Cannarado genetics
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nc208
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Yep. That's why I was saying the 41 seems to be the magic maker.Honestly You’re probably right, the different gelato cuts in the names confuse the fucking shit out of me. I guess that’s the cookie Fam for ya, and Gushers is a perfect example of that. They’re telling It was 41 crossed to South Florida Kush, and then it got changed to 41 x TK. Now Dandango Is saying it’s 41 crossed to Motorbreath 15, and I’m more inclined to believe Dan though because his timelines match up. He was doing a lot of crosses with the Motorbreath awhile back when he was still working and breeding at connected when they still got along with cookies. Not to mention he had mothers of Gushers, Gelatti, and TÖS(The Other Sister) when it was first popping off. TÖS looks very similar to them, and is supposed to be sisters according to him. I’d like to get my hands on a cut of it, for science
I'm running the 41 x grape mac right now. I also got 41 x dosidos which I'm hoping to find some fire in.
To be honest I find the gelato 33, 45 and 41 all seem to have kind of a "soapy" taste when smoking it though on their own. But makes fire in crosses.
40AmpstoFreedom
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I have 0 clue how it quoted you and not the person I was talking to that I could have swore I quoted. Some mistake or error happened sorry.
Don't take what I say personally growing is rough and always learning. When I make a statement like that it is to make sure as many people here in the mix read it so they know and it saves them heartache. When running say 20 females of cherry pie oriented stuff I would say about 5 total or so of 20 you will be culling (these are direct cherry pie crosses). You will probably get 1-3 females that even cutting off the bottom wont matter. Of those females that herm 1 or two will probably never grow back balls as a clone going forward and the others will be straight up trash can material like the girl you are talking about. There is just nothing you can do with them.
Cherry pie is in the Grape Pie which is in Sundae Driver. So even though it is tucked back there a bit in the gene pool...it's still there and you want it there because unfortunately if you get rid of it you throw the baby out with the bathwater (with current technology)....You deal with finding keepers in these seed lines because the things we all care about, taste, smell, and bag appeal are all top shelf level. I have said this for years on here and mag, Cherry Pie and crosses are the beautiful girl you keep around that treats you like shit. You gotta find the girl in the mix that treats you good and when you experience it, if you haven't, you completely understand putting up with sorting through and finding your keeper.
Another note is cherry pie is very light sensitive. It will definitely herm to light leaks. I have grown out a shit load of cherry work both my own and everyone worth buying from right now. I still will. Once you know how to deal with them its no big deal. Just be vigilant in the garden.
It's not that they are really different in major ways when it comes to these phenos. They are really nuances which I love. I am sorry but I fuckin hate bottle necked genes. IBL's are so boring. Sure if you want to attempt to grow commercially from seed (don't know why anyone would considering clones) have fun with a completely dumbed-down gene pool that is really only useful if no one is keeping clones. As for me I want a chance to find what I like. I want some variation and sometimes extreme variation.
One other thing for everyone to keep in mind as well. When you add TK to the mix you add a lot of variety. It shoots out a lot of phenos once you see a spread of 40-50 girls. They aren't extreme difference by any means but lots of nuanced. You can tell everything is related just like how we can tell all the different OG's are related from HPK, Malibu, Topanga, to SFV, Fire, Larry, and King Louis etc. You will see that genetic spread in TK s1's as well.
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Romulanman
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I'm so new to the seed game that I'm still not sure what I ultimately want to keep around. I have bought A LOT to test the waters of certain stuff that I've heard of but never tried. I will continue to get clones too. I might become more selective tho because I have the tendency to get greedy and try to buy all the strains lol.
This is what i have in my notes from doing gelato research about a year ago
25 = Guava
33 = Larry Bird??(unofficial nickname)
41 = Bacio
43 = Gello
45 = Barry Bonds??(unofficial nickname)
47 = Mochi
49 = Acai Berry
Ive smoked the 25,33,41,and 45
out of those I prefer the 25
I want to try the 49...heard it was the most sativa leaning one and im a sativa guy
25 = Guava
33 = Larry Bird??(unofficial nickname)
41 = Bacio
43 = Gello
45 = Barry Bonds??(unofficial nickname)
47 = Mochi
49 = Acai Berry
Ive smoked the 25,33,41,and 45
out of those I prefer the 25
I want to try the 49...heard it was the most sativa leaning one and im a sativa guy
Super_Glued_to_deathOG
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On his most recent post it says TÖS is 41 x MB15, where did you read gushers was 41 x MB15? I was under the impression that TÖS was sisters to BiscottiHonestly You’re probably right, the different gelato cuts in the names confuse the fucking shit out of me. I guess that’s the cookie Fam for ya, and Gushers is a perfect example of that. They’re telling It was 41 crossed to South Florida Kush, and then it got changed to 41 x TK. Now Dandango Is saying it’s 41 crossed to Motorbreath 15, and I’m more inclined to believe Dan though because his timelines match up. He was doing a lot of crosses with the Motorbreath awhile back when he was still working and breeding at connected when they still got along with cookies. Not to mention he had mothers of Gushers, Gelatti, and TÖS(The Other Sister) when it was first popping off. TÖS looks very similar to them, and is supposed to be sisters according to him. I’d like to get my hands on a cut of it, for science
Ok my bad i just read where he said that they are just different phenos my fault
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thenotsoesoteric
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Here are the two cuts I've got, both from purple city genetics.
