12/12 from seed
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yuri orlov
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they will u prolly get less than an oz tho but it depends if u want quanity or some fast smoke
theratfords
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https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/19368-single-cola-plants-37.html
My grow. 25 females, all 12/12 from seed. Stagered harvest. Oldest are 6 weeks in flower. Lots of pics. Check it out. I'm guessing about an oz average. That's with no shade leaves and most grown in 2-liter bottles. Can't be done. My ass!
-Dude'r
My grow. 25 females, all 12/12 from seed. Stagered harvest. Oldest are 6 weeks in flower. Lots of pics. Check it out. I'm guessing about an oz average. That's with no shade leaves and most grown in 2-liter bottles. Can't be done. My ass!
-Dude'r
theratfords
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28.8grams=Oz.
skippy pb
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Everytime someone says how much is in an ounce everyone always jumps in to get it done to the billionth decimal place.
There 28 grams in an oz. Of course its actually 28.XXXX. But why are we gunna argue over that because whos gunna be sprinkling trichromes on there bud so they can sell it for an actual oz? You going to get 28 from a dealer, right? If you get more great but I could care less.
Now your talking about once from each plant? Because if you have 4 plants thats a 1/4 pound then.
Now im not denying actual weights just lets make it nice an easy here on the forum. Draw away from the fighting of whats what, when in reality it doesn't really matter. And lets make it easy for the op to help him understand.
Thats just my 2 cents
theratfords
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Who was argueing? Everyone replied with a more accurate answer, till we got one.
Yes, I am hoping for an oz per girl. I actually have 24 plants now. But that would be a pound and a half. But I'm only betting on around 20g per plant. Which is still around a pound which isn't to shabby. Here's some pics I was just adding to my thread. I took them out of the closet to get some better close-ups. My digital camera flickers under the HPS light for whatever reason.
enjoy..
-The Dude
Yes, I am hoping for an oz per girl. I actually have 24 plants now. But that would be a pound and a half. But I'm only betting on around 20g per plant. Which is still around a pound which isn't to shabby. Here's some pics I was just adding to my thread. I took them out of the closet to get some better close-ups. My digital camera flickers under the HPS light for whatever reason.
enjoy..
-The Dude
dgafaboutanyone
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lol well yea you can do it no ones stoping you
but they might turn out weride lol well post sum pics!
but they might turn out weride lol well post sum pics!
Budda_Luva
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i wouldnt recommend 12/12 from sends its gay ur plant really doesnt show sex as fast as u would want it i ddi 12/12 with one in my current grow its 1 month old right now and still hasnt shown sex i say its better off 24/7 light for one month than flower juss imo
skippy pb
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Does it just not grow branches or do you cut them.
And how long did you veg for and how long have you flowered/plan on flowering for??
Thanks, Skip
if your short on vertical space 12/12 from seed works great. if you have vertical space veg em. it sucks to get a midget plant, but it really sucks to get a midget while running 12/12 from seed. im on my 3 run 12/12 from seed right now and i will never use it again unless something dramatic happens and i have no other choice. but it does work just fine if your looking for short and small plants. peace.
theratfords
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I wouldn't recommend it either. It's a experiment for me. I didn't veg at all. 12/12 under my 1000w hps since day one. They are all bagseed so no idea on flowering times. But however long they need, I'm not in any hurry. I was more or less testing different trimming/prunning/growing methods to discover which one give most yield and potency. 12/12 from seed was a attempt to rush the experiment.
So my next grow will benefit greatly from this one. But, like I said, It's not really worth it to 12/12 from seed. It's fast yes, but with a extra 2-3 weeks of veg, you'll still have short plants but it will greatly increase your yeild.
If vertical feet is what your lacking in. Consider a SCROG. You can cram a lot of vertical growth under the screen. Plus your canopy would have a predetermined height; Which helps a lot.
I was told 12/12 from seed would produce naturally a single cola only plant. But it doesn't I assure you. You must trim for that. I did most in that fashion. But a few have different variables. Some were supercropped, topped, low branches trimmed, top branches trimmed, some were tied. Damn near everything. You really can shape these things to a damn pretzel shape if you want to.
