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stelthy

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BudBaby said:
I did rinse them but maybe not as much as i should, i did consider this was the problem. I just rinsed them until all the black dirt came out of them.

The place i got my nuites from sells clay balls also and theres are meant to be the best on the market and are not meant to affect ph so ill order some of those when i transfer the girls to the flower cabinet. They seem to be loving this light though:)

I have been using canna start for these girls which is just a very light nuit mix for little seedlings, when its used up though i may just stick to ph balanced water if it will do the trick for the first 2-3 weeks.

Thanks for the advice dude.
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Ah looks like you have it sorted...CANNA Start is ok to use, but its personal choice...Maybe try using it on just 2 of your vegging ladies and let the other 2 vegging plants just have PH balanced, then you can record the results and compare your findings :) ?!! - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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stelthy

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BudBaby said:
Cheers for all that mate, so ill probably be looking at swaping to veg nuites at about the 2 week stage? I take it i just take the basckets out of the buckets, empty them and then fill with veg solution?

I have also been looking at these http://shop.aquakoiaquatics.com/elite-air-curtain-air-diffusers---38-cm-1296-p.asp From what i gather there pretty silent, i may switch to these on my next grow.
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Do your DWC buckets have 'drain valves' ? you may be able to remove the net pots and change the water whilst the plants are only seedlings but its not good practice...I mean when the plants are mature, the root system will go nutz!!! and you will most likely not be able to remove the net pot in this way. I'll look about n see if I can find a helpful video on how to do a water change in your style DWC buckets. I'll check out the LINK in a sec :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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Thanks dude. All the have is an inspection hole.

I have got that syphon pump but it didnt work very well and took for ever. I wonder if i could get a small electric pump or something like that?
 
stelthy

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I think it looks like a good idea (LINK) but I think as with almost all the air diffusers etc they run fairly quietly on their own, but say for eg/ Like you ; You'll have 8 of them all running together in seperate pots and thats how the sound is made noticible, you could use some kind of water proof'd foam as a mat to stand all the pots on...That should remove most, if not all the vibrations another option is you can use air-line controllers to slow the speed the air is given to the DWC pots at, and this will also quieten the noise of water/air movement... You could run the VEG DWC air-lines at a reduced speed since there is less/fewer roots occupying the space in the buckets and then only run the FLOWERING DWC Air-lines on full or at an excellerated speed...

Hope thats helpful dude - STELTHY :leaf:
 
stelthy

stelthy

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BudBaby said:
Thanks dude. All the have is an inspection hole.

I have got that syphon pump but it didnt work very well and took for ever. I wonder if i could get a small electric pump or something like that?
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A small electric pump would work great, let me know if you find a good/in-expensive/quiet one, cos I know what you mean about the syphon/billage pump, it takes forever and makes your hands ache n I am only using 2X 10L buckets..

I'll have a look to n see what I can come up with :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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Ok mate thats great. Just had a quick look and found these on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/250W-SUBMERSIBLE-DIRTY-WATER-FLOOD-PUMP-10M-FLAT-HOSE-/260732054176?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PondsWaterFeatures_UK&hash=item3cb4d76aa0

Not sure if its suitable, i def want a pump though as anything that makes life easier and means i dont have to disturb the plants is worth the investment. Ill have a better look after and im sure between us we can come up with something. Not sure if that one above is to powerfull.

I lost my rag with my siphon pump lol, it would work for a bit then stop and i took me for ever to fill just one bucket lol.
 
stelthy

stelthy

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BudBaby said:
Ok mate thats great. Just had a quick look and found these on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/250W-SUBMERSIBLE-DIRTY-WATER-FLOOD-PUMP-10M-FLAT-HOSE-/260732054176?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PondsWaterFeatures_UK&hash=item3cb4d76aa0

Not sure if its suitable, i def want a pump though as anything that makes life easier and means i dont have to disturb the plants is worth the investment. Ill have a better look after and im sure between us we can come up with something. Not sure if that one above is to powerfull.

I lost my rag with my siphon pump lol, it would work for a bit then stop and i took me for ever to fill just one bucket lol.
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Too true, anything that improves a job is worth doing! I wouldn't have thought it would have to be all that powerfull since the one in the LINK above says for cleaning out spa's etc :) I modded my syphon/billage pump.. and glued all the connections to stop it leaking, but I fully welcome a nice electic pump, that sure would be cool :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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I have just emailed a pump place and asked what they would suggest for what we need it for. Obvioulsy i didnt mention dwc or cannabis lmao!!

Those air curtains look the business mate, i may see how cash flow looks and get them as i transfer the girls over to the flower cab if thats possible, not sure if i will swap the ladies to fresh buckets or just move the current buckets to the flower cab?. They are meant to be silent, have weights to hold them down so no air discs coming away and there easy to clean as you go along. Plus if i got 2 small ones for each bucket you can shape them how you want to get a nice even bubble distribution.
 
