3 or 5 gallon air pots ( or smart pots ) in 4x4 tent

Johnei

Johnei

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Huge inconvinence that way I drilled a million tiny holes, yeah for sure. Was doing that shit for hours...

I will take what you say into consideration grow bro. I want the BEST! ..and I KNOW any type of air bag style pots will improve my end result over traditinal pots. I'm confident in this 100% Should of done this 10 years ago jumped on the air pots style pots! (..when I saw how well they worked in outdoor tree plantations ;))
Lightgreen2k said:
WHY would you even think it is alright to talk about grow bags/plastic bags when the poster is talking about air pots. Frabic pots. You can purchase a 5 pack of 5 gallon pots of amazon for about $35 or less. @Johnei purchase the smart pots, they are designed to air prune.

How do i say this, you are not in a 3rd world country and have to punch plastic bags and wholes Wtf. Thats an inconvience, like who has time for all that when smart pots work perfect one shot.
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Lightgreen2k

Lightgreen2k

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To the original poster, because this is who.this thread about before it got highjacked :-?:confused:..

Just get 3 or 5 gallon sized air pots in your 4x4 tent.

From real world experience they work great. Short sweet and too the point, many others have echoed the same thing.
 
Johnei

Johnei

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I'm sure the OP doesn't mind, I really don't. It's still on topic and I think it's good information here. HE has had many good responses and I think he has idea already what he's going to do. I get this vibe.
 
Johnei

Johnei

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He knows to get 3 or 5gal. air pots, do you see the thread title though, Sir? or Miss? or Misses?
Lightgreen2k said:
To the original poster, because this is who.this thread about before it got highjacked :-?:confused:..

Just get 3 or 5 gallon sized air pots in your 4x4 tent.

From real world experience they work great. Short sweet and too the point, many others have echoed the same thing.
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Lightgreen2k

Lightgreen2k

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Johnei said:
He knows to get 3 or 5gal. air pots, do you see the thread title though, Sir? or Miss? or Misses?
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so if it has been answered why talk about anything that hasnt to do with his question.

If I ask you if the sky is blue and you say yes, are you going to say the grass is green next. but to each there own..

Like why not just purchase the pots spoken about.
Johnei..

why drilling instead of making a simple purchase.

Smart Pots the brand. "Air style pots" are not one in the same. Perhaps to the reason it did not go well for you..
 
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Johnei

Johnei

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I might just do that. I want to know extrEME details of every little intricacy of air pot, mesh pot, drilled holes pots, anything to do with the subject. I want to know it all. It's cool bro. I get you. But here, in this thread, I don't think any hijacking went too far as everything is still on topic, except you and I right now. ;) I moved it. PEACE.
 
ANC

ANC

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Lightgreen2k said:
WHY would you even think it is alright to talk about grow bags/plastic bags when the poster is talking about air pots. Frabic pots. You can purchase a 5 pack of 5 gallon pots of amazon for about $35 or less. @Johnei purchase the smart pots, they are designed to air prune.

How do i say this, you are not in a 3rd world country and have to punch plastic bags and wholes Wtf. Thats an inconvience, like who has time for all that when smart pots work perfect one shot.
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Yes, if he were to start the seed in the final growbag he intend to use, by all means. I am advocating using a series of bags to create multiple branches in the rootball all pointing outward from the centre.
If you have money to buy growbags in all the needed sizes, go ahead. I was just stating it was not needed. you can reuse the plastic bag many times with a good bleach soak in between. If at any stage before your seedling gets to the growbag you grew it in a cup or some other hard lined coned container, your roots are already deformed.

Actually, I'm in Africa, I can get grow bags, but they are expensive and not needed. Heck, you guys have such a consumer marker you may even be able to find white bags.
 
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upnsmoke13

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I'm just wondering & trying to learn,
Are you advocating the additional surface area of a ball vs a cone? Why should I leave my solo cups behind & what's a good size bag to start a seed in?
 
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pollen205

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ANC said:
If you don't use smart bags from the get go, i.e. use party cups or seeding trays or anything that allows any roots other than only the tips to grow on the surface of the root ball, you are missing the full power of what it can achieve.
This bit of info above is THE MOST IMPORTANT thing you can know about optimising your success when you get to the large grow bag. It all starts in the first week. When the bulk of your canopy is about as wide as the bag, the rootball will be as big as the bag. Bag up to a bag 2" bigger, right around the ball. This is important. the roots will grow to the end of the new bag, be air pruned by the tonnes of holes again and a bunch of new roots will form about 4 inches back. This method grows a perfect root ball the shape of the bag. It has no misdirected roots, nothing choking out other roots, and has orders of magnitude more actual roots and root surface. Do it once. You will never grow seedlings the same way again.

You can use ordinary plastic plant bags punched full of holes with a paper punch. I can fit about 3 bags at a time in mine.
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Since you know much about it...
I have option for 25 and 50 l air pot or 25 l fabric pot...
Don't want to transplant so final pot from the start... Growing just one plant in 2x2.5
Thinking the bigger is better so is 50 l air pot best option ?
 
ANC

ANC

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I am not a fan of doing that, unless it is warm and you do it outdoors to help dry the pot better.
 
SickboyDilligaf

SickboyDilligaf

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ANC said:
go trim your root, and watch where the new root growth takes off from, right there at the tip., it just exacerbates the problem.
I'm not selling you anything, I am sharing something I learned by doing the tests and comparisons myself.You are free to ignore it.

With ordinary pots and bags, you run the risk of root growth to the end of the ball and then trying to grow and change direction on the surface of the ball. Wash off the dirt and you will have some scraggly spiralling roots.
I know this is a very old post but you’re comparing plants to trees which are grown multiple seasons pot plants last four months

My method allows air pruning in even common plastic plant bags. The result is a root ball the shape of your bag, but the whole surface is just root tips going as close to 360 degrees as you can like a root porcupine.



Here is a 10-day old seedling getting its first re-bag. Those white tips are roots, observe no roots forming a mesh on the outside of the ball. The foam is not needed, with enough holes in your bags the process works equally well without. A week or so later it will have outgrown the next bag, and have incredible roots.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/roots.939464/
Feel free to watch the first video, to get a visual idea of how the two root balls are different inside.
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