This will be the first and last time that I will be posting on this forum,and don't ask me to explain why.
it is incredible to see such incredibly ignorant posts about the shroud being posted here.
If you had bothered to research the over 300 peer reviewed research papers done on the shroud you wouldn't have made such a post that doesn't match the reality of shroud research.
lets get one thing cleared away. The 88 c14 tests were invalidated a long time ago, and it wasn't invalidated by a Christian scientist, but an agnostic scientist Ray Rogers, a chemist and senior fellow at Los alamos labs, whose paper can be found in the peer reviewed journal thermochimica acta. Not only did Rogers do a chemical analysis along with vanillin testing of the shroud but he also found madder dye, a very common dye used in the Middle Ages to dye newly added material to make it fit in with the older material. The weave of that corner didn't match the weave of the rest of the shroud. The corner that was c14 tested came up positive for vanillin which proved that it was a newer material that is most likely from the Middle Ages , but strands from the rest of the shroud tested negative for vanillin which make the shroud much much older then the c14 tests showed.
Remember Rogers isn't a Christian but an agnostic who stated on video that he doesn't believe in miracles.
that being said I'm going to give u a YouTube video that will get you some of the basic knowledge of what the sturp team of scientists have found from a doctor is in constant email contact with the STURP team.
buts I couldn't stop myself from laughing when I saw the post about embalming oils being able to cause that image. The image has 3d spatial information encoded into it. Some scientists suspected this this in the 1950's and 60's because of the way that the image seemed to disappear if you stood too close to it, but that theory was finally solved in the 1970's when scientists at NASA's net propulsion unit ran a picture of the shroud through a very sofisticated device called the vp8 image analyzer. The vp8 was used by NASA to map out the terrain of the surfaces of the moon and mars in 3d.
when you run any regular picture through the vp8 it will come out all mangled, but when they ran a picture of the shroud through it, it came out a perfect 3d image of a face and body of a crucified man. The shroud is the only 2d image on earth with 3d spatial information (height distance) encoded into it. This tells us that whatever event caused this image , it didn't cause it by body to cloth contact and dissipated after 2 inches.
The shroud also has X-ray information encoded into it in the hand and wrist region , part of the femur and part of the jaw and skull to the point where u can see the wrist and finger bones as well as the gum and teeth.
Atheists organizations have tried to replicate it but to no avail. Anyone who thinks embalming oils can cause an image like this obviously hasn't intellectually studied the shroud at all.
these are just some of the unique aspects of the shroud that make it one of the most scientifically studied objects on earth. I think this will get you guys pointed in the right direction. Now for the ones making silly statements comparing the shroud to a picture of Jesus on a peanut butter sandwich, nothing will relieve you of your ignorance. The shroud isn't for you . It's for honest seekers looking for the truth.
here is one of the best shroud of turin blogs out there. It's from Stephen Jones who has been studying the shroud for over 18 years.
http://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/?m=1
here is a shroud presentation made by a doctor that has studied the shroud since the 1970's and is in constant email contact with the STURP team. The team of scientists that had 5 days alone with the shroud to have performed all sorts of tests on it.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcKTkjWkqEU
most people think the most amazing aspects of the shroud are just the shroud image, but if you watch this presentation closely, the blood clots reveal an amazing forensics evidence of who this shroud image is of.
ill give you a clue PRISTINE UNSMEARED BLOOD CLOTS, and ill let you figure out the rest from the video.
ok this should get you started on the shroud. If your an honest seeker what you will find will amaze you . If your a dogmatic head in the sand Jesus in a butter sandwich atheist , nothing can open your eyes , but one things for sure it will take years for you to study all the information that's available on the shroud. It took me 4 years and I'm still learning more myself.
Wait until my friends find out I'm posting about the shroud on a blunt smoking site hheheh
anyways take Carr all and be good and don't stop seeking.
my first and last post here