Will You Take The Vaccine?

[TacoMac]

Religion and racism go hand in hand. Your parents teach them to you.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Religion isn't something you're born with, or something that you can't do anything about, like color, sex, etc. It's just an idea. It's just a thought. That's it. And your thoughts are no more valuable, in terms of rights, than anyone else's. In which case, protecting religious beliefs is no different from protecting people that think the earth is flat, or that green hats raise IQ, or that smelling your farts is good luck. Religion has no business being a protected class. It cheapens the others by stuffing itself in with them.

That's your opinion, but it doesn't affect the reality that freedom of religion is a protected class. Freedom from religion is also protected however. No one is going to force you to participate in their religion, they only ask that you don't tread upon their religious beliefs.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Religion and racism go hand in hand. Your parents teach them to you.

Freedom of religion is protected by the US government and is a foundational cornerstone of the US Constitution. Racism is not. You don't like it? Change it. That's the great thing about democracy, "We The People"..

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Do I have to mask up anymore if I have been double vaccinated? My job wants me to but why should I ?

You said you were working in oncology with cancer patients and most are severely immune compromised and generally fucked by chemotherapy. It's a case of taking absolutely no risks with the patients you serve, even if the risks are minimal, it should be the same for long term health care facility workers who are vaccinated, those who refuse vaccination should be terminated.

 

[mooray]

That's your opinion, but it doesn't affect the reality that freedom of religion is a protected class. Freedom from religion is also protected however. No one is going to force you to participate in their religion, they only ask that you don't tread upon their religious beliefs.

Yeah it's just not a free pass to do whatever you want. Back in the "no shoes, no shirt, no service" days, which are still today btw, they tried religious exemption too, but since the nation is run by white christians, hypocrisy and narcissism prevail. Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Sure, if they want to get sued for illegal discrimination related to religious beliefs as protected by the US Constitution.

Constitution of the United States
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It basically says the government can't make a state religion like in many European countries, including the UK or stop you from practicing your religion (with in bounds). Old testament child sacrifice is prohibited for instance. Everything else is up for grabs including the government's right to tax churches. Not wearing a mask or refusing vaccination is not mentioned as a religious freedom. Much is assumed and has not been tested by the SCOTUS, state constitutions are subservient to the US constitution and it's interpretation by the SCOTUS.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Yeah it's just not a free pass to do whatever you want. Back in the "no shoes, no shirt, no service" days, which are still today btw, they tried religious exemption too, but since the nation is run by white christians, hypocrisy and narcissism prevail. Enjoy it while it lasts.

I have to laugh at these clowns crowing about religious freedom and not having to wear masks because of it. What would they do if people showed up at their protests naked (with masks on of course)? I mean masks have a public health value and save the lives of the innocent, yet there is no such imperative for wearing clothes, nudity never killed any one (unless they freeze to death). If people can't be forced to wear masks, they can't be forced to wear clothes! At least there's a logical reason to wear a face mask, and mostly a religious reasons to wear clothes or be forced to. Yep, just try to keep my naked ass out of your business, I've got rights!

 

[PJ Diaz]

Constitution of the United States
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It basically says the government can't make a state religion like in many European countries, including the UK or stop you from practicing your religion (with in bounds). Old testament child sacrifice is prohibited for instance. Everything else is up for grabs including the government's right to tax churches. Not wearing a mask or refusing vaccination is not mentioned as a religious freedom. Much is assumed and has not been tested by the SCOTUS, state constitutions are subservient to the US constitution and it's interpretation by the SCOTUS.

I wasn't referring to mask wearing. There are specific religions which reject vaccines as a core value. Christian Scientist is one of those. The US EEOC specifically protects employees from illegal employment discrimination, including discrimination based on religious beliefs.

3. Who is protected from employment discrimination?

FAQ #3: Who is protected from employment discrimination?

www.eeoc.gov

 

[CunningCanuk]

Would also like to point out there are few 'decent people' in the world, I'm certainly not a decent person.
(Always interesting to discuss who's 'decent' on a drug growing/taking forum)

Why would growing and smoking cannabis make you less decent?

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

You said you were working in oncology with cancer patients and most are severely immune compromised and generally fucked by chemotherapy. It's a case of taking absolutely no risks with the patients you serve, even if the risks are minimal, it should be the same for long term health care facility workers who are vaccinated, those who refuse vaccination should be terminated.

