FIRST GROW - More Then I Can Handle
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GibbsIt89
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hey ya everythings the same as my last post pretty much other then today i grabbed some pipe cleaners and LST'd "Number One", "Number Four", "Ashley" (bent right over 90 degrees
), and a couple clones under the 400watt (which mind u were "monster cropped" becuz i took the clones when the plants were sexed/flowered)i plan to start flowering in a week or so, will post pics and notify of next move. im going to flower under the 1000watt MH on a light mover for the first 2 weeks so they get that full stretch in, then i'll put the 1000watt HPS up and away we go.
after i harvest i am keeping a couple mothers and cutting some clones off every strain, i then plan to buy a table and drill some holes for a flood and drain setup with the water pump i already have, then i will keep a steady SOG going with big rockwool cubes.
bckiller12
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+rep ALL DAY. Is this your first grow? Couldn't be!!
GibbsIt89
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ya man, long story short.. i had an appartment, started growing 3 in one recycle bin with 2 CFLs, got a 400watt MH from a friend but didnt use it yet, moved, got rid of 2, topped the one remaining and LST'd the shit out of it (pic below).. then i go all the other lights from the same friend, and expanded hardcore haha. the only plants ive flowered are 2 autogrower's and that was just to to c what i could do my first time flowering.
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reggaerican
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whats up there gibbs, im just stopping in to say whats up and see how the grow is going..
GibbsIt89
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so technically "bckiller12" is right.. this would be my second grow if you include me flowering those autogrowers... but to me that was just an experiment. i got just under a half ounce between the two of them.. so i have absolutely plenty to learn. i did however learn ALOT over the past few months, i signed on here in july.. and this is the only place i have learnt everything from.. the rest was just common sense to me in the beginning.. light, reflection of that light, soil, food, space, and air.
GibbsIt89
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hey guys so ive bin having a REALLY hard time trying to figure out WTF to do for my next grow, aswell as prepare myself. SO many options!
What i think i am going to do is buy a "Secret Jardin" grow tent. I want 3 of them for each light so i can do idividual set ups and give myself lots of options in the future aswell. I am first going to purchase the smallest one for my cloneing area.. i am going to use the 45 LED grow panel on top for transfering & vegging my clones, then T5s and CFLs available for the cloneing dome, can set that up a couple different ways. I am not sure how many clones i will need for what but it'll be there when the time comes. The grow tent will be around 3'x3'x6' and will cost me about $200-$230 shipped. They want $300 plus tax im pretty sure at my local grow shop so F-that. But i dont mind spending around $200 for one.
MY GROW PLAN (for now):
its second day of harvest under the 1000watt MH, going to switch to HPS after 2 weeks, hopefully from what im told this will help with the stretch. i am feeding them Veg. nutes for these first two weeks of flower as this is how my nutrient chart has it set up for soil/soiless mix:
-ROOTING- Seedlings & Cuttings -(1/8 strength) Gro A&B, DNF Green.
-WEEK 1- Veg - (1/4 strength) Gro A&B, Veg Fortifier, DNF Green, DNF Black.
-WEEK 2- Veg - (1/2 strength) Gro A&B, Veg Fort., DNF Black, DNF Gold,
DNF Green (as foliar spray from now on if needed to correct yellowing leaves)
-WEEK 1- FLW- (same as WEEK 2 of VEG)
-WEEK 2- FLW - (same as WEEK 2 of VEG)
-WEEK 3- FLW - Bloom A&B, Bloom Fort., Carbo Logic, DNF Green,
DNF Gold (ALSO could be used as a foliar spray to increase bud sites)
-WEEK 4- FLW - (same as WEEK 3 of FLW)
- option leach between week 4-5 with DNF Clear (FLUSH)
-WEEK 5- FLW - (same as WEEK 3 of FLW)
-WEEK 6- FLW - (same as WEEK 3 of FLW)
-WEEK 7- FLW - (same as WEEK 3 of FLW)
-WEEK 8- FLUSH
-WEEK 9- FLUSH & continue till finish
What I'm Flowering (1000watt on 6' light mover rail):
-G13 (Big plant - going to cut a clone in flower to save strain)
-SH-Early (Big plant - going to cut a clone in flower to save strain)
-Sour Diesel (Big plant - going to cut a clone in flower to save strain)
-Deformed (clone) (Only clone/plant - going to cut a clone in flower to save strain)
-Number One (Mother plant - had to chop top due to spider mites, flowering bottom, taking clones)
-(1) Number One (Clones - monster cropped & LST'd)
What I'm Vegging (400watt MH, 3' wide dome reflector):
-Number Four (Big plant - dont have enough room to flower so keeping as a mother i guess)
-Ashley (Big plant - had outside for temp. drop to kill spider mites, needs to re-veg.)
