I expect to be able to get 5 a plant at least. I have done my research into this and the average for a 600 watt seems to be 300 grams with a long veg time. This man last year sold 26 bags in one day. Hed prob be able to get rid of 10 os in a day no problem. How do you know they weight the plant? Because i mean the average plant prob weighs a kilo with soil and everything. That means anyone caught with one plant is absolutely fucked. I hope i dont come across as a tyre kicker or a greedy cunt. I have done a serious amount of research into this and i think its crazy how expensive weed is here. Ive been paying 450 -500 an ounce for last year and I wouldnt mind making a dent in that. Even if its only a small one
The Irish Growers Thread!
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kang420
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so chocabloc you and your mate both smoke 3 oz's per month each? 3000 euro a month, if thats the case the best advise i can give you is get a better job that will fund your serious habit or take a break and re-access your smoking and cut down cause you both are paying for a drug dealers house,
i understand your pissed at prices, i am too thats why i have no weed at the min i refuse to pay 500 per oz, i think you are going in very hard to start with and anyone in that house will be going to jail not just whoever owns up and that may even include the landlord, when cops get alot of plants they like to make it sound good and weigh everything they may even water them for you before weighing, unless you are in the country with no houses around i would near bet my life you both will be caught, if your pulling 4oz from a plant in a dr60 i dont see anything wrong with that and you should be glad just not to have to buy it,
believe it or not its people like you that is preventing cannabis being legal, if every smoker grew his own plant and not 50 of them theres nothing anyone could do about it but when cops find a house full thats been grown for profit they have full support of the zombie public and the war continues
kang420
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Yo iamaaror my little cobra thats been 3 days under the led had started to show the same problems as my last plant burning tips and yellowing, i went to tesco yesterday and got this stuff called spatone liquid iron 100% natural liquid iron i think its for prego's and anyone needing iron and it doesent have any vitamins or anything just iron,
so i put 1/4 of a sachet into the a&b food for it and give it to it last night and today the leaves are really dark green and the leaves are looking strong not droppy, that stuff seems very good maybe everyone should use a little now and then but its a must for led
so i put 1/4 of a sachet into the a&b food for it and give it to it last night and today the leaves are really dark green and the leaves are looking strong not droppy, that stuff seems very good maybe everyone should use a little now and then but its a must for led
ae86 grower
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seems a good investment that stuff.... bet dave is like "now he tells me" hahaahaha..
kang420
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haha they were 5 sterling a box or 3 for a tenner i got 3 boxes 14 sachets in every box, good to have you back ae mate
ae86 grower
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thanks kang its good to be home haveing a cuppa tea, don`t know what that stuff they give you in there is, but its not tea.....
ae86 grower
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agree with you here har, its way too much to start off with, you said choc that you grew before, so you know how much work goes into it, not just seed in soil and grow like.....
also 4 600w are going to be hard to work with apart from correct setup and heat them suckers are going to burn up about 300 euro each esb bill, so every two months, you plan on a 4 month grow, 2 to veg 2 to flower correct? thats 600notes then cost of each bulb and ballast tents, soil, nutes, fans ducting, exhaust fans inline of course..
the list goes on, if you just want to supply yourself you`d be safer to go get a kilo off a local bigwig and get the mate that can shift it to get selling, after all you`ll either make money or smoke it up....
i hope you hear where i`m comeing from as were small growers here, we choose to be... were capable of growing trees of weed, and growing commercial quantitys but we choose a little quality smoke for our own consumtion, rather than commercial weights of stock weed....
Harrekin
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I thought 2 600w's with 8 plants would be too much and I was only gonna do so much cos I planning on making it all into hash for myself so Id only have gotten 10-15% of the total dry weight.
dave gilmour
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ha ha not quite 86, things are pretty good this end, 3 of the 4 girls are over a metre tall now. pistils are showin(i thought in my ignorance that the female pre-flowers turn into pistils!). humidity could be a bit lower but all in all its goin really well right now.
ae86 grower
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well i think for personal 2 600w is about as much wattage as you would want to lay down, and theres nothing wrong with it, but to come on here and ask straight off the bat about a commercial grow... even perpetual high yeilds would be classed as sale or supply, as in 4 tents from seed or clone to full flowering would be looked at as a factory line, and even if you got away with it for a while if you get caught that entitles CA.B to come in and take your tv, your car, even mam and dads car should they feel like it, until such time as you produce evedience as to where the cash came from etc... of course these are worst case senario but you have to think like that, if you can`t do the time....
also choc if you do go ahead i`m available for watering them, as its going to be a three man job hahahahaha..... now understand that even tho most of the guys here would say don`t do it, and your mates are like do it... and there your mates and all, but trust me, if the shit hit the fan, they`ll be the first to sail you down the river....
also choc if you do go ahead i`m available for watering them, as its going to be a three man job hahahahaha..... now understand that even tho most of the guys here would say don`t do it, and your mates are like do it... and there your mates and all, but trust me, if the shit hit the fan, they`ll be the first to sail you down the river....
ae86 grower
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you know your growing when you start measureing them in meter`s.....hahahahaha, good that they turned the corner for you, afternthat veg there going to yeild like a mother fuc....
