My message to the Trump cult: It makes perfect sense that Biden got the most votes in the history of American elections.

Dryxi

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The margins in Georgia are so tight that Donald can fuck them easily by keeping his base home, just 1 or 2% make the difference and there are more than 2% mentally unstable among the republicans than that. Their weakness is 80% of them believe absurdities and that means anybody can bullshit them, since they are eager to believe anything but the truth. Demographic changes and organized get out the vote will make the difference, along with voter suppression by closing polling places. The old south is colliding head on with the new south, we will see what the wreckage yields. I'm sure all the death threats to elected officials and outrage impressed many voters in the middle, as did Donald's post election antics. The republicans have their soft support too and they are targets.
And the 3rd party voters (conservative 3rd party) that made the run offs possible? Do we assume they will change course to vote in a blue Senate?

We def can agree to disagree. We will have to see. I think your at least a few years in the future before the state goes full blue
 

DIY-HP-LED

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And the 3rd party voters (conservative 3rd party) that made the run offs possible? Do we assume they will change course to vote in a blue Senate?

We def can agree to disagree. We will have to see. I think your at least a few years in the future before the state goes full blue
Gerrymandered states go blue with federal senators and governors first, the senate is tight in Georgia and the governors race was basically stolen from Stacy Abrams in 2018. Next year all the red state legislatures will double down on voter suppression and every one of them will pass anti democratic voting laws.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Loeffler disavows photo taken with longtime white supremacist (ajc.com)

Loeffler disavows photo taken with longtime white supremacist
U.S. Sen. Kelly Loeffler’s campaign strongly condemned a photo circulating on social media of her posing with a longtime white supremacist at an event in Dawsonville on Friday, as the photo sparked fierce criticism from her Democratic opponent and his allies ahead of Jan. 5 runoffs for control of the Senate.

The photo shows the Republican smiling from beneath an American flag ball cap next to Chester Doles, a longtime white supremacist who spent decades in the Ku Klux Klan and the neo-Nazi National Alliance. He was sentenced to prison for the 1993 beating of a Black man in Maryland and again on weapons violations in Georgia. He also associated with the Hammerskins, a racist skinhead gang with whom he marched in 2017′s violent United the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

“Kelly had no idea who that was, and if she had she would have kicked him out immediately because we condemn in the most vociferous terms everything that he stands for,” Stephen Lawson, Loeffler’s campaign spokesman, said in a statement Sunday to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Doles posted the picture to his account on VK, a Russian social networking site where he has posted pictures of himself posing with other Georgia politicians, including Republican Congresswoman-elect Marjorie Taylor Greene and Trump-friendly Democratic state Rep. Vernon Jones. Within a few hours, the Loeffler photo had spread to Twitter.
“ALERT: Kelly Loeffler just posed for a photo with Chester Doles, a former KKK leader who runs the white supremacist American Patriots USA,” the Twitter account for progressive Jewish group Bend the Arc posted. “This is who @KLoeffler is proudly appealing to.”

ALERT: Kelly Loeffler just posed for a photo with Chester Doles, a former KKK leader who runs the white supremacist American Patriots USA.
In 1993, Doles nearly beat a Black man to death.
In 2017, he marched in Charlottesville.
This is who @KLoeffler is proudly appealing to.
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DIY-HP-LED

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Now don't all you sox, proud boys, morons, crazies and Trumpers in general feel bad about slandering these companies? I'll bet you must feel guilty and ashamed about being such suckers and fools? But that would take character and personal integrity and I have never seen a Trump supporter here with a shred of it, or even the basic courage to apologize for committing a wrong, or making a mistake, or betraying the constitution and your country. Or admitting Trump is a corrupt traitor who never was fit to walk the streets free, much less to be POTUS.
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Voting Machine Companies Threaten Right-Wing Media Companies With Legal Action | Deadline | MSNBC

New York Times media columnist Ben Smith discusses his reporting on voting machine companies Smartmatic and Dominion threatening conservative media companies with defamation lawsuits, causing some shows to conduct damage control.
 

FredH

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1. There is more people in America than ever before.
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2. Biden was running as a politically middle of the road white man with a long career in public service (aka not a minority or a woman) and zero scandals.