-(4) Number One (Clones - monster cropped & LST'd)
-(1) Peppy Le Purple (Only clone/plant - monster cropped & LST'd)
-(1) Number Four (Clone - monster cropped & LST'd)
-SOON TO COME- (3+) clones : Sour Diesel, SH-Early, G13.. then more from #1 & #4
SO when the time comes to harvest, i will then flower the 6 plants that are currently vegging, cut new clones and replace them. From there i'm not sure what im going to do. i have to settle on a set up. i have bin thinking about a couple different options.. i could continue with soil and pots, do 9 big plants in a sort of SOG style.. or break it down to more plants but smaller ones, if i decided to do this it wouldn't cost me anything extra except mayb more soil, or the od right sized pot. OR i could do a "waterfarm 8" setup.. i found online for like $350-$400.. not sure if i will have that much money but the idea of "waterfarms" period n e ways, can buy them idividually for like $40 which i have thought about introducing to growing my mothers faster if i did SOG lol (so many options), i was introduced to a thread on them, seems like a very simple/successful method. Or a flood and drain SOG with 4" rockwool cubes, or like Reggae is doing, a flood and drain SOG but aeroponic clones on the side and using baskets instead of rockwool.. im not sure yet. Which ever i can afford to start working towards. IMO i think the flood and drain SOG will be the most expensive, thats the shitty thing becuz this is what i kinda had my heart set out for. i want as much bud as possible as often as possible without going crazy with any more lights.. just a small (hopefully simple) setup, but a thorough and successful one
. i got some good lights already so.
SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED. I will post pics soon i promise, just lazy, i have to take them then go about resizing etc. etc. its annoying.
What i think i am going to do is buy a "Secret Jardin" grow tent. I want 3 of them for each light so i can do idividual set ups and give myself lots of options in the future aswell. I am first going to purchase the smallest one for my cloneing area.. i am going to use the 45 LED grow panel on top for transfering & vegging my clones, then T5s and CFLs available for the cloneing dome, can set that up a couple different ways. I am not sure how many clones i will need for what but it'll be there when the time comes. The grow tent will be around 3'x3'x6' and will cost me about $200-$230 shipped. They want $300 plus tax im pretty sure at my local grow shop so F-that. But i dont mind spending around $200 for one.
MY GROW PLAN (for now):
its second day of harvest under the 1000watt MH, going to switch to HPS after 2 weeks, hopefully from what im told this will help with the stretch. i am feeding them Veg. nutes for these first two weeks of flower as this is how my nutrient chart has it set up for soil/soiless mix:
-ROOTING- Seedlings & Cuttings -(1/8 strength) Gro A&B, DNF Green.
-WEEK 1- Veg - (1/4 strength) Gro A&B, Veg Fortifier, DNF Green, DNF Black.