Thanks for all the advice. I only reply to one person at a time as i dont know how to multi quote. Im gonna go to visit the grow shop guy and see his perspective on it and maybe talk to a lawyer for a definite answer. You think theyd be able to give it?
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- so chocabloc you and your mate both smoke 3 oz's per month each? 3000 euro a month, if thats the case the best advise i can give you is get a better job that will fund your serious habit or take a break and re-access your smoking and cut down cause you both are paying for a drug dealers house
I already sell to fund my habit. Which is what im trying to stop as its just too risky. I dont mind having a cultivation charge but i dont want a sale and supply charge hence me here looking for advice. However im not going down the route of getting a key.
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- believe it or not its people like you that is preventing cannabis being legal, if every smoker grew his own plant and not 50 of them theres nothing anyone could do about it but when cops find a house full thats been grown for profit they have full support of the zombie public and the war continues"
So its not people like me who are preventing it being legal. Its the fact that every smoker doesnt grow his own plant. Either way people are still gonna buy the weed. Someones gonna grow the weed and make money off it. Could either be me, a limerick drug gang or some poor Vietnamese bastards. The only way for legalisation through non political means is to over grow the government. Thats not gonna happen anytime soon.
- i hope you hear where i`m comeing from as were small growers here, we choose to be... were capable of growing trees of weed, and growing commercial quantitys but we choose a little quality smoke for our own consumtion, rather than commercial weights of stock weed....
Loud and clear. Im planning on growing serious smoke too. Just because theres lots of it doesnt reduce the quality
. Unless of course its curedAt the end of the day I am just a quiet nerdy stoner who wants to grow weed. But if im taking the risk of growing it, I would like to be able to grow as much as I can without the penalties rising. Whether im caught with one plant or ten as far as i know its pretty much the same sentencing. Which is why I think its pointless to grow only one or two.
BTW ae86 google LBH 4 way LST. Its a much better way to Lst than the spiral one around the pot thats in your avatar.
Peace
Harrekin
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Dude be realistic, they're gonna fuck you for intent to supply if you're caught.
"Complex, planned operation, multiple lights...far more dried product than personal use...bags, scales, etc".
My advice: Start small, get cost neutral, and enjoy your smoke. If you absolutely insist on dealing, start slowly, clear some excess and see how it goes. Think think and think some more.
Just outta interest where you gonna tell "your guy" all the weed is coming from? What you gonna do when he decides his cut isn't enough and you're making all the cheddar? What you gonna do if he tells someone when drunk and they decide they want your stash? Have you considered the need to defend yourself? Have you considered his risks of getting arrested and ratting you for reduced charges himself?
Dealing crosses that line and you're talking quantities that will expose you more to it, are you on for that?
How are you gonna explain the money? You have a job? Are you happy NOT spending money on nice things, cos unless you're laundering it it'll add up and cash is basically useless except for small shit.
You gonna have the electricity in your name? Can you hide the gear/plants if the landlord or whoever wants to come over? Can you afford a failed crop if something goes wrong?
Again this sorta scale isn't for me, just you really need to think EVERY step through.
Your expected plant yields are massively ambitious too, what strain do you expect to yield 6 ounces of high quality per plant with only 2 per 600? It's usually quality or quantity, the genes don't seem to go well together.
Have you ever seen how much heat a 600w HPS produces btw? I cracked a cooltube the other day from the weather being so good cos the intake air was too warm...can you handle 4 of them?
As for talking to a lawyer...seriously?
Hope this helps and all, but slow down man, this is serious shit you're proposing and if you're asking so many questions then it's probably not for you yet.
And just for the record, most of the "gangs" you mentioned have low level "workers" to take the fall for them in the event of a bust
"Complex, planned operation, multiple lights...far more dried product than personal use...bags, scales, etc".
My advice: Start small, get cost neutral, and enjoy your smoke. If you absolutely insist on dealing, start slowly, clear some excess and see how it goes. Think think and think some more.
Just outta interest where you gonna tell "your guy" all the weed is coming from? What you gonna do when he decides his cut isn't enough and you're making all the cheddar? What you gonna do if he tells someone when drunk and they decide they want your stash? Have you considered the need to defend yourself? Have you considered his risks of getting arrested and ratting you for reduced charges himself?
Dealing crosses that line and you're talking quantities that will expose you more to it, are you on for that?