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I forgot to say as the board was down yesterday that i have got 4 in there now mate, another one had popped aswell but never mind. I looked at the 2 seeds that hadnt germed and when i took them out of the rockwool they had both cracked but hardly anything was coming out of them.

Ive been working on the noise this morning, one pump(flower cab) is louder than the other one? The one in the veg cab is virtually silent yet the one in the flower cab seems to vibrate more. Im wondering if its because i have more stuff in the flower cab at the top?

Its not so much its really loud its the fact i cant work out why its louder than the other one vibration wise. I have 3 sound proof tiles under it plus an extra 2 layers of fat mat plus a layer of underlay and its still ouder than the veg cab one which has only got got 3 lots of foam?
 
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I have tried everything with this pump and it is still alot louder than yesterday before i put the 4th bucket on, its fairly loud now right underneath it downstairs:( I have even added 2 folded up towels underneath it, i cant fit anything else under there without it touching the roof:!!!

I am going to add 4 layers of underlay to the flower cab tomorrw and see if that deadens it at all, im hoping it will do. If not i was thinking some heavy duty foam but saying that ive got it now on 3 coundproof foam tiles and 2 folded towels!!

The most anoying aspect it that i cant figure out why its louder, the other pump vibrates much less and so did this one before i hooked it up to the 4th bucket, thats the only thing i can think of that may have caused it.

I think i have got negative pressure in the veg cab as it keeps making a loud woodwind type noise if that makes sense lol, its def the doors as i have pulled it back very very slightly(no visable light leak) and it has solved that problem.
 
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I have just ordered 6 sound deadening tiles. They are heavy duty and made form 32kg special acoustic foam. I said my mises grew orchids lol just so he had an idea of what i was up against noise wise. He said he cant garantee they will completely take the noise away but he did say they should be better than my egg carton foam which he said is more for keep noise in than taking it away.
 
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I have got the noise sorted for now, its the actual 8 way manifold thats really vibrating so i have elevated it a little with some towels and its alot better. Ill still use these soundproof pads though as i think with those it will be pretty silent.

Glad its sorted, neighbour was on facebook this morning saying he couldnt sleep last night. Im probably just being paranoid but his bed virtually backs on to the cabs!!

Lights have just come on so ill take some pics tomorrow as they look better with lights off. The first one i put in there is now showing a root coming out of the basket and starting to go into the liquid:) I just hope i can sort a pump to use for changing to veg.
 
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http://www.sheridanmarine.com/product/rule-inline-water-pump-il200p

These dont look bad, just emailed them to see if they will suit my needs and how exactly they work.

I have just seen a guy do a nuit change on youtube and he just took the basket out, put it in another bucket making sure he didnt trap any roots or damage them. He then just emptied the bucket and cleaned it and refilled it.

I may do it this way to start with as cash is tight and his plants had mega big roots, i figure ill only have to do it twice, once to change to veg nuites and once to change to flowering nuites. After that ill just leave the buckets until there nearly empty and keep topping them up.
 
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I have just changed buckets for the big seedling and put it onto veg week 1. The guide said i should have ec at 1.5 but i have done it at 1.4 and ill see how they go, i added a teaspoon of superthrive also:)

A couple of seedlings have a little bit of nute burn i think, very tips of the baby leaves are a little brown/yellow, it hasnt seemed to affect the true leaves though so ill keep an eye on them.
 
stelthy

stelthy

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BudBaby said:
I have just changed buckets for the big seedling and put it onto veg week 1. The guide said i should have ec at 1.5 but i have done it at 1.4 and ill see how they go, i added a teaspoon of superthrive also:)

A couple of seedlings have a little bit of nute burn i think, very tips of the baby leaves are a little brown/yellow, it hasnt seemed to affect the true leaves though so ill keep an eye on them.
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A tea-spoon of 'Super-Thrive' ?? That stuff is super powerful, a few drops should be enough.. let me know how that goes.. I mean its always ok to slightly up the dosage later on in Flower but whilst the girls are young I'd be extra careful, nuit burn may occur so be careful!

I am just catching up on the rest of your posts :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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I just went by the bottle instructions mate it says 1/4 tsp per gallon and i have just over 4 gallon of liquid in there.

Ill try and get a decent close up picture of this plant with the funny markings on the leaves, i have done a bit of research and i think it may be mag deficency. Its not just on the tips there are slight markings on the main parts of the leaves also. They arent lagging or anything so i have lowered ph again and ill keep ay eye on them. I have noticed though that the affected plant still hasnt got a root coming out of the basket where the other one i have which is 24 hours behind it has?

My ph seems to creep up about 0.5 every 2 days so from now on im gonna use a starting ph of 5.2 and hopefully even with a rise it will stay within range for a few days.

The veg nuites lowered my ph slightly when i added them but i have got that stable at 5.9 now and wanting to follow the canna guide to the letter i added a tiny bit more of each nuit and got the ec bang on 1.5:)
 
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