Closetgardner
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Not bad man! I was beginning to think everyone had fucked off lol
The UK Growers Thread!
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newuserlol
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go like that sumtimes m8, im still trimming lol well im spose to be anyway but the vodka and the tabs are saying no. might leave the rest till 2mora n get me sis round to help.
Saerimmner
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Not bad, jus finished cooking n eating a roast dinner n now chilling with some more of that Pineapple Cheese 
tent? me use a tent? lol na i can keep it under control glad i had the carbon filter to be honest, a few candles round the house the smells gone,, airwick auto srays work well, spray out wen sum1 walks past,
the drys gunna be worse, ima just gaffa tape the door and every crack i can find the measuremenets im working with no way could i get a tent that shape
just got bak from xmas lights in town been put onm what a load of shit, spent more in the fair lol
Closetgardner
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Have u got much left to do??
newuserlol
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fucking shitloads left, there alot more there than i thought done bout half but would say theres 25-30oz of exo there.
Closetgardner
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Was it any one famous that put the lights on?
Closetgardner
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Fucking hell!!! Probly better getting that vodi out, Fuck it it'll wait llf
newuserlol
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Not bad, jus finished cooking n eating a roast dinner n now chilling with some more of that Pineapple Cheese
sorted out ya housing probs yet m8? i read the other day ur out a house end of the month!!!
na sum nobody fucking dosser and sum thrash metal band ive never even heard of with a name trying to make em sound hard"!!! lmao alll noise to me
stayed on the fair fiver for a balloon type price fucking liberty prices thought id been bent over and pentrated haha
smabo i hope ur making sum hash for us both outa that trim!
newuserlol
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sorry m8 its already spoken for, is being made into iso. there fucking shitloads of trim too and loads of lil bits of bud should be some nice iso,
Saerimmner
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Not so far, got a C.A.B. appt on 19th with some specialised advisor and apparently we are eligible for legal something or other that will pay for us to fight all this and/or re-house us if it fails apparently so wont really know a lot til then
newuserlol
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Saerimmner
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Yeah well all this has been caused by the council so now they will have to fix it lol. cheers mate much appreciated
dura72
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Herta Muller. The Land of Green Plums.(1996, 31-32)
They were at home intheir fear. The factory and the bodega, the shops and the apartmentblocks, the railway stations and the train rides through fields ofwheat, corn, and sunflowers all were listening. The streetcars, thehospitals and the graveyards. The walls and the ceilings and the opensky. And if it happened , as it often did, that drunkenness grewcareless in places which were lies, it was more like a mistake on thepart of the walls or the ceilings or the open sky, than any intentionof the human brain.
The passage seems toinstil a sense of watchfulness and paranoia with references toeverything 'listening'. The author uses short phrases paused withcommas where many writers would just produce a list. This maybesuggests dis-jointed thoughts with no real flow as observation mustbe maintained and therefore attention is focused externally to thesuppression or inhibition of the internal monologue. The imagery ismainly that of the everyday with mundane places such as factories orflats but the author also uses the Spanish word 'bodega', maybe toflaunt her supposedly forbidden knowledge of an un-obtainableoustide world. This mundane, and normally, non-threatening world isimbued with a sense of danger. Nature cannot be trusted, normallylife giving and sustaining foods such as wheat and corn are alsolistening, sunflowers, historically used in poetry and prose asmetaphors for the happiness of summertime, are all 'listening'. Theauthor breaks writing conventions when starting the 5[SUP]th[/SUP]sentence with the conjunction 'and' as well as her repeated use ofthe words 'and the ' together as opposed to the afore-mentioned listsusually created by inserting commas although she for some reasoninserts a comma after the word corn in the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] sentence ofthe paragraph. At the end of the paragraph she refers to places 'which were lies', does this mean they only exist in her own head orare they lies in that these places of social gathering, and possiblyfriendliness, are in actuality places of danger. In the final part ofthe paragraph the author seems to blame the environment for theshortcomings of her reality instead of saying it is the fault of theindividual, this may be a reference to her changing perceptions; thatthe human brain is doing nothing wrong and acting naturally but herdeveloping political/social awareness has awoken from its previousstate of dormancy. Her style is of writing is punchy and wandering,no real linear narrative is apparent, as a result it is up to theindividual perception of the reader.
