Fatty R Buckle
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I was under the impression that guys like Neville & Shanti bred better strains so we didnt have to smoke stuff like that anymore..
30ish Yr old Columbian Gold Seed Sprouts. Do I Want it to be a Male or Female?
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pointswest
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You are under the wrong impression. You can't make comparisons unless you have sampled them all.
Dizzle Frost
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if its a girl ...in my opinion id try to find a perfect strain and cube it back for seeds...you wont get 100% of what you started with but pretty damn close.
DaLeftHandMan
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i guess your asking which is better here to have to begin with, the chicken or the egg? lol..thats a tuffy, but i feel like, you would do much better, preparing and planting for the future, then enjoy it and being greedy now. im sure you have alot of life left, why not leave a legacy?
wil2279
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I would almost always say you are better off to have it be a female. if you want to try to make it hermi, you can always take cutting from it and try to make one of the clones hermi. I honestly wouldn't really want to use pollen from a hermi plant though. The hermi gene just isn't somthing that is a popular trait even if the bud is awesome. I would say that you should hope for a female and take some cutting from her. That way at the very least you could say that you were smoking authentic CG from the late 70's early 80's. Ya never know, it might just take you back to the good old days when you were a kid and things were simple. I know I wish I was a kid again.
Timmahh
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TY for all the excellent info so far. so i have figured.
you cant really determin sex, just manipulate the female.
So it grows until it can be sexed.
at this point if its a Male, I ll seperate and keep it in veg until i am prepaired to take pollen. ofcourse, i have alot to learn on this before that time is near, which i suspect wont be all to long in the future. ofcourse any info to help maintain it is FUlly accepted and appreciated.
If its a female, she ll be a slut. i ll get her vegging, and keep her vegging for cuts for the time being.
i know their is ALOT of options, but i would like to see about keeping it as most pure C Gold trait if possible. considering i only have one, which ever sex it is, id need a pure strain of the ohter sex to break for pure natural seeds. which is what i would Prefer to do. but if nothing exist pure i can bread with, then i ll have to look at making some Intelligent crosses at that point.
So for a quick sum it up. let it show sex, keep it alive beforr, during, and after, and out of bud atleast for the time being. lol
Keep the info/chat coming, am learning much and finding a path forward.
im not a greedy person, but i wouldnt want to see the strain watered down so to speak. so as i move forward with it. as long as it lives and is viable, i do plan on sharing intelligently. whether its a male or a female.
today at 5pm after i got back from running around.
almost an inch of stem growth in 8 hrs. you can say its growing like a WEED> lol
btw, its under a 400w CMH Philips Retro White bulb.
you cant really determin sex, just manipulate the female.
So it grows until it can be sexed.
at this point if its a Male, I ll seperate and keep it in veg until i am prepaired to take pollen. ofcourse, i have alot to learn on this before that time is near, which i suspect wont be all to long in the future. ofcourse any info to help maintain it is FUlly accepted and appreciated.
If its a female, she ll be a slut. i ll get her vegging, and keep her vegging for cuts for the time being.
i know their is ALOT of options, but i would like to see about keeping it as most pure C Gold trait if possible. considering i only have one, which ever sex it is, id need a pure strain of the ohter sex to break for pure natural seeds. which is what i would Prefer to do. but if nothing exist pure i can bread with, then i ll have to look at making some Intelligent crosses at that point.
So for a quick sum it up. let it show sex, keep it alive beforr, during, and after, and out of bud atleast for the time being. lol
Keep the info/chat coming, am learning much and finding a path forward.
im not a greedy person, but i wouldnt want to see the strain watered down so to speak. so as i move forward with it. as long as it lives and is viable, i do plan on sharing intelligently. whether its a male or a female.
today at 5pm after i got back from running around.
almost an inch of stem growth in 8 hrs. you can say its growing like a WEED> lol
btw, its under a 400w CMH Philips Retro White bulb.
wil2279
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This is a little bit of an interesting thread and I don't know a lot of this plant's history,, but I am willing to bet that there are old school breeders that still have some old school strains in their origional form. Besides that... even today's breeders are searching the globe for wild landrace genetics and it isn't like you are going to have a more original strain than one mother nature created herself. So while this is an interesting thread, i find it quite odd that people are speaking of it like someone just found the lost arc and is reclaiming something that has long since been diluted and lost.
Timmahh
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good post Wil. Im not sure how probable a Pure line of 70s/80s lumbo gold is. which is why im asking here. Seems to be many old shool guys from that time, who can help with great info, and im hopeing help confirm its a true lumbo gold strain. i did have a couple types of seeds stored, but im 99.9% positive this storeage only had the 2 possibilities. the Lumbos or the hawaian.
main reason im so intrigued by the possiblity is if the strain is Long Hidden/Gone, then this could indeed be a real blast from the days of pure strains, which i think would/could be very desirable.
main reason im so intrigued by the possiblity is if the strain is Long Hidden/Gone, then this could indeed be a real blast from the days of pure strains, which i think would/could be very desirable.
pointswest
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Make sure to have at least one rooted cutting before flowering regardless of sex, male or female.
