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[iblazethatkush]

You sir are an uneducated asshole. I would gladly see you move to a foriegn country. Maybe they have one for assholes like you, oh did I forget to put opinionated in front of asshole, let me refresh that. You are an opinionated asshole. I wish you had to work 80 hrs a week to support me. I am retired and don't have to work, just keep on working and bitching, seems to suit you.

Yeah I couldn't read all the stuff you wrote, PandaBear, way too long and would take way too much time. But what I have read on these last couple pages leads me to this same conclusion. You are an asshole, my friend.

 

[closet.cult]

hey panda, that was a sweet pic of natalie portman. but we need to cut out the head of that troll next to her like my sister's x boyfriend's pics.

 

[pandabear]

Quote:
Originally Posted by pandabear
dude are you sick or somthin?? im not white I am an immigrant myself, and you tellin about a melting pot!!!!!!! and now you suggesting i hate peoples races?? why are you trying to suggest i dont like hispanics and blacks? is there somthing i said that made you believe this or is that just your way to deflect my argument which cannot be deflected intilectually?

I believe that anyone can be racist, and your choice of epitaphs seemed to confirm your views on anyone that wasn’t like you or who you accept as being equal to you.


Quote:
Originally Posted by pandabear
fuck them other niggas trying to cut in line




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Originally Posted by pandabear
fuck that you let the mexos in



I hope you can understand my confusion, and I would never call you a racist.




ha ha dankie i threw those words in expecting one of you guys to say somthing. just shows how out of touch you are. lol but how you even say mexo is a messed up thing to say, what about paki , or jap or whatever else you actully get insulted by words like that?? this is another exampt of the hypersensitive left. i would hazard to say the real ones who are racist are the one that have smiling faces handing out candy to poor minorities, anyway its cool im pretty sure you understood all this from the start and your just trying to tred water

 

[pandabear]

You sir are an uneducated asshole. I would gladly see you move to a foriegn country. Maybe they have one for assholes like you, oh did I forget to put opinionated in front of asshole, let me refresh that. You are an opinionated asshole. I wish you had to work 80 hrs a week to support me. I am retired and don't have to work, just keep on working and bitching, seems to suit you.

haha!! medi and you my friend!!! you are once again here but cannot rebut a single word of what i said . this is your silent blessing, making me correct,

so since i speak fact, fact that you cannot twist and rebut you decide your only recoarse is to call me an uneducated asshole with great pomp and fanfare, but remember, even if am all these things you claim my friend, it still will never change the fact that im right and you know it.


i accept your insult

 

[pandabear]

hey panda, that was a sweet pic of natalie portman. but we need to cut out the head of that troll next to her like my sister's x boyfriend's pics.

i was wondering who that was, mmmm nice titties

 

[dankie]

ha ha dankie i threw those words in expecting one of you guys to say somthing. just shows how out of touch you are. lol but how you even say mexo is a messed up thing to say, what about paki , or jap or whatever else you actully get insulted by words like that?? this is another exampt of the hypersensitive left. i would hazard to say the real ones who are racist are the one that have smiling faces handing out candy to poor minorities, anyway its cool im pretty sure you understood all this from the start and your just trying to tred water

I have no reason to tread water. I don't use derogatory words to describe other races, in fact it looks like this last post was backpedaling on your part. The use of racial slurs does not make me mad, it makes me embarrassed that we are both carbon based bipods of the same genus and species.

If you have a dislike for other races that is your internal demon to conquer. If you feel it is a strength so be it. Again I never called you racist, but something inside you felt threatened, and you decided you should mention it. You may say hateful things because it is acceptable in your circle of friends.

Immigration policy in this country should not be based on how much money you make. In fact for a century and then some the immigration policy in this country was based on the inscription found at the base of the statue of liberty.

If your ideas and my ideas are different that is ok. Open discussion is a hallmark of what this country was founded on.

If you would like to continue the discussion on immigration we can, but when you run out of things to say, don't cop out of it by saying I called you something I didn't.

 

[mockingbird131313]

pandabear - The Butch parade was cruel and unusual punishment.

medicineman - You've been eloquent.

 

[pandabear]

how did i cop out, you never rebuted anything i said all you did was say i "may" hate blacks and persians, i dont even know where you got persian from i said my piece, lets just agree to disagree

 

[pandabear]

There was no official language in the United States until 2003 when GWB in an election year tried to get the patriotic vote. If you would like there are government documents in all languages, even your native tongue.

Can you blame businesses for trying to help the largest and richest group of immigrants to ever grace these shores? Please don't forget that more people in the world speak spanish than english.

oh ok i missed this one, i rebut:

i wouldnt say they are the richest group my friend but they are the largest, but i dont blame the businesses i blame the polititions that allow illigal immigrants to come in here and let them go to our schools and get drivers licenses and such. as far as english not being the main language "officially"
i know not this fact to be true or false. but i would hazard to say that a high rolling majority would vote it in as the official language if not already.

now you pass a vote in this democracy to make spanish the oficial lanuage and it passes, well then my freind you wont here another peep outa me and ill just keep goin on about my personal business

 

[iblazethatkush]

how did i cop out, you never rebuted anything i said all you did was say i "may" hate blacks and persians, i dont even know where you got persian from i said my piece, lets just agree to disagree

Come on, admit it you do hate black people. I could tell by the way u talk and your sig is a quote from Robert Lee that gave it away it too.

