I'm in the weeds

[Notanist]

So, I basically have a black thumb, but a real desire to grow. I bought a tent kit and started my first 2 seeds about a month ago. I am having problems controlling the temp (too high) and humidity (too low). I am on a 18 hour light on, and 6 hours off. My little plants have not grown at all in the last few weeks and the leaves are tipping downward and the leaf color is not right. I don't know if I am watering enough or too much. Overthinking can be a recipe for disaster so I thought I would join up and see if folks more experienced than me could offer up some tips. The seeds are feminized skunk, using coco coir, watering every few days with distilled water and have not used any nutrients yet. The seedlings are about 25 inches away from my LED light.

 

[newbuddy]

My vote is too much water

 

[nanners1]

wait... how many weeks since they sprouted? why aren't you feeding yet? im no expert, but I believe you should have already started feeding.

but prob there are other people with better insight.

 

[Lowkeygardener]

Bro… honestly beginners shouldn’t run any medium except soil in my opinion. Coco and hydro are wayyy more involved

 

[Notanist]

The top inch is really dry every 2 days so I water again. Perhaps I should double that time? They are about a month old but they sure aren't growing much. What would you suggest I feed them with? I have 3 bottles of general hydroponics (Flora micro, gro and bloom).

 

[Notanist]

Bro… honestly beginners shouldn’t run any medium except soil in my opinion. Coco and hydro are wayyy more involved

I have a big bag of Fox Farms Happy Frog but was going to wait and use that when they got replanted. At this rate, that might not happen.

 

[nanners1]

I run 20-10-20 peters in peat and vermiculite, started feeding the day after the cotyledons came out, with a very light 200 ppm (way less than 1 EC) and then i turned it up to 1.3 EC which i plan to stay at for the whole grow. but im barely on week 2, but my plants are already much bigger.

 

[nanners1]

Bro… honestly beginners shouldn’t run any medium except soil in my opinion. Coco and hydro are wayyy more involved

I actually agree with this, i wish i had gone organic for various reasons, but im following bugbee blindly to have some sort of assurance... hopefully it will work for me

 

[Notanist]

I run 20-10-20 peters in peat and vermiculite, started feeding the day after the cotyledons came out, with a very light 200 ppm (way less than 1 EC) and then i turned it up to 1.3 EC which i plan to stay at for the whole grow. but im barely on week 2, but my plants are already much bigger.

Well, if worse comes to worse, at least I have more seeds. The only room I can keep the tent in never cools off. The temp frequently gets around 90 degrees. The humidity won't get above 38% so I put a humidifier in there and now it gets too high, around 70%. Just glad I only started with 2 seeds since trial and error is whipping my butt.

 

[nanners1]

Well, if worse comes to worse, at least I have more seeds. The only room I can keep the tent in never cools off. The temp frequently gets around 90 degrees. The humidity won't get above 38% so I put a humidifier in there and now it gets too high, around 70%. Just glad I only started with 2 seeds since trial and error is whipping my butt.

do you have a an inline fan or exhaust? if you are not running with a carbon filter you can get a 30 dollar RAXIAL infinity and it will help you a lot, if you are running a carbon filter you will need a more powerful vent. but an exhaust on top (to suck hot air) and an inline on the bottom (to draw cold air in) will prob help a lot controlling that.

I would start feeding those poor little bastards, see what happens. dont go to crazy on nutes, and whatever your bottle says,cut it in half (those bastards tell you to put a lot of nutrients just to flush)

Hopefully some1 else can chip in with more know

 

[Notanist]

I have an exhaust going to a carbon filter and there is a fan and humidifier in the tent. Here is a pic of the setup.

 

[nanners1]

I have an exhaust going to a carbon filter and there is a fan and humidifier in the tent. Here is a pic of the setup. View attachment 4950583

so i dont run a carbon filter, but are you sure that is set up right? it was my understanding that the carbon filter is supposed to go inside and be the one that sucks the air and push out the "clean" air ... otherwise something would go wrong.. but I dont run a carbon filter so I never cared to learn about it. ------ but maybe that doesnt even matter for temps... how hot is outside?

Actually... if you have the filter at the end, and that vent is not being able to push hot air out of the tent properly, that would def have to impact your temperatures wouldnt it?.. it looks like you have to fix that carbon filter setup (as well as start feeding).

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[Soul Dwella]

From what I understand coco has no nutrients and should be feeding from the start. IMO easiest thing for you to do now is transplant them into that happy frog. Or start over from scratch if they're autos..

 

[Soul Dwella]

I have an exhaust going to a carbon filter and there is a fan and humidifier in the tent. Here is a pic of the setup. View attachment 4950583

this looks fine, assuming the fan is blowing out of tent into the filter....you have a passive intake open on the side opposite the filter?

 

[Autodoctor]

Don’t even now where to become. But need to start over. Need to keep temps under 85 even if u have to leave tent door open. Light needs to be like 40 inches away from seedlings if can’t dim. Plants should be this size if auto flower in about 20 days

 

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Coco is not soil and cannot be treated as such.
I would recommend starting over in soil and reading some basics about how to grow.

If you want to stick with coco and be hyper involved with your plant on a daily basis multiple times a day every fucking day, while you learn on the fly?
Check this out...

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Still tons of useful info on this site even if you elect to go to soil.

 

[Notanist]

this looks fine, assuming the fan is blowing out of tent into the filter....you have a passive intake open on the side opposite the filter?

It is blowing the air into the CF. Not sure I understand what you mean by having a passive intake open on the side opposite the filter. I have everything else sealed off so no light breaks up the light cycle.

 

[Notanist]

From what I understand coco has no nutrients and should be feeding from the start. IMO easiest thing for you to do now is transplant them into that happy frog. Or start over from scratch if they're autos..

They are not auto flowering. I forgot to mention that they were started inside of a plant plug that is surrounded by the coco coir. Don't know if that makes a difference or not.

 

[Notanist]

Don’t even now where to become. But need to start over. Need to keep temps under 85 even if u have to leave tent door open. Light needs to be like 40 inches away from seedlings if can’t dim. Plants should be this size if auto flower in about 20 daysView attachment 4950591

Wow, looks like my plants are really behind the curve for growth development. Maybe starting over is the best way to go. I should definitely move the tent to another room. Wanted to keep things in a secure area considering I live in Texas but this room is just not helping the situation at all.

 

[DrOgkush]

Start over. Use that happy frog soil. Spout your seeds in it and water only when dry. Start feeding around 2-3 weeks of after 5th node. Works every time for beginners. Simple.

I'd suggest using solo cups to sprout. Transplant your way up. Just manage your watering correctly and do not over use your nutes.