-WEEK 2- Veg - (1/2 strength) Gro A&B, Veg Fort., DNF Black, DNF Gold,
DNF Green (as foliar spray from now on if needed to correct yellowing leaves)
-WEEK 1- FLW- (same as WEEK 2 of VEG)
-WEEK 2- FLW - (same as WEEK 2 of VEG)
-WEEK 3- FLW - Bloom A&B, Bloom Fort., Carbo Logic, DNF Green,
DNF Gold (ALSO could be used as a foliar spray to increase bud sites)
-WEEK 4- FLW - (same as WEEK 3 of FLW)
- option leach between week 4-5 with DNF Clear (FLUSH)
-WEEK 5- FLW - (same as WEEK 3 of FLW)
-WEEK 6- FLW - (same as WEEK 3 of FLW)
-WEEK 7- FLW - (same as WEEK 3 of FLW)
-WEEK 8- FLUSH
-WEEK 9- FLUSH & continue till finish
What I'm Flowering (1000watt on 6' light mover rail):
-G13 (Big plant - going to cut a clone in flower to save strain)
-SH-Early (Big plant - going to cut a clone in flower to save strain)
-Sour Diesel (Big plant - going to cut a clone in flower to save strain)
-Deformed (clone) (Only clone/plant - going to cut a clone in flower to save strain)
-Number One (Mother plant - had to chop top due to spider mites, flowering bottom, taking clones)
-(1) Number One (Clones - monster cropped & LST'd)
What I'm Vegging (400watt MH, 3' wide dome reflector):
-Number Four (Big plant - dont have enough room to flower so keeping as a mother i guess)
-Ashley (Big plant - had outside for temp. drop to kill spider mites, needs to re-veg.)
-(4) Number One (Clones - monster cropped & LST'd)
-(1) Peppy Le Purple (Only clone/plant - monster cropped & LST'd)
-(1) Number Four (Clone - monster cropped & LST'd)
-SOON TO COME- (3+) clones : Sour Diesel, SH-Early, G13.. then more from #1 & #4
SO when the time comes to harvest, i will then flower the 6 plants that are currently vegging, cut new clones and replace them. From there i'm not sure what im going to do. i have to settle on a set up. i have bin thinking about a couple different options.. i could continue with soil and pots, do 9 big plants in a sort of SOG style.. or break it down to more plants but smaller ones, if i decided to do this it wouldn't cost me anything extra except mayb more soil, or the od right sized pot. OR i could do a "waterfarm 8" setup.. i found online for like $350-$400.. not sure if i will have that much money but the idea of "waterfarms" period n e ways, can buy them idividually for like $40 which i have thought about introducing to growing my mothers faster if i did SOG lol (so many options), i was introduced to a thread on them, seems like a very simple/successful method. Or a flood and drain SOG with 4" rockwool cubes, or like Reggae is doing, a flood and drain SOG but aeroponic clones on the side and using baskets instead of rockwool.. im not sure yet. Which ever i can afford to start working towards. IMO i think the flood and drain SOG will be the most expensive, thats the shitty thing becuz this is what i kinda had my heart set out for. i want as much bud as possible as often as possible without going crazy with any more lights.. just a small (hopefully simple) setup, but a thorough and successful one
. i got some good lights already so.SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED. I will post pics soon i promise, just lazy, i have to take them then go about resizing etc. etc. its annoying.
BusterBawls
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Been away a whole. Nice job! You have a lot going on there! Just pulled 100 clones off of 3 1foot plants. Topped the fuck out of em to get than many. They look like bonsai trees! I'm still noited about postin my phone pics on here. But I can send em. Got harvest ones too! Got about 26oz last time going for 50 now. Got many many improvements and equipment upgrades. A complete CO2 setup as well! Check out my old post for more detail.
BusterBawls
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P.s dude I just got 26oz out of a 4x10 closet space using my custom aero/nft system. And now that I have ironed out all the bumps, I'm shooting for 50oz and I'm the the brightest bulb, but I kno it can and will be done with the system and the space I have especially with CO2. I also have NO Mothers! No veg room! All my clones are takes from 2week flowered clones and Veged in rockwool domes. By the time my plants are ready for harvest my clones are dying to get in the flower room. So considering the space you have, and a larger identical setup I have, you could pull many more than 50oz every 8-10 weeks!!! Let me kno if u need any help.
reggaerican
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whats up gibbs? now your on the right path bro!! im liking the new plans, the tent for your moms and clones will be a good idea, but dont waist your money on 2 bro they could be all in the same tent since the light cycle will be the same... then you will have more money to invest in other stuff you really need...
dveight
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I agree, but at the same time they got some cheap cheap tents on ebay that are really high quality, so depending on how deep he wants to get it might be a good idea to get 2
lookin great man, i cant wait for your harvest!