Basically, it boils down to this: What kind of harvest are you happy with? What kind of budz do you want? I like main cola budz the most. Always more potent in my opinion. I'd seriously advise some veg time to assure your not disappointed with your harvest. If you just want a quick harvest, look into cloning, and a perpetual harvest may be for you.
Don't let me discourage you though. If you wanna try it go for it. But SOG grows are best with a suitable strain and lots of plants. That's the whole point of a SOG. Less per plant, but a lot more plants. If you do 12/12 from seed it's essentially a SOG hopefully. Deffinitly don't rush one plant. That would be pointless. I could only see it being worthwhile if you had over 15 or so. Good luck all, stay safe!
-Dude'r
So my next grow will benefit greatly from this one. But, like I said, It's not really worth it to 12/12 from seed. It's fast yes, but with a extra 2-3 weeks of veg, you'll still have short plants but it will greatly increase your yeild.
If vertical feet is what your lacking in. Consider a SCROG. You can cram a lot of vertical growth under the screen. Plus your canopy would have a predetermined height; Which helps a lot.
I was told 12/12 from seed would produce naturally a single cola only plant. But it doesn't I assure you. You must trim for that. I did most in that fashion. But a few have different variables. Some were supercropped, topped, low branches trimmed, top branches trimmed, some were tied. Damn near everything. You really can shape these things to a damn pretzel shape if you want to.
Basically, it boils down to this: What kind of harvest are you happy with? What kind of budz do you want? I like main cola budz the most. Always more potent in my opinion. I'd seriously advise some veg time to assure your not disappointed with your harvest. If you just want a quick harvest, look into cloning, and a perpetual harvest may be for you.
Don't let me discourage you though. If you wanna try it go for it. But SOG grows are best with a suitable strain and lots of plants. That's the whole point of a SOG. Less per plant, but a lot more plants. If you do 12/12 from seed it's essentially a SOG hopefully. Deffinitly don't rush one plant. That would be pointless. I could only see it being worthwhile if you had over 15 or so. Good luck all, stay safe!
-Dude'r
theratfords
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Oh, forgot to mention. Even when done 12/12 from seed it took an average of 16-21 days to show sex. Even though the plant is under 12/12 from day one. It still does through 5-7 days of vegging. Around 10 days after that you'll have your sex.
I had 50 original plants. 25 turned male of course. I got a perfect 50% ratio. Nice. But, being bagseed, they are all different heights. I had some show sex at as small as 5 inches. While others sexed at 18 inches. So if you are going to rush a plant. I would suggest picking a strain suited for the growth your looking for.
Good luck, Stay Safe!
-Dude
I had 50 original plants. 25 turned male of course. I got a perfect 50% ratio. Nice. But, being bagseed, they are all different heights. I had some show sex at as small as 5 inches. While others sexed at 18 inches. So if you are going to rush a plant. I would suggest picking a strain suited for the growth your looking for.
Good luck, Stay Safe!
-Dude
skippy pb
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Advice on this situation. Since my last grow all my equipment has been discarded. Why you ask? Mommy and daddy found it and took it with a nice little talk to me and a slap on the wrist?
Wow really?
No not at all, my last grow was stealthy but also homemade. Trying to test my creative abilitys I turned out very well but at the same time it was if'y. Lots of duct tape and all and it just lacked that professionalism. So im going with a homebox now and some premade stuff to get back on my feet.
So anyway after that being said I have no plants right now and some seeds from various shwag strains ive collected. But I want to start another grow from the seed. Now if I do the 12/12 from seed method get a plant going fast will I be able to clone it for more plants that will have good yield and potency and all?
Or does this method mess with the output of future plantkids?
And if you do 12/12 from seed it doesn't just start going into flowering from day one does it?
Im probably gunna do atleast a week of vegging. I want some yield.
Wow really?
No not at all, my last grow was stealthy but also homemade. Trying to test my creative abilitys I turned out very well but at the same time it was if'y. Lots of duct tape and all and it just lacked that professionalism. So im going with a homebox now and some premade stuff to get back on my feet.
