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PopAndSonGrows

PopAndSonGrows

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Offmymeds said:
Are you kidding? Biden has so far prevented a nuclear war by leading the charge and aligning NATO allies that FPOTUS had totally alienated. FPOTUS was ready to kill NATO. POTUS strengthened NATO after a disastrous transactional foreign policy and secured funding for the war to preserve democracy. He did it despite knowing it could cost him politically but it was\is the right thing to do.
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Okay yet again, you're missing the point that Zelenskyy, NOT Biden, stoked "support from the World", you're just regurgitating things that Biden has done on behalf of Ukraine. Biden nor the current Administration rallied the World. I think the fact that a comedian rose thru the ranks and became one of the most respected men to ever lead that country, rallied the World's support. Facebook with their profile pic filters of the Ukranian flag, have done more to rally support from the World than anything Biden has done.

Agin, i'm not saying Biden did nothing, quite the contrary. BUT, he did rally the World. the Z-Man did it himself, and the social media trends furthered that. Comprende?
 
Fogdog

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ec121 said:
He has his 30% and he always will. Independents and many other Republicans have moved on and they are aware of the facts. He will very likely get primaried.
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It all depends on how many Republicans run in the primary and what they do. Recall that Bernie had a very solid 25% support in the Democratic Party and could have won the 2020 primary with that had other Democratic Party candidates not thrown their support behind Biden.
 
PopAndSonGrows

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cannabineer said:
Not really. He is pointing out that you’re being black&white with something all in grays. Biden’s policies and press releases had a real effect.
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"Real effect" still doesn't verify that he "rallied the World", i still say that didn't happen. Zelenskyy is charismatic enough to have done that, AND garnered Biden's support. And yes, making such a claim is black OR white, there's no grey area in a statement like "he rallied the World"
 
DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
you mean seats. Example: California elected one senator this election and elects the next in two years.
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Senate seats tend to be until death and hanging on to one is a lot easier than getting one. Get majorities, DC and Puerto Rico could have two each also. Dunno how the alternation would work in that situation with two new senators from a state. You are correct about the election cycles and seats per state, I just assumed it when I wrote.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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PopAndSonGrows said:
"Real effect" still doesn't verify that he "rallied the World", i still say that didn't happen. Zelenskyy is charismatic enough to have done that, AND garnered Biden's support. And yes, making such a claim is black OR white, there's no grey area in a statement like "he rallied the World"
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Hey, don't forget about Donald's buddy Putin's role in all this, the war crimes, civilian massacres and destroyed cities scared the shit out of Europe and made a real easy lift for Joe, as even republicans were pissed off.
 
hanimmal

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schuylaar said:
@hanimmal where is that really nice full page of accomplishments you've posted before..do you have it handy?

Biden secured and protected your SS check whether or not you are receiving..you see..there's this thing called Social Security Trust Fund.

Perhaps you'll get your wish once dems stop cleaning the mess of the GOP.
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/ok-then-biden-2020.994745/post-17118538

PopAndSonGrows said:
I'll admit that, while Biden has made some MAJOR accomplishments as POTUS, my overall opinion of this Administration is still "lame duck". I don't think it's unreasonable to expect each serving POTUS to do something, or, ideally, MANY things that are considered "major strides". So, sucking their dick over a handful of great achievements is just not something I'm willing to do. They're SUPPOSED to do great things.

Now, if we can ever get a POTUS, who, start to finish, does all the great shit they campaign about, then that'll really be something. My money is NOT on these current Republicans to do it though.
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I think it is that Biden has gotten things done for virtually everyone in America and it gets a bit lost is the noise. The above list doesn't even cover a lot of the things he has signed for vets.

I agree though, the next disaster could wreck his presidency if he is not able to resolve it quickly like he has done every other time so far (like the baby formula bullshit)).


PopAndSonGrows said:
Ehh, i credit Zalenskyy for rallying thr World behind Ukraine. Joe sent him some bullets, sure, but in no way did Biden rally the World. Zalenskyy did that. That list is fluffed.
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The thing I like about Biden, is that you really can't know what you say is true or not, because Biden is happy to let others take the spotlight if it gets things done.

