Ron DeSantis isn't Donald Trump -- he's Donald Trump Jr.

hanimmal

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Biden executive order has instructed agencies to create their own Final Rulings, or laws and revise, suspend and rescind whatever they please.

USDA has directed schools to revise school sports programs and other things to receive Federal SNAP funding.

I drew it in crayon for you.
And yet there was nothing in that about taking away funding. You can keep on trolling for the hate mongers, but what you are saying is just flat out false.

Rescinding the attack on kids that DeSantis and the other Regressive Republican governors are attempting on these schools has nothing to do with their funding. They are just pretending like it is to try to trick their cult into believing that somehow it is Biden that is hurting these kids and not them. And that is a lie.

They are attacking school kids who just want to hang out and play with their friends, and because enough of the bigoted Republicans have bought into the hate mongering, they know it is likely to help them win a primary when all they need is about 23% of the Republican vote.

Just because they could do it, doesn't mean that Biden is going to act in a similar manner to the fascist actions that DeSantis has pulled, and the fact that he has not and you can't find anything where they threatened funding is proof of that.

But you are a disingenuous troll, so I am sure you will just keep on selling your lies.
And you are championing the fraudulent "research" of:

Alfred C. Kinsey whose data was collected from sex offenders and child molesters in prison and not data collected from diverse, everyday Americans; whose book "Sexual Behavior and the Human Male" contains table 34 which documents sexual experiments on young children and babies.

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John Money who coined the terms "gender role" and "gender identity" and theorized babies are "gender neutral at birth" and that environment is what determines weather someone is man or woman and not biology. Notice how even he, the founder of gender theory conflated gender and sex in this way. He hypothised a boy could be raised as a girl and do just fine and vice-versa.

To test this theory Money used the Reimer twins of which one named Bruce accidentally had his dick burned off in a botched circumcision at 8 months old. He convinced his parents to raise Bruce as a girl and his brother as a boy under his guidance. Money conducted sexual experiments on the siblings including having them perform on each other. The results were a complete disaster. Bruce never accepted his female identity and went back to a male named David after his parents told him the truth. As an adult David spoke out about the abuse done to him and his family by John Money. David committed suicide and his brother overdosed.

John Money fraudulently reported this research as a complete success. While most would think Money went to prison when the fraud was exposed here we are discussing his great work for some odd reason.



You all really are into some sick shit.

Trying to use this kind of stuff as cannon fodder for the right wing loons is just par for the course though.

Literally noone cares how an adult identifies, what surgeries they want to have,, who they bang or what their food stamp balance is.

Literally noone cares about high school seniors learning what AIDS is either.

Except in sports. That kind of crosses the line. Because the "tyranny of biology" is very real on the football field, an MMA ring and a swimming pool.

But Biden has to specifically inject this into K-12 schools and universities in the form of sports, bathrooms and locker rooms. And the SNAP program has his back as I documented as anyone with a functioning brain can see because the only function of SNAP in school is to provide funding for food you absolute mental giants.
Biden said that these kids should not have to be in fear because of the bigotry that you are championing. And he said nothing about SNAP, that is all on the propagandist right wing hate mongers shilling for their fascist state leaders (like DeSantis).
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
lol
John Money taught at my university.
The Jesus Taliban hated him then too.

“Biological male/female” is the latest bigoted dog whistle.

What your Reimer anecdote glosses over as unimportant is that Reimer was not consulted regarding the reassignment. This means the example is ridiculously inapt when today’s gender-dysphoric youngsters self-identify, and become voluntary participants in their corrective reconstruction.

The toxics would harm voluntary sex reassignment. They are visibly working against birth control. The endpoint is undiluted sharia.

(edit) I am finding no indication that the term “gender dysphoria” is controversial anong the not Godblind. Anyone?

anyone?

Bueller?
 
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ActionianJacksonian

Well-Known Member
lol
John Money taught at my university.
The Jesus Taliban hated him then too.

“Biological male/female” is the latest bigoted dog whistle.

What your Reimer anecdote glosses over as unimportant is that Reimer was not consulted regarding the reassignment. This means the example is ridiculously inapt when today’s gender-dysphoric youngsters self-identify, and become voluntary participants in their corrective reconstruction.