Gelato 33, larry bird, more bulbous type but but still dense. Leaves will probably go purple by the end.
Gelato 47, mochi, more spear type buds, much less smell to her than 33.
Gelato 33, larry bird, more bulbous type but but still dense. Leaves will probably go purple by the end.
Gelato 47, mochi, more spear type buds, much less smell to her than 33.
Bodyne
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Got to sample some kurple recently, not a purple fan, but it was some good meds. Also some marathon og, was ok.
Nate Dogg
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All good man, the gelato pheno’s and the whole biscotti, gushers, gelatti, and the TÖS Debacle makes my head hurt sometimes. I just wish breeders and even growers like cookies, connected, and all the rest of them would just be honest instead of hiding their “secret sauce“ when all it is is TK or Motorbreath. Like seriously these cuts have been out for years now, just tell the people what the actual genetics are already. Alien labs has been pretty upfront and honest for the most part about what’s in the genetics of their new strains, I just wish more breeders and growers would be honest for us genetic nerds like me. It is what it is though, they can keep their secrets As long as someone keeps leaking their cuts I’m happyBecause once genetic testing get some more advancedThey won’t be able to hide their “secret sauce”. And people will finally know the truth. I meant to say biscotti in the original post, I think gelati is biscotti and gelato crossed. Like I’ve been saying though who knows.
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Nate Dogg
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Anyways here’s three of the sugar rush that are acclimating to mother nature. One looks like a serious mutant, so I had to have her. I’ll let my buddy pick the three that he wanted except the mutant, but I made sure that he understood that I want cuts off of each Different pheno. Mine will be grown outdoors all organically, his will be grown indoors all veganically. I’ll see if he’ll let me snap some pictures of his once they start their flip. Right now he’s just finishing up flower on House Margy, And she looks absolutely phenomenal. Kind of makes me sad that I gifted him those, but then again I never would’ve been able to run them. So I’m just glad he was Able to do it justice. She has a very strong Cookie dough funk with hints of lemon lime, and looks like her nugs are going to be dense as a rock. She also looked she’s going to yield extremely well for being a cookie dominant pheno. Almost reminds me of Some of the pictures I’ve seen of the OGKB remix from in-house but no purple, and she’s throwing out a lot of single and 3 bladed leaves Even during veg. I’ve got some rooting gel at one of my buddies house, so I’m gonna go down there and pick it up Friday and order some plugs as well.
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macsnax
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Just passing through and seeing all the gelato talk..... I can't speak for most of the phenos, but I've grown 41 pretty extensively. It's a badass cut, tight dense nuggets and breeds well. The thing I've noticed after running it for a while is it has such an amazing nose in flower, then once cured it still has that nose but it's almost like a generic version of the awesomeness she had. Kinda backwards from how a good cure works. Tried a few different cure methods to make sure it wasn't something I was doing lol. I still grow it and love the smoke too, just something I've noticed after spending some time with her.
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silverhazefiend
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I kno what u mean it loses that. Crazy gelato smell and has just some rank smell .. the 33 also is more bubbly looking .. the 41 is nug
The 33 is sweeter it has more gelato taste in a sense but they taste the same .. I did get a gelato once that had no purple zero and had more nose than the 41 or similar with more funk to the smell .. the nugs never got big tho I never figured that one out
nc208
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Have you tried doing Fresh Frozen with it to see if those crazy Terps stay?
macsnax
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I think 33 def has a yield advantage lol. 41 is a good plant, don't get me wrong. Just things you notice after some time. Did you not know which pheno it was you're speaking of at the end there?
macsnax
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No but I should. Fresh frozen and stored in the fridge could make a difference
silverhazefiend
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No I wish I’m in the heart of a good market so I’ll see things once if it’s rare and somethings I’ll see variation if it’s popular .. but sometimes I get things that most won’t see bc it was all purchased b4 it was fully dry and sometimes those growers change life paths and quit growing it happens a lot with the really good growers
Now I also see levels to this depending on how much you wanna spend .. I noticed unless you kno the right people + wanna spend top dollar you will not see the potential of some strains
Again I’m in a 85% light dep market so I see tons of gelato but only a handful will standout .. the one I’m talking about was light dep and still will outstink some indoors .. The best hint I have is it didn’t purple and that grapefruit gelato scent u get is muted it’s more gas ..
nc208
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It does. I pressed some of my fresh biscotti as it finished drying before it went into jars. 2 months later the rosin is more potent and stronger smelling than ever. The flower while still good lost alot of those Terps so definately it locks it in the quicker you do it so Fresh Frozen should keep those flavors your smelling during harvest.
Nate Dogg
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Damn she looks like 33 on steroids, awesome work man she’s absolutely stunning.This is my gelato 33 leaning phenos from in house genetics33rd degree,every pheno goes thc crazy, best bud I've smoked, ever