Another rant on early flower outside

DrOgkush

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What's up everyone reading. I hope everyone's 21 season has been more than expected. Iv noticed the bull shit genetics kinda filtering it's way out. An d also noticed a while lot of complaints on there ladies flowering to early outdoors. Myself being one of the people

Now with my issue I placed my ladies from 18-6 to outside transplant to about a drastic 12 hours which we all know triggers her hormones to respond yada yada so I already understand a couple of weeks of flower. But however. A few of my girls just plain out are confused still flowering but very airy. (very very frosty)

So my question is. Should I start showing more beans to add for loss or will I be worth it to shoot for re veg. The genetics an phenos of a few are outrageous and I really wanted to mother one of em due to the high resin an low leave to cylax

I run some phones of today current.

But the strains running are sour kush, 3 diffrent phenos 2 flowering
Premium jack, 2 phenos 1 flowering)
1 ducksfoot flowering
1 Hindu
3 cheese
1 amnesia
1 killer ace og
1 kush mints
 

DrOgkush

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I placed outside around mid April. Mybad if I forgot to mention that part. And southern cal.
Also. Several months. Wow. Nice veg time for you I'm guessing. I usually harvest around September October here. So usually around July to August I normally see flowering begin
 

Chief_Broom

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Typically speaking in the US any mature plant (meaning it’s been growing from seed for about 6weeks or more) will start flowering if you put it outside before the middle of May. Plenty of people put plants outside earlier than mid-May but they will also shine a light on those plants for a few hours starting at evening twilight. This holds the plants in veg. Then around the beginning of June you can ditch the extra light because the days will be sufficiently long enough to do it for you.
 

DrOgkush

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More or less my question is should I continue to re veg or not. Or should I just sow more seeds and throw out more clones
 

xtsho

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Some plants will just stay in a state of semi flowering if they get triggered too early. I've had plants that never revegged and just stayed in a stalled state of flowering and not doing much. It's probably not a bad idea to start a few more plants.
 

injinji

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More or less my question is should I continue to re veg or not. Or should I just sow more seeds and throw out more clones
Both. Reveg and start a few more seeds. In the future gradually decrease light hours to match natural time before going outside. And if you have power at your site, you can run a few lights for two hours at midnight. Length of the dark period is what triggers plants to flower, so by breaking up the night the plant thinks it's summertime. You can do this to make sure your reveg chances are good on your current plants. And for your full season plants next year.

I'm at 13 hours 44 minutes length of day, and one of my young plants started flowering this week. And I still have one spring crop plant out, and it isn't showing white hairs yet (the first sign of reveg).
 

DrOgkush

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I had both in mind as well. Supplementale lighting is in the works. I have few indicas that are said in way flowering it is. The rest are happy in veg. I'll post pics when I get back in town
 

john wishmyer

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I had 2 that started budding and i chopped a GSC they were stuck in a state a flower, im also in southern cal and just have a light that gives 2 extra hours of light each night im slowly cutting back, although i had a clone of one of the ones in vegg and it transitioned so smooth to outside no flower what so ever.. its in a 10 gallon fabric its kind of exploding the mother it came from is the first couple of pics, im praying for flower it would fuck up my entire grow, I want to get a 5 footer
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Kinch

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As an experiment, I put two clones from an indoor winter grow outside on March 18 (as soon as we had 12 hours of daylight in NorCal). I gave no supplemental light. Today we have 14 hours, 30 minutes, but both clones are clearly budding (see pic) and the fan leaves appear dark green with deformations I associate with the reveg process.

So, there you have one more data point suggesting that putting plants out too early can lead to hormonal confusion for the plant. I'm going to keep an eye on them to see how the hormone levels adjust to lengthening days of summer.

-Kinch
 

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john wishmyer

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As an experiment, I put two clones from an indoor winter grow outside on March 18 (as soon as we had 12 hours of daylight in NorCal). I gave no supplemental light. Today we have 14 hours, 30 minutes, but both clones are clearly budding (see pic) and the fan leaves appear dark green with deformations I associate with the reveg process.

So, there you have one more data point suggesting that putting plants out too early can lead to hormonal confusion for the plant. I'm going to keep an eye on them to see how the hormone levels adjust to lengthening days of summer.

-Kinch
damn see thats wxactly what ive been trying to avoid, i had two cuts off my cherry pie, i transplanted both into their final homes one is trying to flower while the other is booming in vegetative growth, im at 14:02 of light and just put both of my from seed plants outside to start their long vegg, i started both of them in December, both extremely healthy n vigorous im just hoping they dont flower on this transition
 

DrOgkush

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Non of mine have fully re vegged from my stunt. But I'll say. 3 seem like they'll snapp out of it fully but from my eyes. I can't see it looking like a normal veg plant ever again. But my fingers are crossed because on my end. It was all a big mistake. No experiment
 
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