The toxics would harm voluntary sex reassignment. They are visibly working against birth control. The endpoint is undiluted sharia.
And yet Reimer ended up with a propensity for suicide. What a coincidence. Another mysterious coincidence is that all papers confirming reassignment for kids improving mental health have been retracted or otherwise edited.

Another coincidence is Planned Parenthood is also funded for experimental trans treatments.

And yet another is that the drug Lupron was used to chemically castrate sex offenders and is now used as a "puberty blocker".

Some kids think they are Pirates. We should reaffirm them by removing an eyeball, a leg, a hand and subsequently replace them with an eyepatch, peg and hook.

And of course, since biology is tyranny and the latest KKK dog whistle we should let the male patriarchy lower school girls places on podiums in their disciplined sports and cheat them of their records and scholarships. Or maybe they just genuinely care about girls, because now you are squarely in Q territory.

If not, well then the SNAP program is going to do something about it. Of course SNAP can only do 2 things: provide or deny funding.
 
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ActionianJacksonian

Well-Known Member
lol
John Money taught at my university.
The Jesus Taliban hated him then too.

“Biological male/female” is the latest bigoted dog whistle.

What your Reimer anecdote glosses over as unimportant is that Reimer was not consulted regarding the reassignment. This means the example is ridiculously inapt when today’s gender-dysphoric youngsters self-identify, and become voluntary participants in their corrective reconstruction.

The toxics would harm voluntary sex reassignment. They are visibly working against birth control. The endpoint is undiluted sharia.
Might want to be careful throwing that "gender dysphoria" term around since you're on team blue. They don't like it. This is a tell that you are a recent convert.
 
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hanimmal

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So DeSantis' trolls are out trying to sell this as some kind of attack on Biden when down in Desantistan the Republicans passed a law that breaks their state's constitution. And then fired a democratically elected prosecutor who signed a letter along with 90 others that they would not people for seeking, providing or supporting abortions.

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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis suspended the elected state prosecutor of Tampa on Thursday for pledging not to enforce the state’s new 15-week abortion ban and for supporting gender transition treatments for minors.

The Republican governor announced the suspension of Hillsborough County State Attorney Andrew Warren at a news conference in the county’s sheriff’s office.

“When you flagrantly violate your oath of office, when you make yourself above the law, you have violated your duty, you have neglected your duty and you are displaying a lack of competence to be able to perform those duties,” DeSantis said to cheers.

The suspension comes as DeSantis runs for reelection in Florida and builds his national profile as a potential 2024 Republican presidential candidate through near constant criticism of liberal policies on abortion, policing and other culture war issues.

Warren, a Democrat, was elected as state attorney by Hillsborough County voters in 2016 and in 2020. In a statement, Warren said “the people have the right to elect their own leaders — not have them dictated by an aspiring presidential candidate who has shown time and again he feels accountable to no one.”

“The governor is trying to overthrow the results of a fair and free election, two of them actually,” he said later Thursday at a news conference. “People need to understand. This isn’t the governor trying to suspend one elected official. This is the governor trying to overthrow democracy here in Hillsborough County.”

Warren added that no cases regarding violations of the state’s new abortion law have been brought to his office.

In an executive order formally suspending Warren, DeSantis focused heavily on Warren’s signing of statements where prosecutors from across the country said they won’t use their offices to pursue criminal cases against seekers or providers of abortion or gender transition treatments.

More than 90 district attorneys, state attorneys general and other elected prosecutors across the U.S. have signed the letter saying they don’t intend to prosecute people for seeking, providing or supporting abortions.

Some are in states with few or no restrictions on abortions. But others are in law enforcement in places where there are bans or deep restrictions – including the counties that include Birmingham, Alabama, and Jackson, Mississippi, along with several of Texas’ biggest cities. In some cases, there might not be much to enforce because many clinics have either stopped offering abortions or have closed entirely.

Besides the statements from prosecutors, city councils in places including Nashville, New Orleans and Boise, Idaho, have introduced or adopted measures telling law enforcement agencies to make abortion-related cases low priorities.

