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MixedMelodyMindBender said:
It's true tho :) I mean look at the $$$ they paid for a dream team and imo they got one. I personally like the phillies odd's this year. But then again, sometime when u get to many superstars on one team its all ego and no play :( Which I hope don't happen for philly fans :) Plus I am dying to see paplebon get a ring out of boston. I think that was a very bad move on bostons part and it would give karma justice to see paplebon have a place in that !
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yeah i was suprised as shit when we got paplebon and we despertly need a closer after last season when lidge got hurt we didnt really have anybody the bullpen did a great job thou
 
Amaximus said:
Almost forgot about the Rangers! I still think there ballpark is a nightmare for any starter but as far as the road goes they've got a nice one!
Lewis, Holland, Darvish, Harrison & Feliz.

Feliz is coming out of the bullpen so who knows if he'll be an efficient starter or not. And Darvish is promising but unproven IMO.

It's an interesting rotation though.

I don't even want to talk about the Mets starters.
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The mets scare me with there bullpen. They are hanging on their ace santana to pull them through IMO. I think METS pitching is suspect!
 
MixedMelodyMindBender said:
The mets scare me with there bullpen. They are hanging on their ace santana to pull them through IMO. I think METS pitching is suspect!
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The Mets starters are weird. Under the best possible circumstances Santana & Pelfrey are aces with Neise, Dickey & Gee being serviceable 3-5 pitchers possible of winning 12-16 games each.

But this is the Mets!

Santana will get hurt within 3 weeks, Pelfrey will shit on his own mechanics and lose 10 games straight while wracking up a 5.00+ ERA and the last 3 bozo's will prove to be as good as a Livan hernandez or jamie moyer.

I know those 2 scenarios are far apart but that's the way the Mets roll. They either blow everyone's expectations away, or they flouder on their faces while everything possible can go wrong.

As for the bullpen? After Ramirez & Parnell, They suck.

Lets go Mets!? =D
 
"Santana will get hurt in three weeks" EXACTLY what I was thinking :)

If I was a betting man, I would def not roll with the Mets! I just dont see any depth in the bullpen or anywhere else. If they do a cinderella story it will be from no names that step up and try to make a name for themselves. But I highly doubt that will happen. :)
 
MixedMelodyMindBender said:
"Santana will get hurt in three weeks" EXACTLY what I was thinking :)

If I was a betting man, I would def not roll with the Mets! I just dont see any depth in the bullpen or anywhere else. If they do a cinderella story it will be from no names that step up and try to make a name for themselves. But I highly doubt that will happen. :)
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But, But, But, They're my favorite team! I have no choice!


Oh! Nieuwenhuis just hit a 2 run dinger! Tied 3-3! I've gotta get back to this game. Lets go Mets!
 
The last time I busted a sox fans balls about Buckner or anything relating to a world series was 2004.
Since then I hold no pity party for Boston fans. The Mets still haven't won shit since '86! lol!

At least the sox won tonight. So did the Yanks though. So they're both 1-3. heh. (Aceves has to go! He is no closer)

Walk off win for the Metropolitans! 4-0! Lets see how long this lasts.
 
hornedfrog2000 said:
I just wanted to say this. The Tampa Bay rays might have one of the best rotations in the history of baseball. I cannot believe how sick every single starter they have is. Potential Ace starting every day. James Shields, David Price, Jeremey Hellickson, Matt Moore...
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Oh and froggy, You are correct the Rays have an amazing starting rotation. I held 6 fantasy baseball drafts this year. I think the Rays are the only team that every starting pitcher was drafted in every league.
 
Should be must see TV darvish's next start. He had some ridiculous ERA in Japan (1.99 career ERA), he's never had people hit off him like he did this first start... More far east hype gonna explode? That would be a pretty big blow to the Rangers if so.
 
Yeah good point! Imports don't tend to while in the American leagues. Idk what it is, but they arrive superstars, if they are lucky they will become a star at best.
 
As usual the Red Sox have half their starting line up on the DL. I was reading that the combined salaries of their players just on the DL is higher than that of the entire Florida Marlins team.
 
