would you be able to get to a 4 to 5 week veg if you tried stretching them through the trellis? Or is the rootball too limiting from a lack of space?
 

bdt1981

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Would you be able to get to a 4 to 5 week veg if you tried stretching them through the trellis? Or is the rootball too limiting from a lack of space?
You might pull it off with 4 with some strains but you would really have to man as he your roots. If the strain grows vigorously you better go 2-3. The glue last time filled bucket to much and had negative impact on the system by slowing the flow of the water to the point of making it flow faster thru different rows so some plants sit in same nutes for who knows how long. Have to pay even closer to the last buckets b4 the return manifold. The roots will clog those nets. Seriously the roots prob get 10ft long if you let go. I was thinking of maybe trying zip tying the roots when they get long instead of snipping but idk.
They are coming thru trellis alright. Took today off from the grow and worked my other job. I feel like a bad parent. Lol. They are drinking about 10-15 gal a day. Bumped ppm up to 490 to start seek 4 flower. Still about 1/2 strength I'm just scared to kill a crop.
 

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bdt1981

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Damn bro. How many sites you got in there now?! Looks like more than the original 72, no?
There is 76, 2 32 site and 1 12 site. Figured I should fill to max capacity. If not I'm wasting time. I was kind of bummed to only harvest 1 system last time.
 

killakanna

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There is 76, 2 32 site and 1 12 site. Figured I should fill to max capacity. If not I'm wasting time. I was kind of bummed to only harvest 1 system last time.
I mean bro. You got 14 elbows. But I see what you mean. I think it’s reasonable to expect 45 this run ! Let’s see the magic! How many water chillers are you running? What’s the res temps at? What does your Vapor Deficit range at?
 

bdt1981

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I mean bro. You got 14 elbows. But I see what you mean. I think it’s reasonable to expect 45 this run ! Let’s see the magic! How many water chillers are you running? What’s the res temps at? What does your Vapor Deficit range at?
The water temp is 63-68 with 1 1.5 hp chiller. I wasn't sure if it could handle it. After filling the res up to about 140 gal and putting bubble wrap covers on the lids of the buckets I had to raise chiller up to 60 from 55 because it was getting down to 59 at night. I'm not real hip to vapor deficit I read little about but haven't had time to get into it to much. Is that something j should look into more?
 

bdt1981

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I mean bro. You got 14 elbows. But I see what you mean. I think it’s reasonable to expect 45 this run ! Let’s see the magic! How many water chillers are you running? What’s the res temps at? What does your Vapor Deficit range at?
I know 14 not that much but the right strain will get a pound per site. Wish the glue would have been better weed cuz it was monster. I got rid of it tho. The blue dream is looking nice. Major side branching cant wait to see what they do.
 

Mr_Manny_D

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The water temp is 63-68 with 1 1.5 hp chiller. I wasn't sure if it could handle it. After filling the res up to about 140 gal and putting bubble wrap covers on the lids of the buckets I had to raise chiller up to 60 from 55 because it was getting down to 59 at night. I'm not real hip to vapor deficit I read little about but haven't had time to get into it to much. Is that something j should look into more?
I'd love to a pic of the coils. What size coils and how many did you go with? Great set up
 

killakanna

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I know 14 not that much but the right strain will get a pound per site. Wish the glue would have been better weed cuz it was monster. I got rid of it tho. The blue dream is looking nice. Major side branching cant wait to see what they do.
Oh I definitely wasn't being offensive bro! 14 is a proud amount!

I think that you should look into adding vertical lights and end point lights as well. Just throw this shit to the max. I already think you're crushing it to be honest, the only question I'd have is how was the final product in terms of taste, smell, bag appeal and high.

Why didn't you keep a cut of the GG4?! I deffo want a cut of that Blue Dream bro!! I had some Blue Dream x Stardawg but I had to end the grow due to unforeseen circumstances. :[.

Currently going to start out with

GG4 x Stardawg
Sour Diesel IBL
GSC x Chemdawg
(GMO Strain will be looking for a sweet yet gross pheno)
Purple Sundae Punch = (Fruity Pebbles X Grape Pie) x (Larry OG x Granddaddy Purple)
Bubba Kush
Forbidden Fruit



Part of me is scared that I may have gone with too many strains, but we’ll see.

Do you have a separate Resi that you bought (the 140 gallon)?
 

bdt1981

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Oh I definitely wasn't being offensive bro! 14 is a proud amount!