 

[pandabear]

ill throw this in, has anyone here been to miami recently?

its not an american city anymore.

so fine you say thats just one city, but when it slowly kreeps over many many years the power and influence the government of mexico will have over the untied states is going to be the end you guys i dont think see beyond your lives.

 

[pandabear]

Come on, admit it you do hate black people. I could tell by the way u talk and your sig is a quote from Robert Lee that gave it away it too.

naw man i have the quote cuz its the same thing happening with iraq now just so happend he said it, i say nigga like i would if i was talkin to a friend. like whats up nigga, or "yo that nigga is crazy!" or hey nigga go mop my floor, then i get punched by my nigga

just kiddin about the last one

 

[iblazethatkush]

ill throw this in, has anyone here been to miami recently?

its not an american city anymore.

so fine you say thats just one city, but when it slowly kreeps over many many years the power and influence the government of mexico will have over the untied states is going to be the end you guys i dont think see beyond your lives.

And your point? I grew up a 1/2 hour north of Miami. Miami is the shit, best city in the U.S.A. It has the most beautiful women in the world and do you know why? Because most of them are from spanish speaking countries and latinas are hotties. I think most ppl on here would be thrilled if there city was more like Miami. U just don't like diversity bcuz you're a racist.
Oh and FYI there are very few mexicans in southern florida.

 

[iblazethatkush]

naw man i have the quote cuz its the same thing happening with iraq now just so happend he said it, i say nigga like i would if i was talkin to a friend. like whats up nigga, or "yo that nigga is crazy!" or hey nigga go mop my floor, then i get punched by my nigga

just kiddin about the last one

Oh my bad, didn't read this. U must be in my generation then cuz a lot of ppl i know say nigga too. I'll give u the benefit of the doubt. With an a is okay, with an er your a racist.

 

[We1]

I wish in America even the average Joe could become president! But hey democracy is an ideal not a true science, even Bush jr's can become president.. Most people didn't even know that Bush had a son so they just assumed it was the first bush running for office unaware that he had already served two terms. I wish I was a movie star or rich! Then I to would run for president

 

[dankie]

Well since you have no reference material in your posts where you negate my statements, I figured your opinion didn’t count. So here we go:
There are 5 ways to gain residence status in the U.S.

• immigration through a family member
• immigration through employment
• immigration through investment
• immigration through the Diversity Lottery
• immigration through "The Registry" provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act

I won’t go into Family sponsorship, because the numbers of Visas issued is not based on country of origin
Employment is again straightforward, but it should be mentioned that since most of the illegal immigrants coming, are here for financial situations abroad this usually does not apply. It is worthwile to mention that 3 of the 5 classes here are available and the other 2 are on 5 and 7 year cycles that are currently closed.
Immigration through investment in all actuallity is part of employment, but the number of Visas issued is only 10000 when available, and has not been available for numerous years.
Diversity Lottery
Those born in any territory that has sent more than 50,000 immigrants to the US in the previous five years are not eligible to receive a diversity visa. For DV-2008, natives of the following nations were ineligible: Brazil, Canada, China (mainland-born), Colombia, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Haiti, India, Jamaica, Mexico, Pakistan, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Russia, South Korea, United Kingdom (except Northern Ireland) and its dependent territories, and Vietnam[1]. The entry period for DV-2008 was October 4, 2006 through December 3, 2006.
The ineligible countries may change from year to year, and are determined by counting those countries which sent 50,000 "immigrants" in the five years including that covered by the last published immigration statistics. Mexico has not been on the list of acceptable countries since 1945
80% of the visas issued by the lottery go to Europe and Africa.
Political Asylum:
This form of immigration requires an immigrant to become an illegal alien and be sponsered by a Congressman or above before he can even be considered for asylum. Only 6 resident cards have been issued this year.
Refugee:
Part of the political Asylum heading but different requires aliens to set foot on US soil before being considered a refugee. Cuba, Ukraine, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Guatemala and Iran are the only countries of origin that may apply for this status.

as far as the US citezen on welfar chart you submit, as you can see the chart shows the third largest block to be hispanic, so we already have a problem with people on welfare and you wanna add a shitload of mexicans to it?? how does that chart help you at all? so if blacks and whites are the highest that means we should throw some illgals in there just incase i wasnt being taxed enough??

