Why some still Don't grow Organically?

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Dancydancer

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This is very curious to me.
Since Cannabis Culture and everything with it is tied up with nature and us human beings enjoying and healing ourselves with what nature gave us, I still find upsetting and disgusting when some Growers buy trillion commercial non-organic fertilizers with WHAT NAMES? BLOOMBASTIC, Big Bud Liquid, Bud CANDY, etc. to be hooked up to product and Hobby (growing) they do.

Isn't being close as possible to nature everybody's goal?
When I see some Growdiaries where some of us list alllll bottle products they use, the list will be infinite in next decade!

Since I started growing Cannabis (5years ago) I knew I want to go Bio from day one.
Not mentioning that growing Bio is MUCH Less time consuming - no need to measure PH - you have living soil, no need to mix trillion bottles every watering - top dress feeding + tea once a while is enough.

Flame me, throw rocks on me, but at the end of the day, Bio Growers will be the ones, who will have it's purest Earth gift.

After expressing my anger, now I calmly and with love asking you who are not Bio growing - why?
 
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Wastei

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You seem to got this the complete other way around. Have you tried both styles of growing so you have some personal experience or references to share?

Commercial organic fertilizer is often less environmental friendly and dirtier than salt based minerals, this is hard for newcomers to understand. You have to look at the manufacturing process and what chemicals they use to break down all the organic matter, they don't have enough time to do it naturally and they would never make profit.

You seem to have bought in to all the marketing. I use three different products in my nutrient solution. If I'm running true organics I need to add 10 different amendments, cook the soil and feed the micro herd to even be close to get the same result as with mineral salt based nutrients.

There's Gaia green 4-4-4 you could use from start to finish but there's more variables to keep in check running organics not the other way around, if you want to grow topshelf that is. Keeping optimal temperatures and feeding at optimal timings, you have to calculate the release rate of the slow released amendmendts and this is mostly controlled by the microbial life in the soil.

It takes me 15 minutes to do a rez change while it would take me months to cook an organic soil, and you somehow think it's easier with less work?
 
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Dancydancer

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Wastei said:
You seem to got this the complete other way around. Have you tried both styles of growing so you have some personal experience or references to share?

You seem to have bought in to all the marketing. I use three different products in my nutrient solution. If I'm running true organics I need to add 10 different amendments, cook the soil and feed the micro herd to even be close to get the same result as with mineral salt based nutrients.

There's Gaia green 4-4-4 you could use from start to finish but there's more variables to keep in check running organics not the other way around, if you want to grow topshelf that is. Keep optimal temperatures and feeding at optimal timings, you have to calculate the release rate of the slow released amendmendts and this is mostly controlled by the microbial life in the soil.

It takes me 15 minutes to do a rez change while it would take me months to cook an organic soil, and you somehow think it's easier with less work?
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Mr. Canucks, Kevin Jodrey, Swami Chaitanya, Derek Gilman say otherwise. Their results are public.
 
Wastei

Wastei

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Mr. Canucks is a fucking clown. You think his results are desirable?
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You free to grow burnt crisp and sad looking plant following the YouTube trolls!

Kevin Jodrey seems to self proclaim himself as the Messiah and expert cannabis cultivator. One thing I've learned through my years is never listen to a self proclaimed expert!
 
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Hmm.....why don't I grow organically? My guess would be because I'm not a sheep that has been indoctrinated into the new modern order were people pine for validation for every little thing they do and tout that holier than thou attitude.

.......or I could just be an
 
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Wastei

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7CardBud said:
Hmm.....why don't I grow organically? My guess would be because I'm not a sheep that has been indoctrinated into the new modern order were people pine for validation for every little thing they do and tout that holier than thou attitude.

.......or I could just be an
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Young people just repeat what they see on the screen and think they can become experts without doing any actual work.

They have been led to follow and repeat information without questioning it. It works really well to control the young and naive when the only form of information and media they consume is someone else's work that's only there for gained profit.

