Mammath
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Nah, if that's the case, the haze needs it, I say start the bloom nutes.
The JF's should be OK.
Do you know the NPK breakdown of the bloom nutes?
How much N is in it?
Help Plz! seedling leaves are drying at the tips and curling
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The JF's should be OK.
Do you know the NPK breakdown of the bloom nutes?
How much N is in it?
SciensWiz
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Day 20 12/12
PH 5.9
PPM 1100
Temp 80F
So things are going very well right now...the only problem i have now is a little stratching from the JF because the light needs to be high enough so that it wont burn the new buds on the haze. The ppm is good now I think and I am gradually raising it. How do you think they look now? that bagseed plant has alot more indica in it than the other ones..its buds are maturing alot faster..I have about a foot and a half more vertical space to work with..do you think the haze is going to chill out around there? should i start bending them alot more now?
Oh and to answer your question the bloom A is 4.3-0-3.1 and the bloom B is 1.5-6.1-5.7....its the advance nutrients sensi 2 part program. By the way everything is budding, even all the JFs!!!
PH 5.9
PPM 1100
Temp 80F
So things are going very well right now...the only problem i have now is a little stratching from the JF because the light needs to be high enough so that it wont burn the new buds on the haze. The ppm is good now I think and I am gradually raising it. How do you think they look now? that bagseed plant has alot more indica in it than the other ones..its buds are maturing alot faster..I have about a foot and a half more vertical space to work with..do you think the haze is going to chill out around there? should i start bending them alot more now?
Oh and to answer your question the bloom A is 4.3-0-3.1 and the bloom B is 1.5-6.1-5.7....its the advance nutrients sensi 2 part program. By the way everything is budding, even all the JFs!!!
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Mammath
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Damn Wiz, lookin great!
That haze has gone fucking crazy. It's like a jungle in there.
Usually plants stop growing up at around week 4-5 of 12/12.
What day you at of 12/12?
It's a pitty the JF's are so small and stretchy but you knew that would happen because they were started so late.
You will still get a nice cola out of each one.
The bagseed looks tatsy too.
Watch those temps. I can see some leaf edge curl in some of those pics. Not that I can talk about controlling heat in grow room.
What's your humidity?
Looking fantastic mate. Well done.
That haze has gone fucking crazy. It's like a jungle in there.
Usually plants stop growing up at around week 4-5 of 12/12.
What day you at of 12/12?
It's a pitty the JF's are so small and stretchy but you knew that would happen because they were started so late.
You will still get a nice cola out of each one.
The bagseed looks tatsy too.
Watch those temps. I can see some leaf edge curl in some of those pics. Not that I can talk about controlling heat in grow room.
What's your humidity?
Looking fantastic mate. Well done.
SciensWiz
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Yea its week 3 of 12/12 its been about 20 days...so hopefully that means theyll stop growing to much more soon...I think the JFs will turn out ok because thats what the haze did in the beginning and they look great now...I went outa town for a week for spring break and when i came back i noticed my roomate wasnt using the humidifiers(which keeps the humidity around 50 and lowers the temps about 5 degrees F...I just hope i dont have the same problem you did with some of your tops bleeching...i just upped the ppm to 1300 wooo! I think the buds are maturing a little slower because they werent getting enough nutes in the beginning and werent on the bloom base nutes till less than a week ago...cant wait to see what 2 more weeks does..
SciensWiz
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Alright here is the deal...The temps dont get any higher than 83F and humidity is always ATLEAST 35% and that at canopy level...I dont get why the two larger plants are still curling at the margins...is it just the light intensity or what? the plant that is right in the doorway has never had any issues with curling though its weird..This is the 27th day of 12/12 and im beginning to think i wont have enough vertical space to work with. I am tying the taller stems down and using some bonzai techniques on some, I hope these little tricks can hold these 3 haze monsters off until shes ready cuzz I only have about 10 inches of vertical space left to work with..any suggestions on preventing leaf curl or vertical growth would be much appreciated.
Here are some shots of the room...the buds so far..and the leaf curl.
Here are some shots of the room...the buds so far..and the leaf curl.
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Mammath
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I think all you can keep doing is tying them down Wiz.
You may end up with something that resembles a puppet show in there but those babies still have a bit of growing to do I think.
Another technique that some guys use is to pinch the stem where it's soft at the top of the branches to slow down growth.
It's similar to super-cropping but not as harsh because there's no bending of the limb.
Try that on a couple of growth points and see if it slows them down.
Light intensity will also cause those leaf edges to curl. it can also fuck your buds up too if they get too close to the light.
Not just with bleaching but also causing them to not thicken up and they will go all spindly and fox-tail like.