Who is going to replace 60% of the workforce? We are already short staffed. Once the unvaccinated start to go maskless indoors going to see some really bad shit. Then when they start dying all over the place a light bulb will go off in their empty heads and a huge uptick vaccinations will start again. Dumb shits

 

[Loves2smokeweed]

I Got mine as soon as they came out

 

[captainmorgan]

Fuck religion, they always try to force everyone else to live by their cult rules.

 

[hanimmal]

That's your opinion, but it doesn't affect the reality that freedom of religion is a protected class. Freedom from religion is also protected however. No one is going to force you to participate in their religion, they only ask that you don't tread upon their religious beliefs.

Tell that to kid me who got forced into having to attend others religious events.

The problem is mostly when religion is forced by these radicalized right wing political trolls onto our schools. And by repressing the rights and dehumanizing that they tend to have used against anyone not a straight male.

And the Republicans have used this as a platform to troll the Democrats with as being out to destroy religion.

It is not Democrats that are in any way stopping their ability to celebrate and practice their religions. Not using government property/funds to promote religions is what the western religious here in America mostly want to snowflake about.

Freedom of religion is protected by the US government and is a foundational cornerstone of the US Constitution. Racism is not. You don't like it? Change it. That's the great thing about democracy, "We The People"..

Racism is still protected, little nazi's can still go to town hall and have their little marches.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Tell that to kid me who got forced into having to attend others religious events.

The problem is mostly when religion is forced by these radicalized right wing political trolls onto our schools. And by repressing the rights and dehumanizing that they tend to have used against anyone not a straight male.

And the Republicans have used this as a platform to troll the Democrats with as being out to destroy religion.

It is not Democrats that are in any way stopping their ability to celebrate and practice their religions. Not using government property/funds to promote religions is what the western religious here in America mostly want to snowflake about.

Racism is still protected, little nazi's can still go to town hall and have their little marches.

That's pretty unfortunate that your parents didn't assert freedom from religion on your behalf. Maybe they didn't know their rights or maybe they were scared. Ether way your childhood experience sounds unfortunate.

No, freedom of racism isn't protected, but freedom or speech and freedom of assembly is. It's a subtlety different nuance, so I'm not surprised at your confusion.

Myself, I disagree with many religions, however I respect their right to their own personal beliefs.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I wasn't referring to mask wearing. There are specific religions which reject vaccines as a core value. Christian Scientist is one of those. The US EEOC specifically protects employees from illegal employment discrimination, including discrimination based on religious beliefs.

3. Who is protected from employment discrimination?

FAQ #3: Who is protected from employment discrimination?

www.eeoc.gov

That is law, not the constitution and law can be changed easily, the constitution not so much.

 

[Grandpapy]

I thought it was the Muslims that wanted to end "America".

 

[printer]

In today's paper employees are complaining that people are coming into the grocery store without masks and they are not forced to leave. They say that the stores remove people not wearing a shirt but giving them a pass on the mask. Just thought it was of some relevance. I wonder if I could fight a Human Rights complaint if I show up there without a shirt? Wearing cloths hurts me. While my body is nothing to look at now (reminds me of something I heard once. "I used to have the body of a Greek god when I was younger, now I have the body of some god damn Greek.) I think I should be decent enough in a pair of shorts and a pair of flip flops.

 

[printer]

I thought it was the Muslims that wanted to end "America".

No, just take it over.

 

[Budley Doright]

Do I have to mask up anymore if I have been double vaccinated? My job wants me to but why should I ?

So you don’t pass the virus to others as you can still carry and infect would be my guess. That was a rhetorical question ......... face palm .

 

[hanimmal]

That's pretty unfortunate that your parents didn't assert freedom from religion on your behalf. Maybe they didn't know their rights or maybe they were scared. Ether way your childhood experience sounds unfortunate.

No, freedom of racism isn't protected, but freedom or speech and freedom of assembly is. It's a subtlety different nuance, so I'm not surprised at your confusion.

Myself, I disagree with many religions, however I respect their right to their own personal beliefs.

I guess it is so subtly different that it really stopped mattering at some point.

And my childhood was fine, not really any different from any other kids. It was from family that the religion got forced. Outside of the abuse that too many kids went through due to adults claiming religious exemptions, it shouldn't be taught in our schools or funded by our government.