Read scientific papers and books about agriculture if you really want to learn about how to optimally grow plants. It's not adviceable to following YouTube trolls or self proclaimed experts that's just after your money.
 
Killaki

Killaki

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Dancydancer said:
This is very curious to me.
Since Cannabis Culture and everything with it is tied up with nature and us human beings enjoying and healing ourselves with what nature gave us, I still find upsetting and disgusting when some Growers buy trillion commercial non-organic fertilizers with WHAT NAMES? BLOOMBASTIC, Big Bud Liquid, Bud CANDY, etc. to be hooked up to product and Hobby (growing) they do.

Isn't being close as possible to nature everybody's goal?
When I see some Growdiaries where some of us list alllll bottle products they use, the list will be infinite in next decade!

Since I started growing Cannabis (5years ago) I knew I want to go Bio from day one.
Not mentioning that growing Bio is MUCH Less time consuming - no need to measure PH - you have living soil, no need to mix trillion bottles every watering - top dress feeding + tea once a while is enough.

Flame me, throw rocks on me, but at the end of the day, Bio Growers will be the ones, who will have it's purest Earth gift.

After expressing my anger, now I calmly and with love asking you who are not Bio growing - why?
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I'm going to assume by the way this is worded you support some sort of technique specifically. I'm drawing a blank so I must be out of the know here.
My 2 cents- if you compost yourself and diy growing to the core it's much more satisfying and feels good, it feels "natural". But I'm that type of person in everything I do so obviously I have a bias.
Non organic compounds being bad to grow or bad for you isn't really a concern of mine. I'm more interested to know where my materials are coming from and know what sort of impact that's having on the environment, because I don't want to support that. Just my personal preference.
 
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Honyuk96

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I think the main reason folks choose salts is it’s easier and you can get fantastic results rather easily. I myself have switched to organics and ammending w dry organic nutes. Organics is much more difficult style i am finding but the end results are so worth it to me. No going back to coco and salts for me. To each their own
 
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Jjgrow420

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Honyuk96 said:
I think the main reason folks choose salts is it’s easier and you can get fantastic results rather easily. I myself have switched to organics and ammending w dry organic nutes. Organics is much more difficult style i am finding but the end results are so worth it to me. No going back to coco and salts for me. To each their own
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Lol. You can put 2 buds (grown well) together one grown 'organic' one not. You won't be able to tell the difference and neither can anyone else.
 
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VaSmile

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I was taught how to grow with synthetis and I know it works for me. I look forward to switching to organic growing but need the confidence that I'm doing it right and will get good results. The biggest reason to grow with synthetics consistency and control. Soil feedings take time to absorb and adjust while water feedings are absorbed almost instantly. If I have a nutrient I balance it is easy to correct in a rapid qnd measured manner. I have been told by experienced organic growers "If you grow with autos you simply don't have the time for soil only feeding if you want a decent harvest"
 
The-Liquor

The-Liquor

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Haha wow this can't be real. Your goal is not everyone else's goal but I'm proud of you for being all organic lol. Thats great! As my uncle would say You Go Girl. Just because I use a few bottles of fertilizer doesn't mean I throw trash in lakes and rivers lol I'm not an animal. I know you didn't say that, but your post comes across as elitist.

I live out in the country and recycling services are not offered but we collect it in the garage and when needed we load it up into my.... Truck and bring it to the recycling center. I'm a good person, well at least I thought I was until I read your post haha.
 
Hook Daddy

Hook Daddy

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Well it seems to me that a big part of your gripe should be aimed at the marketing people not the growers. To say that just synthetic fertilizer has bs marketing with childish pictures and names is not correct, the organics companies do the same, it’s about the dollar not the environment. Here’s an example, fits your description, in fact big bud liquid was one of your examples in your original post and it is organic, go figure. I grow mainly organic now, but always have a bag of jacks near by when the plants need a quick fix, nothing wrong with that at all.

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