This entire paragraph of your argument can be thrown out. Welfare is received only by citizens, and we are talking about illegal aliens.
So we will look at households with an illegal immigrant parent and Citizen minor. According to the latest US Dept. of Accounting report, only 5% of welfare recipients make up this class. These are still citizens receiving these benefits not illegal aliens.
Your next point was about public schools. I defer to the nations highest court, and if you have issue with it, let your representative know about it
- In 1982, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 5 to 4 that undocumented immigrant children are entitled to free public education.
Even though the Supreme Court ruled on it, let’s talk about the total cost of illegal immigrant children in our school system lets take CA 7.5 billion dollars annually are spent teaching illegal immigrants children. Now lets put that into perspective. 66% of the states agricultural workers are illegal immigrants. Without these workers it could then be assumed that 2/3s of the states 29.6 billion dollar annual crop would not be picked, destroying the US’s #1 agricultural market. This would cause the price of produce to increase by 300% So while we pay for their education, we also pay less for items every American uses from fast food to produce at the grocery store. This data is available here in Excel format.

I understand we have different views on this, and it may be impossible to change your mind So many of the "facts" that you have stated are incorrect not because you are racist, only because you have only been presented with the news media's representation of this subject. A small amount of time spent looking into this tricky subject would show you the truth in this situation.

If I could ask you to look at 1 web page if you don't bother clicking any of the other links in this post let it be this one:

Immigration 101 myth vs. reality

By the way Miami is by far one of the best cities to live in in the United States for a young adult. Hispanic and Latino culture is based on life health and having a good time. All of which are abundant in Miami.

 

[pandabear]

By the way Miami is by far one of the best cities to live in in the United States for a young adult. Hispanic and Latino culture is based on life health and having a good time. All of which are abundant in Miami.

i didnt say it wasnt a nice place to live. just saying nobody speaks english there, when you come to immigrate you are supposed to become an american not just bring you country here. I can have that opinion and its is agreed upon by the majority of citizens of this democratic country. when it is otherwise i will gladly take the loss and "move on"


as for the other stuff you posted, you still have not seen the point and tottally glossed over it with facts that have nothing to do with our disagreement,

so i say again:

"mexican nationals get the same opportunities to immigrate here as all other nations. so dont try to cop out and say "well they cant come here legally,"

you just dont like the fact that they have to deal with restrictions just like anyone else who wants to immigrate to this country, it seems you are giving them a "pass" like they deserve better than what everyone else has to do.

and dont tell me there aint mexican nationals sucking our treaseries dry. food stamsp emergency rooms, arrests, schools, dss, everything all the costs that come with extra people being here specially when they are not even paying taxes to suppliment these costs!!!.

and all this all of them are breaking the law, and hillary wants to give them drivers licenses so they can vote for her fraudulently!!

as of today there are 40 million fake social security numbers out there circulating in the system. now heres the trick, can you calculate how much money 40,000,000 illigals may cost our country?

so now with that said it would mean these criminals are the hugest criminal epedemic ever to hit the united states or maybe even in world history!!. but sure lets do exctly not a damn thing about it right??? sure dankie lets just let all these law breakers and criminals run free. hey fuck it they get a free pass to do illigal shit while im being busted left and right up down and sideways just to smoke this fucking shitty little plant!!!

fucking gov is a piece of shit. they let these criminals run around and then have the nerve to lock me up for smokin a plant!!

fuck this! i need to smoke

 

[7xstall]

Come on, admit it you do hate black people. I could tell by the way u talk and your sig is a quote from Robert Lee that gave it away it too.

Robert E. Lee was far from being a racist. there is too much historical fact for me to post in this thread about it, but, the real racists were fighting against Lee and the Confederacy that he defended.

i don't want to hijack this thread so just PM me if you're ready to come to terms with what the war of northern aggression was really about. i'll be glad to help.


"This war is not about slavery." - Robert E. Lee







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[dankie]

Again without facts, your arguments are mute. I have shown you the 5 ways of immigrating to the united states and 2 of the 5 are not allowed to Mexicans categorically. I have shown you in numerous ways how undocumnted workers pay into systems they will never use. I have shown you how the California agriculture industry would collapse if they were not there.

Further discussion of this topic is pointless. I understand what your opinions are, but without fact they are just opinions. Not true rebuttals.

 

[7xstall]

Again without facts, your arguments are mute. I have shown you the 5 ways of immigrating to the united states and 2 of the 5 are not allowed to Mexicans categorically. I have shown you in numerous ways how undocumnted workers pay into systems they will never use. I have shown you how the California agriculture industry would collapse if they were not there.

Further discussion of this topic is pointless. I understand what your opinions are, but without fact they are just opinions. Not true rebuttals.

you know what, if the farmers in Cali built their industry on the backs of criminals that's their problem, let it collapse! undocumented, criminal workers use all the same systems that legal citizens use. last i checked they go to emergency rooms (often), they use our roads, they send their kids to our schools and deplete extra resources because their parents don't even try to help with speaking English, they certainly make use of our criminal justice system.

close the border, keep the criminals out! severely punish the criminals who hire the alien criminals!!






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