Ok here what ive had gon throught with there seeds, All of the germed some of course took longer than others like most seeds. What my problem is i dont think two of the seeds they gave me were papaya like i ordered. This is my first grow so i might just be numbing, But i think theses seeeds are a tottaly different strain. They had fast shipping and stealth shipping aswell but idk about the gene's. There are 5 papaya, along with all the other strains ive metioned in my other posts.along with 5 aother strains. you mihgt not be able to tell from here but out of the 5 so called papya out of them are different from the rest. hope this helps you guys out