There may bemetaphorical references understandable only to those in her ownethnic/social background. The opening line of the paragraph says 'they were at home in their fear', this could suggest that they werein fear within their homes or that fear was a normal, almostcomfortable, state of being and as such when experienced made themfeel at home because without it they would have felt alone, they hadbecome so inured to it it had actually become part of there 'normal'life and any change would have been even more fearful. Furtherreferences using metaphor were 'places which were lies', maybe this areference to a known attitude about supposed places of 'socialising',that in other cultures would have been places of relaxation andleisure being open and dangerous areas where the government wouldobviously have spies watching .There is also a further reference tothe 'walls or the ceilings', this possibly may be a metaphor similarto the ww2 phrase 'the walls have ears' and could reference possibleelectronic surveilance .It is also possible that living under thepressures of a brutal and strict totalitarian regime may actuallydevelop stress induced mental health issues and the writer is tryingto convey the normalacy of 'madness. The writers background in poetrymay also account for this regular use of metaphorical imagery as alsothe fact the original was written in a foreign language and thereforecertain translational discrepancies occur.
They were at home intheir fear. The factory and the bodega, the shops and the apartmentblocks, the railway stations and the train rides through fields ofwheat, corn, and sunflowers all were listening. The streetcars, thehospitals and the graveyards. The walls and the ceilings and the opensky. And if it happened , as it often did, that drunkenness grewcareless in places which were lies, it was more like a mistake on thepart of the walls or the ceilings or the open sky, than any intentionof the human brain.
The passage seems toinstil a sense of watchfulness and paranoia with references toeverything 'listening'. The author uses short phrases paused withcommas where many writers would just produce a list. This maybesuggests dis-jointed thoughts with no real flow as observation mustbe maintained and therefore attention is focused externally to thesuppression or inhibition of the internal monologue. The imagery ismainly that of the everyday with mundane places such as factories orflats but the author also uses the Spanish word 'bodega', maybe toflaunt her supposedly forbidden knowledge of an un-obtainableoustide world. This mundane, and normally, non-threatening world isimbued with a sense of danger. Nature cannot be trusted, normallylife giving and sustaining foods such as wheat and corn are alsolistening, sunflowers, historically used in poetry and prose asmetaphors for the happiness of summertime, are all 'listening'. Theauthor breaks writing conventions when starting the 5[SUP]th[/SUP]sentence with the conjunction 'and' as well as her repeated use ofthe words 'and the ' together as opposed to the afore-mentioned listsusually created by inserting commas although she for some reasoninserts a comma after the word corn in the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] sentence ofthe paragraph. At the end of the paragraph she refers to places 'which were lies', does this mean they only exist in her own head orare they lies in that these places of social gathering, and possiblyfriendliness, are in actuality places of danger. In the final part ofthe paragraph the author seems to blame the environment for theshortcomings of her reality instead of saying it is the fault of theindividual, this may be a reference to her changing perceptions; thatthe human brain is doing nothing wrong and acting naturally but herdeveloping political/social awareness has awoken from its previousstate of dormancy. Her style is of writing is punchy and wandering,no real linear narrative is apparent, as a result it is up to theindividual perception of the reader.
There may bemetaphorical references understandable only to those in her ownethnic/social background. The opening line of the paragraph says 'they were at home in their fear', this could suggest that they werein fear within their homes or that fear was a normal, almostcomfortable, state of being and as such when experienced made themfeel at home because without it they would have felt alone, they hadbecome so inured to it it had actually become part of there 'normal'life and any change would have been even more fearful. Furtherreferences using metaphor were 'places which were lies', maybe this areference to a known attitude about supposed places of 'socialising',that in other cultures would have been places of relaxation andleisure being open and dangerous areas where the government wouldobviously have spies watching .There is also a further reference tothe 'walls or the ceilings', this possibly may be a metaphor similarto the ww2 phrase 'the walls have ears' and could reference possibleelectronic surveilance .It is also possible that living under thepressures of a brutal and strict totalitarian regime may actuallydevelop stress induced mental health issues and the writer is tryingto convey the normalacy of 'madness. The writers background in poetrymay also account for this regular use of metaphorical imagery as alsothe fact the original was written in a foreign language and thereforecertain translational discrepancies occur.
dura72
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1. “The drunkenness grewcareless”. You failed to comment on this interesting quote which Ibelieve is worth commenting on because when you are drunk you aremeant to be careless so that fact that drunkenness itself has gottencareless. Suggests the madness that is the normality of the regimehas grown to a madness beyond proportion.