Florida’s new abortion restriction became effective July 1. It prohibits abortions after 15 weeks, with exceptions if the procedure is necessary to save the pregnant woman’s life, prevent serious injury or if the fetus has a fatal abnormality. It does not allow exemptions in cases where pregnancies were caused by rape, incest or human trafficking.

Violators could face up to five years in prison. Physicians and other medical professionals could lose their licenses and face administrative fines of $10,000 for each violation.

Florida has not enacted laws criminalizing gender transition treatments for minors but “these statements prove that Warren thinks he has the authority to defy the Florida Legislature and nullify in his jurisdiction criminal laws with which he disagrees,” the executive order reads.

The executive order also accuses Warren of having a “flawed and lawless understanding of his duties as a state attorney” in his “presumptive non-enforcement for certain criminal violations, including trespassing at a business location, disorderly conduct, disorderly intoxication, and prostitution.”

“The governor’s suspension of State Attorney Warren is not political to me. It’s about law and order. It’s about ensuring our loved ones are safe. It’s about the victims and their voices,” said Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister. He said Warren has been acting as a kind of “supreme authority by reducing charges, dropping cases and singlehandedly determining what crimes will be legal or illegal in our county.”

Asked whether he’s overriding the will of the voters by suspending their choice for prosecutor, DeSantis said Warren’s conduct has fallen “below the standard of the Florida Constitution” and that he’s neglected his duty to state law.

“I don’t think the people of Hillsborough County want to have an agenda that is basically woke, where you’re deciding that your view of social justice means certain laws shouldn’t be enforced,” the governor said.

Rep. Fentrice Driskell, a Tampa Democrat and leader-designate of the Florida House Democratic Caucus, said Warren has been using his prosecutorial discretion appropriately.

“I’m not going to mince words: this is a shocking political attack on an elected official serving the people of Hillsborough County,” she said. “Andrew Warren is being removed because he assured our community that he will not be a foot soldier in Ron DeSantis’ extremist agenda.”

DeSantis appointed Hillsborough County Judge Susan Lopez to serve in Warren’s place during his suspension.

“I have the utmost respect for our state laws and I understand the important role that the state attorney plays in ensuring the safety of our community and the enforcement of our laws,” Lopez said.
 

ActionianJacksonian

Well-Known Member
And yet there was nothing in that about taking away funding. You can keep on trolling for the hate mongers, but what you are saying is just flat out false.

Rescinding the attack on kids that DeSantis and the other Regressive Republican governors are attempting on these schools has nothing to do with their funding. They are just pretending like it is to try to trick their cult into believing that somehow it is Biden that is hurting these kids and not them. And that is a lie.

They are attacking school kids who just want to hang out and play with their friends, and because enough of the bigoted Republicans have bought into the hate mongering, they know it is likely to help them win a primary when all they need is about 23% of the Republican vote.

Just because they could do it, doesn't mean that Biden is going to act in a similar manner to the fascist actions that DeSantis has pulled, and the fact that he has not and you can't find anything where they threatened funding is proof of that.

But you are a disingenuous troll, so I am sure you will just keep on selling your lies.

You all really are into some sick shit.

Trying to use this kind of stuff as cannon fodder for the right wing loons is just par for the course though.


Biden said that these kids should not have to be in fear because of the bigotry that you are championing. And he said nothing about SNAP, that is all on the propagandist right wing hate mongers shilling for their fascist state leaders (like DeSantis).
Biden said, in plain English; that school sports are not to be discriminated based on gender, a new protected class separate from biological sex. Your IQ is winter room temperature.
 

ActionianJacksonian

Well-Known Member
Can you credibly document that?
No. It's just a hunch that you're new to team blue.

The standard response I recieve is that DSM5 is bigoted and hateful for containing gender dysphoria in a similar way gay was considered a mental disorder a time ago. And that we should use ICD11 like the rest of the world.

But like all things, it's a matter of funding. In the US you have to have a billing code and the easiest way to get patients the care is to classify as a mental disorder. ICD is under WHO iirc sober deals with many countries laws. It specifically excludes gender dysphoria to provide more access to care because some countries would simply remove all rights from someone having such a disorder.

Some of the same people helped to classify in both texts.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
No. It's just a hunch that you're new to team blue.

The standard response I recieve is that DSM5 is bigoted and hateful for containing gender dysphoria in a similar way gay was considered a mental disorder a time ago. And that we should use ICD11 like the rest of the world.