But what he ran as is not what he is, so he made fools of the dupes. He had many scandals, look at his previous runs for president and his bribing Ukraine to fire a prosecutor to keep his son out of trouble, how about his sons laptop? He was only scandal free to airheads.

It is not rocket science.

Toss in that Trump is arguably the worst POTUS in history and a puppet for Putin and any other dictator that bribed him, and you get the biggest voter turnout ever for the candidate running against Trump.

You are a liar without question.

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hanimmal

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Im sure this is already somewhere, but it is just fascinating to see the people who are so stuck in the mud with their beliefs about Trump.

The ability to not actually consider that (they believe) somehow Trump was able to overcome the 'deep state' or whatever to win the house, senate and presidency in 2016, but screwed up having all the power in DC in 2018 by losing the house, and again losing the house plus the senate and presidency in 2020.

Just amazing how much they dismiss reality.
 

hanimmal

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One week after Joe Biden was sworn in as President One America News (OAN) aired a segment featuring a man they introduced as an "expert mathematician" who claimed to have uncovered evidence of election rigging and that Donald Trump actually won re-election. That man, according to a lawsuit filed by Dominion Voting Systems Tuesday against the far right wing media outlet, is not an expert mathematician, but a swing set installer and convicted drug dealer.

Back on January 27 OAN hosted Ed Solomon, "who claimed to have found evidence within precinct-level reporting that the election was rigged by an algorithm," VICE reports. "The basis of Solomon's claim is that he found several precincts throughout the country reporting exactly the same results at various times throughout the vote tabulation process."

OAN host Christina Bobb asked Solomon what the statistical probability of such an occurrence might be.

"You can use the binomial probability formula, and the chance of that event happening is one over ten to an exponent so large there's not enough stars in the universe—there's not enough atoms in the universe to explain the number. It can't happen naturally," Solomon replied.

VICE adds that Dominion's lawsuit against OAN includes "knowingly reporting defamatory claims against the company in the wake of Trump's loss. In fact, according to the lawsuit, Solomon is a convicted drug dealer and 'was working as an 'installer' at a swing set construction company in Long Island' at the time of the interview."

The same day that segment aired, Media Matters reported "OAN keeps pushing conspiracy theory that computer programs changed votes in the 2020 election."

In February FactCheck.org published a report debunking the Solomon segment, calling it "baseless."
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In a document on Scribd making similar allegations of fraud in Pennsylvania, he claims to “have devoted my life to the study of numbers, fractions and ratios, and have written academic materials on the subject.”

According to his social media profiles, Solomon has been associated with Stony Brook University. A university spokesperson told us that he attended classes as a math major for various terms between 2008 and 2015, but did not get a degree.

Solomon did not respond to emails or Facebook messages asking for his credentials, and where exactly he got his data.

Solomon maintains a YouTube channel where he has posted many videos purporting to prove election fraud. Among his older videos, too, are calls that he made to the radio show of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. In one, Solomon allegedthat the gunman in the fatal 2013 shooting at the Washington Navy Yard had been identified online before the shooting even took place.

As we said, we don’t know where Solomon got the data that he showed in the OAN clip. It didn’t come from Edison Research, which provides vote tabulation data to the media, the firm told us. And it doesn’t match the data available from Georgia’s Secretary of State. But even if it is an accurate snapshot of precinct-level vote entries on election night, it doesn’t prove that there was fraud committed by an algorithm, experts say.

“That several precincts would show exactly the same vote shares at different times is not at all surprising,” said Philip Stark, associate dean of the division of mathematical and physical sciences at the University of California, Berkeley. Stark also serves on the U.S. Election Assistance Commission Board of Advisors.

Noting that it was hard to fully assess Solomon’s claims because the origins of the data aren’t clear, Stark said in an email that precincts showing the same vote shares would be even more expected by incorporating multiple snapshots of time (as Solomon does). How polarized or close to evenly split an area is could also affect the chances of that occurring, he said.

For instance, Fulton County, which includes Atlanta, leans Democratic and in the OAN video Solomon cited a number of precincts that skew heavily Democratic. In our review of those precincts’ final election results, the 2020 vote shares were not markedly different from those in the 2016 presidential election. While the split was similar, Trump actually fared a little better in 2020 in many of those precincts.