How are you gonna explain the money? You have a job? Are you happy NOT spending money on nice things, cos unless you're laundering it it'll add up and cash is basically useless except for small shit.
You gonna have the electricity in your name? Can you hide the gear/plants if the landlord or whoever wants to come over? Can you afford a failed crop if something goes wrong?
Again this sorta scale isn't for me, just you really need to think EVERY step through.
Your expected plant yields are massively ambitious too, what strain do you expect to yield 6 ounces of high quality per plant with only 2 per 600? It's usually quality or quantity, the genes don't seem to go well together.
Have you ever seen how much heat a 600w HPS produces btw? I cracked a cooltube the other day from the weather being so good cos the intake air was too warm...can you handle 4 of them?
As for talking to a lawyer...seriously?
Hope this helps and all, but slow down man, this is serious shit you're proposing and if you're asking so many questions then it's probably not for you yet.
And just for the record, most of the "gangs" you mentioned have low level "workers" to take the fall for them in the event of a bust
- "Just outta interest where you gonna tell "your guy" all the weed is coming from? What you gonna do when he decides his cut isn't enough and you're making all the cheddar? What you gonna do if he tells someone when drunk and they decide they want your stash? Have you considered the need to defend yourself? Have you considered his risks of getting arrested and ratting you for reduced charges himself?"
The fella in mind has been my friend and neighbour since i was about 4. I have already thought about this. Ill give him 4 o's at a time. That way if he does got caught he wont have too much on him and i know he will not rat. I am 100% confident of this. He will know im growing it and I know he will keep his mouth shut.
I havent come to a decision yet what to do with the money. I can live with not spending it on nice things. Electricity will be in my name and the landlord is not a issue. He never visits as he lives abroad.
I have seen many strains reach far excess of this. Obviously an indica as there heavy yielders. I have seen grows where people have gotten around 20 ounces from 1 plant vegged for 4 weeks in a dwc under a 600 hps. Have you heard of scrogging? .5 gram per watt is what any novice grower should aim for. Im vegging each plant for 2 months. Achieving 10 ounces is the least of my worries. Even if i only got 5 ounces I would be happy. The strength of a weed is due to genetics. It has absolutely nothing to do with how big its grown. Obviously correct flushing affects quality but size does not affect quality.
I do appreciate all yer answers even if they are not what I want to hear. My main issue with this is still how cannabis is valued. Im getting mixed reports. I have been told by the fella in the growshop that its 400 per plant regardless whereas I have heard here that they weigh the plant fully. Can anyone give me a definitve answer on the valuation.
I could vent into the attic or through a window. Surely this will deal with the heat for 4 600 watts.
iamaaror
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Yeah you don't have any real options for venting all that heat without exhausting it through a vent which will be seen as well. I don't think it's worth the risk and I can't see any real benefits to having such a large consumption. Just tone that down to a normal level and you can meet your goal with a 1 or 2 plant grow.
ae86 grower
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the attic is a defo no no anyways, as any attic grower will tell you, if the weather outside is warm the heat up there will be like a neon sign to the flir...
your only option there is the chimney....
i think you have your mind made up on this and are going to go ahead eitherways, we have only put in our two cents to help you, maybe something you have not tought of yet, as in heat with so many lights ( i really think your under estimateing this) ....
i really hope you have good mates, jealousy is a terrible thing and will make the soundest of them flip on you...
i as the rest of the lads here hope you do it... get away with it..... make a fortune...
only then will you see the error of how your going about it now....
your only option there is the chimney....
i think you have your mind made up on this and are going to go ahead eitherways, we have only put in our two cents to help you, maybe something you have not tought of yet, as in heat with so many lights ( i really think your under estimateing this) ....
i really hope you have good mates, jealousy is a terrible thing and will make the soundest of them flip on you...
i as the rest of the lads here hope you do it... get away with it..... make a fortune...
only then will you see the error of how your going about it now....
I do have seriously good mates. The only thing stopping me from going to Australia like the rest of the country. I dont have my mind made up on it fully. I am gonna grow, im just not sure how much. Like I said ill have to go into the grow shop and see what he says. I didnt think we had FLIRs in Ireland...At least not for spotting cannabis. If the grow shop says its too much I might just grow 8 under a 1000 watt or something like that. That should be fine in terms of personal use and not being spotted by FLIR if they are used here
kang420
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They do indeed use FLIR here mate alot of people have been caught here with it, i wouldent put as much faith in the "guy" in the grow shop as his job is to get you to buy as many lights as possible and 9 times outta 10 them guys have never even grown a tomato never mind have a massive grow op. you can say its personal if its under 4 plants but anymore and they just wont listen to anything you have to say and charge you with supply,
hows everyones night going anyway no craic?