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waterproof808

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Shit, more bad news, very fucking bad news folks, new antibody drugs are required and new vaccines. Not quite square one for mRNA vaccines though, they would just modify the strand and package different mRNA strands in a liposome to produce multiple antibody responses. Testing and clinical trials take time and this is a moving target.


South African Covid variant appears to ‘obviate’ antibody drugs, Dr. Scott Gottlieb says

KEY POINTS
  • “The South Africa variant is very concerning right now because it does appear that it may obviate some of our medical countermeasures, particularly the antibody drugs,” Dr. Scott Gottlieb said.
  • The South African variant is also known as 501.V2, and in mid-December officials reported that 501.V2 had been largely replacing other strains of the coronavirus as early as November.
  • More than 17 million Covid doses have been distributed to states, but only 4.8 million Americans have received their first shot according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned that vaccinating Americans against Covid is more critical than ever, especially as the new South Africa variant appears to inhibit antibody drugs.

“The South Africa variant is very concerning right now because it does appear that it may obviate some of our medical countermeasures, particularly the antibody drugs,” said the former FDA chief in the Trump administration in an interview on CNBC’s “The News with Shepard Smith” on Tuesday evening. “Right now that strain does appear to be prevalent in South America and Brazil, the two parts of the world, right now, that are in their summer, but also experiencing a very dense epidemic, and that’s concerning.

The South African variant is also known as 501.V2, and in mid-December officials reported that 501.V2 had been largely replacing other strains of the coronavirus as early as November. South Africa has already sustained the more than 1.1 million COVID-19 cases and more than 30,000 deaths, the most on the African continent.
Gottlieb cited experimental evidence from Bloom Lab, and explained 501.V2 does appear to partially escape prior immunity. It means that some of the antibodies people produce when they get infected with Covid, as well as the antibody drugs, may not be quite as effective.

“The new variant has mutated a part of the spike protein that our antibodies bind to, to try to clear the virus itself, so this is concerning,” Gottlieb said. “Now, the vaccine can become a backstop against these variants really getting more of a foothold here in the United States, but we need to quicken the pace of vaccination.”

Operation Warp Speed’s director of supply production and distribution Ret. Lt. Gen. Paul Ostrowski told host Shepard Smith on Dec. 3 that everyone who wants a vaccine will be able to get one by June. Projections are currently falling short, however. More than 17 million Covid doses have been distributed to states, but only 4.8 million Americans have received their first shot according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Gottlieb suggested working through prioritized categories of people more quickly, expanding the number of vaccination sites, and stockpiling a smaller percentage of dosages in order to vaccinate more Americans.

“It really is a race against time trying to get more vaccine into people’s arms before these new variants become more prevalent here in the United States,” said Gottlieb.
Pfizer is reporting their vaccine appears to be effective against the South African variant but there will no doubt be more variants with the way things are going.
 

captainmorgan

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injinji

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More covid news from my neck of the woods. My niece and her family came from Denver for the holidays. Her husband and daughter left on the 27th, with niece and the boys staying another week. The daughter has been sick a few days now, and the 1st test came back negative. She continued to be sick, and 2nd test came back positive yesterday. It looks like after being stuck in the woods for a week, when my grandniece got back home, she hung out with all her friends, went to malls, traveled to see her grandparents, etc, etc. Now my sister's ex and his wife have it. He is having a rough time of it. Other family members are waiting on test to get back.

The wife and I are counting backwards and hoping we are in the clear. The wife has been really sick this week, but not straight covid symptoms.
 

hanimmal

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More covid news from my neck of the woods. My niece and her family came from Denver for the holidays. Her husband and daughter left on the 27th, with niece and the boys staying another week. The daughter has been sick a few days now, and the 1st test came back negative. She continued to be sick, and 2nd test came back positive yesterday. It looks like after being stuck in the woods for a week, when my grandniece got back home, she hung out with all her friends, went to malls, traveled to see her grandparents, etc, etc. Now my sister's ex and his wife have it. He is having a rough time of it. Other family members are waiting on test to get back.

The wife and I are counting backwards and hoping we are in the clear. The wife has been really sick this week, but not straight covid symptoms.
Good luck man.
 

hanimmal

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Got to wonder who wrote up that report.

I am not a fan of how Birx Macnamara'd numbers for Trump to confuse the public with, but her speculating to other researchers what may be causing the increased spread being selectively edited is just par for the course with Trump and his political trolls.
 

injinji

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The good news is that only 0.1% of cases the last couple three weeks are the UK variant. (1 in 1000) The bad news is the other 99.9% is normal covid, which is already kicking our ass. So when the new variant does take hold, we are fucked.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This is why Biden said he’s not holding back vaccines. This is bad news and I guarantee this variant is in Canada too and the reason for the spikes we’re seeing.

Our vaccine rollout has been a disgrace. I hope we get our shit together soon.
I believe everybody is gonna go with the half vaccine dose regime for a spell, exceptions for the fragile and very vulnerable perhaps. One dose prevents hospitalizations and serious outcomes in older and vulnerable people with medical conditions, they know who these at risk people are. I don't foresee any issue with people getting the second round late. It's getting vaccines in arms that is the issue in many places, as soon as logistical issues including primary supply are taken care of. I expect to see arena, mall, drive thru and pharmacy vaccine sites here in Canada over the next couple of months. The new Oxford adenovirus vaccine is quick and easy to produce and will be coming online here too.

Here in NS the age is 75 and over for the first go round, I turned 66 today, so I'll be waiting for a couple of months. Stay in if ya can, wear a mask, wash yer hands. Too many people are too casual about this shit, though public mask wearing compliance here is good
 
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