So anyway after that being said I have no plants right now and some seeds from various shwag strains ive collected. But I want to start another grow from the seed. Now if I do the 12/12 from seed method get a plant going fast will I be able to clone it for more plants that will have good yield and potency and all?
Or does this method mess with the output of future plantkids?
And if you do 12/12 from seed it doesn't just start going into flowering from day one does it?
Im probably gunna do atleast a week of vegging. I want some yield.
Bubbuh Kush
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Skippy, to answer you....yes you can clone from plants that were grown 12/12 from seed. It doesnt hurt it at all because all you generally have to do is decide 1 of 2 things. 1...do I wanna take a clone and veg it some then go to flower. Or 2 just go str8 to flower, either way will work but its a matter of yield preferences. A week of veg then going to 12/12 will give you a slightly better yield but then you also have to go into medium, lights, experience yada yada yada lol. I've done plants 12/12 from seed and pulled an oz+ off. Granted if space isnt a problem, then yea...go ahead a veg a couple of weeks. It doesnt flower from day one though even if you may start your cycle for that. It'll take a week or two but after that they usually show not too long afterwards. But genetics come into play too, I say play around with it and experiment.
I'll agree with theratford, as far as it growing single cola plants thats false but aye i wasnt complainin, more green for me
I'll agree with theratford, as far as it growing single cola plants thats false but aye i wasnt complainin, more green for me
theratfords
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No, it wont flower from day one. 5-7 days of veg then after sexual maturity they'll show sex. In my current grow. The avegare was around 19 days when sexed. Even though they were done 12/12 from day one. It still takes a minute to met mature. So, the plant will go a week of veg anyway. I'd suggest at least 2 weeks veg time.
Not sure on your cloning question. I've heard mothers flowered, then reverted back to veg. Will have messed up genetics on any clones taken during second veg period. Don't take it as bible though. Just something I read somewhere. But, if your doing 12/12 from seed, you wont have much to clone from. You could keep a mother. But if yout plan is to clone your 12/12 from seed plants. DOn't. They'll be as small as they get so I wouldn't advise cutting anything mid flower. Which is what it would be if you did 12/12 from seed.
With no plants, I would germinate yesterday! Then do a good 3 weeks of veg. Then flip em' to 12/12. You'll be very happy with your yeilds. Please trust me, do some veg time. I can't say it enough. It's not worth the rush! You really wont save much time. But you will decrease your harvest. I suppose 1 oz is nothing to scoff at. But 2 is always better.
If you are set on 12/12 from seed. Do a lot of them. I have 24 and I'm expecting about a pound all together. More would be nice but not counting on it. So, my adivse: The smaller you intend on having them at harvest. The more you should do. A little off each plant isn't bad if you have a bunch.
Peace
-Dude'r
Not sure on your cloning question. I've heard mothers flowered, then reverted back to veg. Will have messed up genetics on any clones taken during second veg period. Don't take it as bible though. Just something I read somewhere. But, if your doing 12/12 from seed, you wont have much to clone from. You could keep a mother. But if yout plan is to clone your 12/12 from seed plants. DOn't. They'll be as small as they get so I wouldn't advise cutting anything mid flower. Which is what it would be if you did 12/12 from seed.
With no plants, I would germinate yesterday! Then do a good 3 weeks of veg. Then flip em' to 12/12. You'll be very happy with your yeilds. Please trust me, do some veg time. I can't say it enough. It's not worth the rush! You really wont save much time. But you will decrease your harvest. I suppose 1 oz is nothing to scoff at. But 2 is always better.
If you are set on 12/12 from seed. Do a lot of them. I have 24 and I'm expecting about a pound all together. More would be nice but not counting on it. So, my adivse: The smaller you intend on having them at harvest. The more you should do. A little off each plant isn't bad if you have a bunch.
Peace
-Dude'r
theratfords
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That was my point. It wont gorw single cola naturally. That's what I was told. But that is wrong. If you want single cola only growth, get ready to trim some branched. Actually, I did have 2 or 3 that grew naturally this way. But with 50 original plants I'm sure its a fluke.
Peace All, stay safe
-Dude'r
Peace All, stay safe
-Dude'r