GibbsIt89
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so i should get one tent for my:
-400watt (3' wide reflector dome)
-LED panel (45watts, 45 1watt LEDs, 1'x1'x2")
-2' t5s
- mayb some CFLs
in a 3'x3'x6' tent? i mean i could get a bigger one but then my LED panel wont be as effective.. like i said i figure 3 for each light for a seperate setup for down the road if i cant have all the lights running at one place. but it does make sense to have mothers and clones in the same room for easy access. mayb i will make some adjustments for the time being.. but i still do want 3 seperate tents. i have a flower bulb for the 400, and the LED panel is dual spectrum so i can flower with it aswell (compared to a 250watt HID)
GibbsIt89
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thats pretty dope man ya so many different ways to do things i appreciate any suggestions/help i can get. this is the thing tho:
I ONLY HAVE UNTIL JULY TO GROW AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!! (trying to make it longer, but i need a proposal)
and that being with the equipment i pretty much already have (dont want to waste too much money on a huge set up when i have to split it up later). ive bin looking hard into the "waterfarms". im suppose to be moving out in july. This is why i want 3 grow tents, then i can grow at a few places cuz i will probably end up in an appartment or a townhouse and i dont want to draw attention.. we will c what happends, but ya i really need to figure out the next grow, again i need as much harvested weed as i can get in by july 2011. HELP! lol..
reggaerican
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good job on the edit bro, safty first.. and whats this about july, you have to move? dam that sucks! just start cloning a shit load of plants bro and flower them bitches in pots for now... with your space you can set up a monster perpetual and harvest many pounds by july... personally if i were you i would take up as little space as you can for your clones,veg and moms, that way you could flower lots more... i do all mine in a 4x4 area...
dveight
Active Member
have you checked this out gibbs?
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/258474-homemade-co2-guide.html
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/258474-homemade-co2-guide.html
BusterBawls
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Got my bud porn up finally. https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/361725-orange-crush-grow-aero-nft.html
rene112388
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Haha hey gibbs what's up going to have to get back to this thread later if I wish to comprehend a thing
Megalith
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LIGHTING
(1) 1000 watt hps ballast (brand new)
(1) 1000 watt mh ballast
(1) 400 watt mh ballast
(2) 1000 watt hps bulbs (1 brand new)
(1) 1000 watt mh cold bulb (7200k spectrum, brand new)
(1) 400 watt mh warm bulb (3200k spectrum, brand new)
(1) 400 watt mh cold bulb
(2) 400 watt mh cold bulbs (7200k spectrum, brand new)
(2) 24 watt t5 tubes (6400k spectrum, brand new)
(2) 26 watt cfl bulbs (6400k spectrum, brand new)
(1) 45 watt LED grow panel (compared to 250watt HID)
wow. I'm sub'd dude
(1) 1000 watt hps ballast (brand new)
(1) 1000 watt mh ballast
(1) 400 watt mh ballast
(2) 1000 watt hps bulbs (1 brand new)
(1) 1000 watt mh cold bulb (7200k spectrum, brand new)
(1) 400 watt mh warm bulb (3200k spectrum, brand new)
(1) 400 watt mh cold bulb
(2) 400 watt mh cold bulbs (7200k spectrum, brand new)
(2) 24 watt t5 tubes (6400k spectrum, brand new)
(2) 26 watt cfl bulbs (6400k spectrum, brand new)
(1) 45 watt LED grow panel (compared to 250watt HID)
wow. I'm sub'd dude