I think that you should look into adding vertical lights and end point lights as well. Just throw this shit to the max. I already think you're crushing it to be honest, the only question I'd have is how was the final product in terms of taste, smell, bag appeal and high.

Why didn't you keep a cut of the GG4?! I deffo want a cut of that Blue Dream bro!! I had some Blue Dream x Stardawg but I had to end the grow due to unforeseen circumstances. :[.

Currently going to start out with

GG4 x Stardawg
Sour Diesel IBL
GSC x Chemdawg
(GMO Strain will be looking for a sweet yet gross pheno)
Purple Sundae Punch = (Fruity Pebbles X Grape Pie) x (Larry OG x Granddaddy Purple)
Bubba Kush
Forbidden Fruit



Part of me is scared that I may have gone with too many strains, but we’ll see.

Do you have a separate Resi that you bought (the 140 gallon)?
Yes I bought a 165gal vet res and wrapped it in foil insulation and it's in the closet space in warehouse. Manifold coming out over head with 3 25ft 1/2" as wort chillers. They recommend a 1 hp per 32 site. I'm doing almost 2 1/2 systems with 1.5hp. Side lights maybe but I dont really have any outlets for them. I have the power but those gavita penetrate in a big room. The gg was just real earthy coffee smelling and I'm more into sweet and skunky. It was a beast tho. Oh yea it threw n as niners and have heard of 2 seeds being found in the whole crop. Of 10 gg i hit about 8lbs. Monster plants I would 2 week veg. But I need the kill as and the gg look nice but no strong smell.
In the 1st pic u can see chiller res and manifold in the back. The buds are the gg. It taste nice and puny tho. It was one of the 2 least faves. The one I thought was gold leaf but was either gelato or mk ultra. A clone machine flipped the spray manifold and took out half my clones in the panic I got mixed up. There was lost cause that I kept. Very nice bud. Very dense. Dont get tall very bushy very strong branches. Only had 1 on there and cant tell u exactly what It yielded. I dont think its included in the 13-14 lb total. There was one i thought was lost cause but thinking it was banana kush. Was great. My favorite and no clones of it. Sux. The gold leaf was supreme just need to dial it in on the notes cuz it showing same burnish looking leaf when got it up to 150ppm first week. Maybe it's to low but I dont think so. The slh was fire but no clones cuz i thought the gold leaf was slh and didn't want the plant showing issues. All in all i was bummed out that the 2 there were the most of were my le as st favorite. I really just threw what clones survived the cloner fucking up in to give a test run and see how it ran before starting multiple systems. I feel like I'm prepared to handle them now though.
 

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killakanna

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Yes I bought a 165gal vet res and wrapped it in foil insulation and it's in the closet space in warehouse. Manifold coming out over head with 3 25ft 1/2" as wort chillers. They recommend a 1 hp per 32 site. I'm doing almost 2 1/2 systems with 1.5hp. Side lights maybe but I dont really have any outlets for them. I have the power but those gavita penetrate in a big room. The gg was just real earthy coffee smelling and I'm more into sweet and skunky. It was a beast tho. Oh yea it threw n as niners and have heard of 2 seeds being found in the whole crop. Of 10 gg i hit about 8lbs. Monster plants I would 2 week veg. But I need the kill as and the gg look nice but no strong smell.
In the 1st pic u can see chiller res and manifold in the back. The buds are the gg. It taste nice and puny tho. It was one of the 2 least faves. The one I thought was gold leaf but was either gelato or mk ultra. A clone machine flipped the spray manifold and took out half my clones in the panic I got mixed up. There was lost cause that I kept. Very nice bud. Very dense. Dont get tall very bushy very strong branches. Only had 1 on there and cant tell u exactly what It yielded. I dont think its included in the 13-14 lb total. There was one i thought was lost cause but thinking it was banana kush. Was great. My favorite and no clones of it. Sux. The gold leaf was supreme just need to dial it in on the notes cuz it showing same burnish looking leaf when got it up to 150ppm first week. Maybe it's to low but I dont think so. The slh was fire but no clones cuz i thought the gold leaf was slh and didn't want the plant showing issues. All in all i was bummed out that the 2 there were the most of were my le as st favorite. I really just threw what clones survived the cloner fucking up in to give a test run and see how it ran before starting multiple systems. I feel like I'm prepared to handle them now though.
What nutrients are you using? Did you end up flushing them or running nutes all the way through? That pic of the finished bud looks so good I can taste it! Would love to toke up some time after I’m far along with my own process myself buddy!
 
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