And sure Biden did not rally 'the world' because basically half the planet is under the rule of a dictator. But, it is worth remembering that prior to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Biden was out front saying that the attack was going to happen and working to get NATO to understand it behind the scenes. At that point even Zelensky was talking down the imminent Russian invasion in public. That preparation by outing Putin's plan bought Ukraine those critical weeks early on (not waiting around for politicians to see the attack then respond to work to get Ukraine what it needed) that ultimately helped to stall the Russian military's advance.
 
xtsho

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PopAndSonGrows said:
Okay yet again, you're missing the point that Zelenskyy, NOT Biden, stoked "support from the World", you're just regurgitating things that Biden has done on behalf of Ukraine. Biden nor the current Administration rallied the World. I think the fact that a comedian rose thru the ranks and became one of the most respected men to ever lead that country, rallied the World's support. Facebook with their profile pic filters of the Ukranian flag, have done more to rally support from the World than anything Biden has done.

Agin, i'm not saying Biden did nothing, quite the contrary. BUT, he did rally the World. the Z-Man did it himself, and the social media trends furthered that. Comprende?
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Facebook or social media didn't fire a single bullet or liberate occupied towns. That was done by Ukrainian soldiers and weapons provided by the west. Facebook posts had zero effect on anything happening on the battleground which is what matters.
 
cannabineer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Senate seats tend to be until death and hanging on to one is a lot easier than getting one. Get majorities, DC and Puerto Rico could have two each also. Dunno how the alternation would work in that situation with two new senators from a state. You are correct about the election cycles and seats per state, I just assumed it when I wrote.
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they actually don’t.

www.pewresearch.org

Some members of Congress have been there for decades, but seats typically change hands more frequently

When Congress convened in 2021, 72% of House members and 65% of senators were new since the start of the 111th Congress in 2009.
www.pewresearch.org www.pewresearch.org
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
they actually don’t.

www.pewresearch.org

Some members of Congress have been there for decades, but seats typically change hands more frequently

When Congress convened in 2021, 72% of House members and 65% of senators were new since the start of the 111th Congress in 2009.
www.pewresearch.org www.pewresearch.org
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If they are democrats, they tend to be held more accountable for performance, for Republicans, Herschel will do, so would Donald, character doesn't count with them. If not for life, at least until demographic and generational change or the GOP undergoes a magical transformation. Right now, it's an image remake, lipstick on the pig.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
If they are democrats, they tend to be held more accountable for performance, for Republicans, Herschel will do, so would Donald, character doesn't count with them. If not for life, at least until demographic and generational change or the GOP undergoes a magical transformation. Right now, it's an image remake, lipstick on the pig.
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Goalpost move
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
Goalpost move
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MTG, Ted Cruiz, Lindsey Graham, it is a long list... What was Al Franken turfed for again, grabbing pussy? A few have died in harness and a few more nearly. There is one thing republican senators couldn't do, shit on Trump, at least the ones running for office, until recently. That is 65% turnover over 6 election cycles or 12 years, yet we see so many who makes Joe look like pup.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
MTG, Ted Cruiz, Lindsey Graham, it is a long list... What was Al Franken turfed for again, grabbing pussy? A few have died in harness and a few more nearly. There is one thing republican senators couldn't do, shit on Trump, at least the ones running for office, until recently. That is 65% turnover over 6 election cycles or 12 years, yet we see so many who makes Joe look like pup.
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weren’t we talking about senators?
 
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schuylaar

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@Fogdog I pretty much recall Zelensky asking for money a lot- it was a daily occurrence and he was bringing US people into it rather than pitching to Congress and/or Biden. I felt like he was pressuring us personally and I didn't like that..putting it into the laps of those who've just been beaten down emotionally by the 45th and his crew with the Insurrection. That Man had control over my life for 4 years and he tortured me just like putting migrants in cages..he had me in a cage too.
 
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