1.(i)I had considered commenting onthis quote as it has a nice poetic feel to it but decided that itsmeaning was fairly clear and that it was merely a reference to beingcareless when one is drunk'. I do not accept that when one is drunkthey are 'meant ' to be careless; the reasons for drunkenness aremyriad from celebration to solace, sometimes in solitary seclusionother times in social celebration. I would agree that within theparagraph the character is possibly trying to convey that the peoplewho are drunk are maybe becoming too careless and that that behaviouris a 'madness' in its own right. I would say that madness, at leastfrom the characters point of view, is all around.
2.I disagree that there is a lack offlow in her thoughts. She may be commenting in short, punchysentences but you can see the clear train of thought much like inone's own brain. For instance as she looks at her surroundings thethoughts about them connect clearly to her thoughts about the regimei.e “hospitals and graveyards.”. The desolate imagery creates areal flow of what she is trying to say to the reader.
2.(i) I do not accept that theauthor was trying to suggest a clearness of thought from thecharacters perspective. I believe the style of short sentences isdesigned to suggest a disturbed thought process as it used inconjunction with constant metaphors, suggesting there may beincipient mental health issues, whether psychotic or neurotic.. Iwould totally agree that the symbolic imagery concerning 'hospitalsand graveyards', especially having the two places mentioned side byside, would be a strong suggestion of death, pain and misery beinginextricably linked within a dystopian society.
3.I reject the idea that changewould be even more fearful. I do agree that fear has become normalyet in my paragraph I comment on the fear of a mother losing herchild. I believe there is great suggestion in the novel that fear isnormal but there is no suggestion that fear has become comfortable orthat a possible change wouldn't be welcome.
3.(i) I suggest that the very firstsentence in the paragraph could be seen as suggesting that the peopleof the society were inured to the 'fear'. They were 'at home' maysuggest that were daily surrounded by it to such an extent they wereaccepting of it within their own homes and also they had become soaccustomed to it that it had become a 'normal' part of there livesand that without it the would not be at home, although I do notsuggest that they would be not eventually become used to another wayof life.
1.(i)I had considered commenting onthis quote as it has a nice poetic feel to it but decided that itsmeaning was fairly clear and that it was merely a reference to beingcareless when one is drunk'. I do not accept that when one is drunkthey are 'meant ' to be careless; the reasons for drunkenness aremyriad from celebration to solace, sometimes in solitary seclusionother times in social celebration. I would agree that within theparagraph the character is possibly trying to convey that the peoplewho are drunk are maybe becoming too careless and that that behaviouris a 'madness' in its own right. I would say that madness, at leastfrom the characters point of view, is all around.
2.I disagree that there is a lack offlow in her thoughts. She may be commenting in short, punchysentences but you can see the clear train of thought much like inone's own brain. For instance as she looks at her surroundings thethoughts about them connect clearly to her thoughts about the regimei.e “hospitals and graveyards.”. The desolate imagery creates areal flow of what she is trying to say to the reader.
2.(i) I do not accept that theauthor was trying to suggest a clearness of thought from thecharacters perspective. I believe the style of short sentences isdesigned to suggest a disturbed thought process as it used inconjunction with constant metaphors, suggesting there may beincipient mental health issues, whether psychotic or neurotic.. Iwould totally agree that the symbolic imagery concerning 'hospitalsand graveyards', especially having the two places mentioned side byside, would be a strong suggestion of death, pain and misery beinginextricably linked within a dystopian society.
3.I reject the idea that changewould be even more fearful. I do agree that fear has become normalyet in my paragraph I comment on the fear of a mother losing herchild. I believe there is great suggestion in the novel that fear isnormal but there is no suggestion that fear has become comfortable orthat a possible change wouldn't be welcome.
3.(i) I suggest that the very firstsentence in the paragraph could be seen as suggesting that the peopleof the society were inured to the 'fear'. They were 'at home' maysuggest that were daily surrounded by it to such an extent they wereaccepting of it within their own homes and also they had become soaccustomed to it that it had become a 'normal' part of there livesand that without it the would not be at home, although I do notsuggest that they would be not eventually become used to another wayof life.
BOLLLOx U DIDNET rite that,, its spelled correctly and has good grammer, lol as easy as acopy and paste eh ?
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