In precinct 10J, for example, Hillary Clinton earned about 96% of the total vote in 2016 compared to Trump’s 3%. In 2020, President Joe Biden received 94% of the vote in that precinct while Trump received 5%.

“It seems like [Solomon] may have sifted through the early Fulton County data … and picked out entries that have the proportion ‘pattern’ [he] dreamed up, using teensy numbers that are utterly inconsequential,” Charleen Adams, a research fellow at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health who has written about the misleading use of statistics in election fraud claims, told us by email.

There are other problems with the claim, too.

Gabriel Sterling, Georgia’s voting systems manager, said in a phone interview that Solomon’s claim “shows a basic misunderstanding of how vote counts work.”

In order for an algorithm to tamper with votes, he said, it would have to access both the election management system (EMS), which tabulates the votes, and the election night reporting system (ENR), which publishes the results.

The EMS is not connected to the internet, Sterling said. So there would be no way for a computer running a nefarious algorithm to reach it.

Ryan Macias, former acting director of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s Voting System Testing and Certification Program, also pointed out in a phone interview that Georgia’s audit — which included a hand tally of the paper ballots — and recount further disprove the claim that an algorithm was used to steal the election for Biden. The counts ultimately confirmed the originally reported election outcome.

“That is the verification that the system is correct,” Macias said.

Stark agreed that the audit undermined the theory of an algorithm manipulating the votes. He was one of dozens of experts who signed a letter in November saying that there was no substantial evidence put forward to support the allegation that the 2020 election had been rigged.

That said, Stark said he and other experts do have actual security concerns, and election systems — including in Georgia — can be improved to engender more confidence in the process. (For example, he advocates that hand-marked ballots be used in place of the touchscreen tablets, or ballot-marking devices, that print out a voter’s selection on a paper with a barcode that is then scanned for counting. Ballot-marking devices should be reserved for voters who need that assistance, he contends.)

However, those concerns are not unique to the 2020 election, he said, and they are not the same as baseless claims that algorithms were used to commit massive, wide-scale fraud.

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook to debunk misinformation shared on social media. Our previous stories can be found here.
 

CatHedral

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lol fair enough, maybe he is a great mathematician, but it doesn't mean that his job gives him access to accurate data of the election to make ridiculous claims like OANN amplified.
I do wonder how well his swings work. I cant quite put my finger on it but
 

hanimmal

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https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-rally-flop/
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According to a report from the Salt Lake Tribune, a two-day pro-Donald Trump event that commenced at the Salt Palace Convention Center was filled with more empty chairs than attendees on its first day.

The promoters behind the Western Conservative Action Network, or WeCANact event, that promised former White House official Michael Flynn as a headliner, had boasted that they expected 10,000 participants, but the Tribune reported that about 1000 showed up to hear about the fight against, "socialist, communist, and Marxist ideologies" in government and schools.

According to the Tribune's report, "The event did focus on that promise, but also offered up a large helping of misinformation about COVID-19, vaccines and the 2020 election. And, to top off the fringe political buffet, there were lots of references to the QAnon conspiracy theory."

To make the point about the small turnout, the Tribune included a photo from the hall showing row upon row upon row of empty seats.

As for what the few who showed up heard, the Tribune's Bryann Schott wrote: "The falsehoods and half-truths flew fast and furious Friday. A favorite target for speakers was the COVID-19 pandemic and any protective measures taken to stop the spread of the virus that has killed more than 720,000 Americans," he wrote before adding, "Other speakers spent time promoting unproven alternative cures for the virus."

Schott added, "More than a few speakers referred to anything they viewed as the enemy as communist or Marxist. Leigh Dundas, who cheered on the crowd who attacked Congress during the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, warned the crowd that a plot launched by former Soviet Premier Nikita Kruschev to replace the U.S. government with a communist dictatorship was coming to fruition."

"This is how a communist totalitarian takeover starts. They make divorce easy. They want to normalize deviant sexual practices. They want to get rid of obscenity laws and frame anyone who opposes that as against free speech. They want to get rid of prayer in schools," Dundas told the small crowd.

You can read more here.
 

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