How to tighten up buds

medicineman

medicineman

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I'm looking for an answer to the loose bud question. It seems my buds dont want to compress into tight buds. What am I doing wrong> I use a 400W HPS, a bubbler, only mature 2-3 plants, feed them Nutes from week 3 to a couple a weeks before harvest, starting at 250PPM and going to 1600PPM and backing down mid way to 0 again. I maintain a PH between 5.5-6.5 and have everything on a timer, with plenty of areation. The buds will just not tighten up. Am I harvesting too soon. I harvest when the trichs are half amber and half milky. The potentcy is excellent but the weight sucks. Should I leave them untill all the trichs are amber? Help!!
 
FaCultGen

FaCultGen

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lol you have 5600 posts and you don't know the answer to that?

it's prolly the temp in your room. if its hot, the buds will be lose and if you coll it down to 70-75 they willl tighten up.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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LaMafia Bak420 said:
how many plants are u growing under 400 from the pics seems like u got 30 mother plants lol
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Actually, What you see there is just one White widow that has exceeded the grow area, I have a couple of Thai plants growing there also, I have already harvested the WW. These are pics of the Thai plants, there are two that are tangled together. I have the nutes down to about 180PPM, 5.8PH and prolific bubbling. The trichs are still clear and the hairs are still white.
 

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potroast

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Yeah, either heat, or more likely humidity. With bubblers splashing there may be too high humidity, and that can make for spongy bud. Or else not enough light. That lamp will light a 2.5 x 2.5 foot area well enough for tight buds. The next question is how old is the lamp.

HTH :mrgreen:
 
jsgrwn

jsgrwn

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if it is too hot that will do it, or if there is no fresh air coming in where the buds are. a mix of the 2 would cause real fluffy budz. late
 
medicineman

medicineman

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FaCultGen said:
lol you have 5600 posts and you don't know the answer to that?

it's prolly the temp in your room. if its hot, the buds will be lose and if you coll it down to 70-75 they willl tighten up.
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Yup, I'm just a dumb ass. Although about 4995 of those posts were in the political section, Growing pot is only a hobby, I'm not counting on it for my next house payment. So you're saying if I lower the grow area temp to 70-75 the buds will tighten up. I'll give it a try, thanks. Kind of like how a person wraps their arms around themselves when they are naked and cold, Maybe I should cut the light for a couple a days, what do ya think about that?
 
medicineman

medicineman

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potroast said:
Yeah, either heat, or more likely humidity. With bubblers splashing there may be too high humidity, and that can make for spongy bud. Or else not enough light. That lamp will light a 2.5 x 2.5 foot area well enough for tight buds. The next question is how old is the lamp.

HTH :mrgreen:
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Lamp is less than a year old and is a version of the agri with both spectrums. The temps range from 27 in the daytime to 20 at night 68-80, I do have a good breeze blowing accross the top of the plants and right under the light into an exhaust fan exhausting into my attic, for cooling and smell control, seems to work pretty well. I keep the plants around 8-10 inches from the light, I can definently hold my hand there. The bubbler liquid is around 70 degrees and my grow space is 2ft x 3ft X 6ft Outside of the 80 degree temp at the top of my plants, I think I'm in the ballpark. Oh yeah, and I keep the area wide open and the fan moves 72 cubic feet per minute, that is twice the total cubic ft. of my entire grow area, so I think that should answer the fresh air question. What about cutting the light for a couple a days, would that help? I'm wondering if I may be harvesting too soon and not allowing the plants to fully mature. I'm gonna let these go untill all the trichs are amber. What happens if you let them stay on the vine too long?
 
FaCultGen

FaCultGen

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whtas the temp in thje room? how far are the lights from the tops of the plants? how many days flowering are they at?
 
natmoon

natmoon

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I have my 400 watt about 8" away from the tops during budding but i have to be careful in case of tip burn and keep a good eye on them.
I also only grow in soil and leave the plants in small pots until they are root/pot bound to achieve a tight root ball so that i get tight nuggets.
I have no proof of this as a fact but its what i do and my buds are always hard:blsmoke:
 
cali-high

cali-high

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you need to you humboldt,co nutes i had the same problem i use gravity the last week and the buds are tight and dense
 
BIGMIKE13

BIGMIKE13

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sativas will be less dense then indicas.

if you have more of a sativa hybrid expect loose buds, this is not a bad thing...:blsmoke:
 
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