But like all things, it's a matter of funding. In the US you have to have a billing code and the easiest way to get patients the care is to classify as a mental disorder. ICD is under WHO iirc sober deals with many countries laws. It specifically excludes gender dysphoria to provide more access to care because some countries would simply remove all rights from someone having such a disorder.

Some of the same people helped to classify in both texts.
got it; thanks





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hanimmal

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Biden said, in plain English; that school sports are not to be discriminated based on gender, a new protected class separate from biological sex.
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Notice in this post you didn't bring up your lie about Biden saying that they were going to withhold funding for schools like you kept doing in your previous posts.


Your IQ is winter room temperature.


At least I don't have to shill for hate mongering propagandists that are attacking school kids to rile up their 'base'.
 

ActionianJacksonian

Well-Known Member
So DeSantis' trolls are out trying to sell this as some kind of attack on Biden when down in Desantistan the Republicans passed a law that breaks their state's constitution. And then fired a democratically elected prosecutor who signed a letter along with 90 others that they would not people for seeking, providing or supporting abortions.

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It would be rude if I accused you of functional illiteracy, so I won't.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Yeah, that's all I got. Your use of the term gender dysphoria is the only thing that makes me think you are recent to team blue even though I know your hold dear that the red half of the country are klansmen.

Oh wait my bad, klanspersons of all genders.
lol at 'half the country'. 22% at best are in the hate mongering cult.
You are pretending like I didn't say that the law banning abortions was unconstitutional (Florida's) now like a good little propagandist. I didn't. You are a lying troll.
 

ActionianJacksonian

Well-Known Member
lol at 'half the country'. 22% at best are in the hate mongering cult.

You are pretending like I didn't say that the law banning abortions was unconstitutional (Florida's) now like a good little propagandist. I didn't. You are a lying troll.
Ok I will bite this. What law did DeSantis sign that breaks their constitution as you stated?

Edit: oh I see.

Show me in the FL Constitution the right to abortion or your just a stooge of Putin, thanks.
 
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hanimmal

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Ok I will bite this. What law did DeSantis sign that breaks their constitution as you stated?

Edit: oh I see.

Show me in the FL Constitution the right to abortion or your just a stooge of Putin, thanks.
I guess you are just going to pretend like you didn't move the goal posts on your last bit of trolling by lying about Biden, but oh well, can't really expect you to be a real person when you are busy shilling for fascist hate mongers.

Oh well.

As for your next bit of trolling, I did a few posts ago. But I get it, your spam and knee jerk need to push your lies likely meant you missed it.






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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) on Thursday signed legislation that will ban abortions in the state after 15 weeks of pregnancy as Republican-led states move swiftly to restrict abortion access.

Florida currently allows abortions up to 24 weeks. The new law, which passed the GOP-controlled legislature in March, includes exceptions for the life of the mother and “fatal fetal anomalies” but does not make exceptions for rape or incest. It would take effect in July.

“We are here today to defend those who can’t defend themselves,” said DeSantis, who is up for reelection this year and widely seen as a 2024 presidential hopeful. He added, “Of course, these are babies that have heartbeats and that can feel pain and can move,” a claim challenged by medical science.

Before now, the strongest abortion law signed by DeSantis was a 2020 measure requiring parental consent. Other prominent GOP governors likely to run for president in 2024, South Dakota Gov. Kristi L. Noem and Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, have made antiabortion measures a priority in their states.

In Kentucky, the Republican-led legislature overrode Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear’s veto Wednesday evening and passed strict abortion restrictions that advocates say will force the state’s two clinics to stop providing abortions immediately.

Florida’s 15-week ban is modeled after a Mississippi law at the heart of the case currently under review by the Supreme Court, which could overturn or roll back Roe v. Wade, the landmark precedent that has guaranteed the right to abortion nationwide for nearly 50 years. Republican lawmakers in Florida have said they settled on a 15-week ban to maximize the chance that their legislation can take effect soon after the Supreme Court announces its decision this summer.

Democratic lawmakers in the state fought hard to stop the bill’s passage earlier this year, staging a series of protests at the Tallahassee capitol.