Yeah, well I would love to know how much money the marlins ownership has stuffed in their pockets the past 10 years. Couple that with the luxury tax they get from teams like the Yankees the fans should be pissed at the owners. Yankees don't even have the top 5 richest owners. Look at the pirates for fuck sake. Competition is going to get crazy in the next 5 years. Everyone is signing massive TV contracts. Texas just signed one, dodgers are going to, angels have, yankees have one.That's the only reason Angels could sign pujols. Sad as it is for me to say, but the Yankees massive salary advantage is over.
 
sonar said:
As usual the Red Sox have half their starting line up on the DL. I was reading that the combined salaries of their players just on the DL is higher than that of the entire Florida Marlins team.
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Which would be a fact! 2x LOL Idk what to make of the mess in boston any more. They have the people to make some noise or a last seed playoff stance, but who knows if they will get it going or not. I dont think anyone has a sure bet for boston. Hope they do well, looks like theres a odd better for disaster though.

I think the massive salary baseball ending is a great thing. I am a huge hockey fan. I witnessed this year the buffalo sabres have third highest salary cap and finish one spot out the playoff's. Picked up big dollar names that simply did not perform to those big dollars. Its about damn time that the team with the highest salary cap does'nt always win and should'nt imo.
 
MixedMelodyMindBender said:
Which would be a fact! 2x LOL Idk what to make of the mess in boston any more. They have the people to make some noise or a last seed playoff stance, but who knows if they will get it going or not. I dont think anyone has a sure bet for boston. Hope they do well, looks like theres a odd better for disaster though.
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I really didn't get why they signed crawford to that crazy ass contract only to stick him in that tiny left field ( a lot of his value was great defense in a huge center field), and the fact their offense was good enough. Pitching wins in the post season. They should have spent that money on bullpen/starters.
 
MixedMelodyMindBender said:
Which would be a fact! 2x LOL Idk what to make of the mess in boston any more. They have the people to make some noise or a last seed playoff stance, but who knows if they will get it going or not. I dont think anyone has a sure bet for boston. Hope they do well, looks like theres a odd better for disaster though.

I think the massive salary baseball ending is a great thing. I am a huge hockey fan. I witnessed this year the buffalo sabres have third highest salary cap and finish one spot out the playoff's. Picked up big dollar names that simply did not perform to those big dollars. Its about damn time that the team with the highest salary cap does'nt always win and should'nt imo.
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You can buy players, but you can't buy a team...
 
ahaha well sometimes i can see where one would say that. Can buy the players, the team, and a championship. But I tend to agree that money is no factor for talent. Just cause you pay them more does not mean talent is more. If it only worked that way :)

The new owners of the sabres terry pegulia spent 64 million in his first year and plans on spending that every year for the next five years. So far, its got him the first ticket out of the playoffs. Just to funny imo! Don't spend a kazillion dollars and think you bought yourself into the playoffs. [TABLE="class: tablehead, width: 0"]
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[TD="bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left"]Josh Beckett[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: transparent, align: left"]David Ortiz[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left"]Kevin Youkilis[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left"]12,250,000[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: transparent, align: left"]Dustin Pedroia[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left"]Jacoby Ellsbury[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left"]8,050,000[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: transparent, align: left"]Jon Lester[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left"]Clay Buchholz[/TD]
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To me, this is a perfect example of thinking your buying more talent with more money. I would not pay 3 million a year for the best name on that list. Let alone the 96,357,143 MILLION a YEAR to have all of those men on the team. Simply paying to much for way little.
 
Keep in mind that salaries are not totally based upon performance. Keeping certain players from division rivals and how marketable a player is is also factored into a bid for a player.

personally I think that is a stupid way of thinking but thats what happens. The Yankees want a starter? The Red Sox will bid them up, or overbid them and vice versa.

But I'm sure I'm not telling any of you anything new.

Remember that awesome team the Mets "bought" back in '92? Lol. Vince Coleman & Bobby Bonilla.
 
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