Keep us posted.
You may end up with something that resembles a puppet show in there but those babies still have a bit of growing to do I think.
Another technique that some guys use is to pinch the stem where it's soft at the top of the branches to slow down growth.
It's similar to super-cropping but not as harsh because there's no bending of the limb.
Try that on a couple of growth points and see if it slows them down.
Light intensity will also cause those leaf edges to curl. it can also fuck your buds up too if they get too close to the light.
Not just with bleaching but also causing them to not thicken up and they will go all spindly and fox-tail like.
Keep us posted.
SciensWiz
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I got ya...in a few spots the parts of the buds will look a little dried out and not so vigorous..I got desperate and moved the computers out of that room and to my suprise the canopy temp went from 83 to 79 so I hope things stay that way. I just want the buds to reach their full potential but i dont think thats gonna happen because of the space issue...i hope i cant still get a descent crop..they all have a TON of bud sites though... I will do the pinch if i think its gunna come down to that..I suppose I will be able to tell in a couple days...what do you think about keeping them in the dark for a couple days..ive heard that can help inhibit anymore excesive vertical growth..what do you think ?
Mammath
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I saw the Greenhouse guys do that on one of there grows on youtube to slow the plants stretching down so it's obviously a proven method if they use so it.
I have no experience with doing it personally though. I understand the concept so it should work.
It is a fucking jungle in there isn't it?
Mammath
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That's not a bad thing! lol
Best be fighting to keep growth under control than to be sitting under a lonesome tree, praying for your shit to grow!
Mass growth - out of control = Good Problems. They're the ones worth solving.
SciensWiz
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yea it seems like they have stopped growing up so much, i hope im not speeking to soon...so i raised the light a few more inches to see if the hairs will stop drying out at the tips. About 50 percent of the hairs have dried out at the tips it seems like...on some of the buds that arent as close to the lights dont have any problems but then again some that get hardly any light are dried(very few though). It is kinda freaking me out, being my first time I dont know anything about this part and I cant visualize how they are going to turn out...its pretty nerve wracking..ill try to get some better close up shots tomorrow with the light on so you can see what i mean.
I think 2 of the plants are just weird...even their lower leaves that dont get much light curl at the margins a bit while the one haze right in the doorway never curls and has healthy looking hairs for the most part...maybe they are just shity plants and extra sensitive..
I think 2 of the plants are just weird...even their lower leaves that dont get much light curl at the margins a bit while the one haze right in the doorway never curls and has healthy looking hairs for the most part...maybe they are just shity plants and extra sensitive..
Mammath
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Sativas are slow as hell. 12 -14 weeks sometimes to flower fully.
You've just started really if your at week 4 - 5.
You got any pics?
GHSC are known for having some real shitty phenos also. Hope you haven't got some mutant phenos that just don't flower properly.
Pics please.
SciensWiz
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ok here are some pics...i feel like this is pretty much what they looked like a week ago...maybe its just because there are SO many bud sights and they have alot of places to spread the wealth to...still though i feel like some other ppl with GH arjans ultra haze plants were noticeably further along at this stage...and the tallest plant has the least mature buds by far(a little further behind than the ones in the pics)
the first pic is a side branch on the shortest plant that seems to have buds that are a little further along than the other 2 haze plants..the next 2 pics are buds on its top 2 main stems..the last pic is the main stem on a JF
the first pic is a side branch on the shortest plant that seems to have buds that are a little further along than the other 2 haze plants..the next 2 pics are buds on its top 2 main stems..the last pic is the main stem on a JF
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SciensWiz
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man its pretty good i think...Highest temps at canopy level havent got past 81 in a week...humidity is at 40% at canopy level..the light is 18-24 inches from the tops..the ppm and ph are also stable...I dont know what else to do really except try to lower the temps even more...they look green and healthy though, even the lower leaves are still green and healthy
SciensWiz
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Yo mammath im about to purchase a bud booster and im REALLY thinking about going with a canna aqua product...either the canna boost accelerator or the PK 13/14....what do you think I should go with...or do you know of anything else out there you know i should get for sure
Mammath
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I've been using the PK 13-14 for a while and I love the stuff. I use it through week 4 and 5 of 12/12. It really seems to assist in the bud production, I mean the difference is amazing after those couple of weeks when using it. Buds will double in size from the PK. I used it in my last documented grow and you can see the benefits from the pics in the journal.
I haven't tried the boost acc' yet but I'm going to. As I understand it's more of a finisher that gets used at the end, but I'm not sure because i haven't done the research. Definitely get into the PK though, it's about the right time for you and it's fabulous stuff. That should get those buds moving along.