“It’s not even a culture war issue. It is health care. Abortion is health care. So how dare you strip away our rights with this new piece of policy?” said Florida state Rep. Anna Eskamani (D) at a Tallahassee rally in January.

Eskamani and other abortion rights advocates see the 15-week ban as part of DeSantis’s broader presidential strategy.

“He doesn’t want to be one of the candidates who was governor who did not ban abortion,” said Eskamani in a February interview. “He wants to be able to put on all his mailers, ‘I banned abortion in Florida.’”
DeSantis forcing his will on women in Florida so that he can use it for right wing cred.

Anyways, have a good night trolling on about whatever stupid shit you are going to use to try to keep the cultists brainwashed into believing that the party who has giving us a recession every single time they have been in office for the last century is a good idea.
 

ActionianJacksonian

Well-Known Member
I guess you are just going to pretend like you didn't move the goal posts on your last bit of trolling by lying about Biden, but oh well, can't really expect you to be a real person when you are busy shilling for fascist hate mongers.

Oh well.

As for your next bit of trolling, I did a few posts ago. But I get it, your spam and knee jerk need to push your lies likely meant you missed it.






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DeSantis forcing his will on women in Florida so that he can use it for right wing cred.

Anyways, have a good night trolling on about whatever stupid shit you are going to use to try to keep the cultists brainwashed into believing that the party who has giving us a recession every single time they have been in office for the last century is a good idea.
Desantis could have vetoed and it still would have passed, reflecting the will of the women of Florida

You still have not documented anything repugnant to the FL or US Constitutions. It's on you to do as you claimed such.

So far you documented a Governor signing a law that was passed by Legislature. Document how that is Unconstitutional.

I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Right wingers argue legal minutia when it is convenient to them. When it's not, they talk about God's will or natural law or what the founders were thinking as if one can know what they were thinking.

It is all about a right wing authoritarian power grab. They supported Trump who tried to overthrow the election and when that failed they supported his big lie to justify it. Now they are arguing legal minutia to deflect the real issue of their attack on democracy to culture war. When It's all just about a minority taking control of government from the majority. They don't care about anything else.

So I call bullshit on the previous poster. I don't even need to read what he said.
 

ActionianJacksonian

Well-Known Member
lol
John Money taught at my university.
The Jesus Taliban hated him then too.

“Biological male/female” is the latest bigoted dog whistle.

What your Reimer anecdote glosses over as unimportant is that Reimer was not consulted regarding the reassignment. This means the example is ridiculously inapt when today’s gender-dysphoric youngsters self-identify, and become voluntary participants in their corrective reconstruction.

The toxics would harm voluntary sex reassignment. They are visibly working against birth control. The endpoint is undiluted sharia.

(edit) I am finding no indication that the term “gender dysphoria” is controversial anong the not Godblind. Anyone?

anyone?

Bueller?
To your edit:

Gender dysphoria was known as gender identity disorder until 2013 when DSM5 came out. The "disorder" part was dropped because of the stigma.

DSM5 is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th edition; which contains the definition of gender dysphoria.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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So DeSantis' trolls are out trying to sell this as some kind of attack on Biden when down in Desantistan the Republicans passed a law that breaks their state's constitution. And then fired a democratically elected prosecutor who signed a letter along with 90 others that they would not people for seeking, providing or supporting abortions.

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“When you flagrantly violate your oath of office, when you make yourself above the law, you have violated your duty, you have neglected your duty and you are displaying a lack of competence to be able to perform those duties,” DeSantis said.

said the very very black pot, looking at the shiny copper kettle...
 

ActionianJacksonian

Well-Known Member
Right wingers argue legal minutia when it is convenient to them. When it's not, they talk about God's will or natural law or what the founders were thinking as if one can know what they were thinking.

It is all about a right wing authoritarian power grab. They supported Trump who tried to overthrow the election and when that failed they supported his big lie to justify it. Now they are arguing legal minutia to deflect the real issue of their attack on democracy to culture war. When It's all just about a minority taking control of government from the majority. They don't care about anything else.

So I call bullshit on the previous poster. I don't even need to read what he said.
Impossible to know what they were thinking man they should have wrote it down or something what a bunch of dummies. They should have had pens and paper and shit.
 
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