Wil2279--obviously you have never experienced this heirloom variety, and yes it has long since been diluted and lost.
Wil2279--obviously you have never experienced this heirloom variety, and yes it has long since been diluted and lost.
Timmahh
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good idea. will do.
Timmahh
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ok, New ? i need to deal with transplanting the seed from the zippy dom to a pot.
I have FF Happy Frog dirt, outside soil from the yard (mostly a Sandy soil) some Vermiculite (somewhat fine) and i can get some PM BK i think it is my buddy has.
currently its in some fluff from a zippy peat pot in the zippy tray. i can put it into a 5 in pot, or a 3gal pot. which is better for now? im leaning to the 3g bucket?
considering the only thing the lineage of the seed knows about hydroponics was when it had water poured out of a bucket on it, and artificial lighting happened at night when someone was trying to pilfer a few budz. heh.
i figure the mother and its whole strain was last growing in the mountains in columbia. so what would be my best option/choice for a soil for this baby?
heres a pic as of a few minutes ago. approximatly 60ish hrs after grounded.
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I have FF Happy Frog dirt, outside soil from the yard (mostly a Sandy soil) some Vermiculite (somewhat fine) and i can get some PM BK i think it is my buddy has.
currently its in some fluff from a zippy peat pot in the zippy tray. i can put it into a 5 in pot, or a 3gal pot. which is better for now? im leaning to the 3g bucket?
considering the only thing the lineage of the seed knows about hydroponics was when it had water poured out of a bucket on it, and artificial lighting happened at night when someone was trying to pilfer a few budz. heh.
i figure the mother and its whole strain was last growing in the mountains in columbia. so what would be my best option/choice for a soil for this baby?
heres a pic as of a few minutes ago. approximatly 60ish hrs after grounded.
T
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Johnnyorganic
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You can't MAKE shit.
You get what you get.
Good luck and good growing.
You get what you get.
Good luck and good growing.
sso
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you got something like that and you were going to stress it to try to induce becoming a male or female?!
wether it should become a male or female, would depend on wether you liked that smoke or not, mixing a male with anything else would never give you that true smoke (though sure would be interesting crosses) while the female could be cloned for a long time And give you interesting crosses as well. and perhaps even later down the line if luck would have it and legalization opening up "borders" and borders (lol)
you might come across a male.
besides, as i was recently reminded when i was in nam last year, smoking a true sativa for the first time in a decade.
the sativas are sorely lacking today, mostly all we got are indicas and hybrids, none of which give that same high. not truely. the indica and hybrids have their place, but so has the sativa. luckily i was able to bring back about 50 seeds from the bags i bought over there though (3 months stay) despite poor germination, out of 20 seeds i tried and 10 i gave away, only 1 came up, think its a female. i hope so.
would be interesting to know if the columbian landraces, acopulco gold sounds interesting,are still grown there, probably.
would probably be fairly easy to score some seeds over there, if you were of the right disposition.
wether it should become a male or female, would depend on wether you liked that smoke or not, mixing a male with anything else would never give you that true smoke (though sure would be interesting crosses) while the female could be cloned for a long time And give you interesting crosses as well. and perhaps even later down the line if luck would have it and legalization opening up "borders" and borders (lol)
you might come across a male.
besides, as i was recently reminded when i was in nam last year, smoking a true sativa for the first time in a decade.
the sativas are sorely lacking today, mostly all we got are indicas and hybrids, none of which give that same high. not truely. the indica and hybrids have their place, but so has the sativa. luckily i was able to bring back about 50 seeds from the bags i bought over there though (3 months stay) despite poor germination, out of 20 seeds i tried and 10 i gave away, only 1 came up, think its a female. i hope so.
would be interesting to know if the columbian landraces, acopulco gold sounds interesting,are still grown there, probably.
would probably be fairly easy to score some seeds over there, if you were of the right disposition.
samljer
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hermie that shit and self pollinate for some feminized seed lol.as the title states. I have a sprout that is from a 30ish year old Columbian Gold seed.
My first question is would it be better (as far as genetics go) to get this to become a male, so their is access to Pure C Gold Male Pollen from 30 plus yrs ago?
or would it be better to make it a Slut, and take cuts from here for the next few years?
please help me determine the best gender for this sprout, and please explain why you feel like you do on the M or F issue.
as of today at 10am, its been grounded for 48 hrs and is at 24 hrs of actual sprout.
Timmahh