Any experts using Advanced Nutrients in a hydroponic system? (bubbleponics)

I think this is the way I'm going to go. What are your feeding schedules like from seed to harvest? (what size is your container?)

Do you only use Grow/Micro/Bloom? Do you throw in Big Bud Bloom Booster? do you replace bloom with big bud bloom buster? What about AN's B-52, Voodoo Juice, Bud Blood or overdrive? and do you mix in any other nutrients/boosters? Is there supposed to be some giant steroid stack for your plants or do you just use grow/micro/bloom 1:1:1 throughout the grow? When do you use the other nutrients? Would using multiple nutrients at the same time cause nute lock out?

Do you use grow/micro a couple weeks before adding bloom? Then stop using grow when you're a couple weeks away from harvesting and only use micro/bloom(excluding flushing)? Does the schedule of nutes change when you flip the lights and starting flowering?

What are some of the symptoms of under feeding your plants? What are some of the symptoms for over nuting?

This is the last key to the puzzle before I start my grow. Ive done lots of searches but haven't found what im looking for-so I thought id ask a million questions for some of the experts that others (aswell as my self) might be thinking about. Thanks guys, joint time.

Adosbulc said:

I think this is the way I'm going to go. What are your feeding schedules like from seed to harvest? (what size is your container?)

Do you only use Grow/Micro/Bloom? Do you throw in Big Bud Bloom Booster? do you replace bloom with big bud bloom buster? What about AN's B-52, Voodoo Juice, Bud Blood or overdrive? and do you mix in any other nutrients/boosters? Is there supposed to be some giant steroid stack for your plants or do you just use grow/micro/bloom 1:1:1 throughout the grow? When do you use the other nutrients? Would using multiple nutrients at the same time cause nute lock out?

Do you use grow/micro a couple weeks before adding bloom? Then stop using grow when you're a couple weeks away from harvesting and only use micro/bloom(excluding flushing)? Does the schedule of nutes change when you flip the lights and starting flowering?

What are some of the symptoms of under feeding your plants? What are some of the symptoms for over nuting?

This is the last key to the puzzle before I start my grow. Ive done lots of searches but haven't found what im looking for-so I thought id ask a million questions for some of the experts that others (aswell as my self) might be thinking about. Thanks guys, joint time.

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I might be able to help you a little bit, as I use AN, and are experimenting with some of their additives right now.

The 3 part nutrient works well, i've seen it in action, I just haven't personally used it. I currently use their 2 part veg and bloom formulas. You use Big Bud from I believe week 2 to 5, and then overdrive for 6 and 7. If you don't have overdrive, you can use big bud for 6 and 7 at half the dose of week 5. You use Big Bud in addition to your flowering G/M/B nutrients, it's meant to boost your levels of phosphorus and potassium for better floral production, and it works quite well.

One of the really cool things about a 3 part nutrient is your ability to tweak ratios. Stick with the AN ratio on the bottle, and see how it treats you, then do some research and try some other rations other people have used and see what works best.

To be honest, you're asking a lot of questions that can simply be answered by reading the labels on the AN products themselves.

The symptoms of over nuting your plants are yellow, crispy leaves and stunted growth. There hardly are symptoms of under-nuted plants, aside from slowed growth (it is far better to under nute your plants than to overnute them). The best strategy is to start low and slowly climb up.

Just because it has the word "grow" or "bloom" on the bottle doesnt mean you won't be using bloom during veg, and you won't be using grow during flower. The lucas formula for example does remove a bottle completely, but that of course isn't the only ratio that works. I'm not going to recommend an AN ratio myself, but do some research on 3 part ratios on these forums, and don't be afraid to use any ratios that are given for general hydroponics 3 part with your AN nutes. I've been reading that AN just copied their formula and relabled it... i'm inclined to believe that.

AN is the worst company in the business for hyping up their nutrients. They will sell you 12 bottles of product and make each one of them sound just as important as the other, and promise you percentage gains that are ridiculous on each.

Here are the products that I can from experience promise you give results: AN sensi 2 part (or AN 3 part) base nutrients, liquid big bud.

That's it.

I have yet to use another AN product that is worth even close to the money they are charging for it. Perfect example: Voodoo juice. Works great at boosting root mass, but costs a fucking fortune and does a job comparable to hydrogen peroxide or dutch master zone. I actually had more vigorous root growth using hydrogen peroxide at stages than voodoo, and hydrogen peroxide is a fraction (and i mean about 1/10th or less) the cost of voodoo juice, and it keeps your res crystal clean.

Start with hte base nutes and big bud, those are very good products, and very reasonably priced. If you're adamant on beneficial bacterias, fulvics, silica, or any of those additives, consider competitors products, as they almost always are far cheaper for the same if not better results.

Good luck.

Thanks man, appreciate the answers, pretty much told me everything I wanted to know. I will probably use hydrogen peroxide too as I have some kicking around, how many MLs/table spoons are you putting in per litre/gallon?
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It's very volatile stuff, so go very light. I use 2ml per gallon of the 35% stuff. So, in my 10 gallons of water I mix in 20 ml of hydrogen peroxide to the water, then let it sit for 30 mins so the oxygen releases into the water. Then, I add nutes, and add to my plants. Very important to do this right, or you'll burn your roots. GL

Right on, just read an article on it. How often do you personally change your tank, use more peroxide and then put new nutes in? From what I've read, most people do it every 2 weeks or once in between veg and flower and just top up with mixed nutes to get the proper PPM. Just curious as to how often you do it

Adosbulc said:

Right on, just read an article on it. How often do you personally change your tank, use more peroxide and then put new nutes in? From what I've read, most people do it every 2 weeks or once in between veg and flower and just top up with mixed nutes to get the proper PPM. Just curious as to how often you do it

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You *can* change your tank every 2 weeks and top off with nuted water in between, but I don't recommend it. I don't like having stale water in my DWC. I change my res every single week. I mix nutes for that week, then write down my PPM. Then, during the week the plants will drink more water than nutrients, so you'll have to top up back to your water level. So, I add water until I reach my original weeks PPM, then I rebalance my pH down to 5.5, and that's it. I do the PPM and pH balancing every single day. I only add peroxide at the beginning of the week's nute change as per my instructions above, adding it 30 minutes before the nutrients and letting it release oxygen.

stillcantroll said it all. i use the gh base newts with big bud and bud candy and i cant complain. change out my water every 6 days. and i take a sponge and get all the water out. plus the roots like that air bath in my bubbleponics system.

seriously? Advanced Nutrients is the BEST when it comes to hydroponics. I would say that it's something that works really well, especially when you use it a little lighter than the instructions say.

I like:

Grow-Micro-Bloom
Bud Candy
Big Bud

This is the basic recipe I like, but I tend to get some other additives when I want to ramp things up or I want to just try something new.

Totally check out AN - it's worth it in my opinion.

any of you guys used both sensi grow/bloom a&b insted of micro bloom grow? im assuming theyre basically the same, just wondering if anyone has noticed anything better with either of the products (more consistent PH balance, less chance of nute burn, etc)

i might switch to GH micro grow bloom and use bud candy and big bud...been looking at some of the prices of AN and not sure if its worth investing that much for my first grow


thanks for all the replies guys

Adosbulc said:

What are your feeding schedules like from seed to harvest? (what size is your container?)

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For the most part I run right around 70-75% of what the nutrient calculator recommends. Beyond that I make some seat of the pants adjustments based on how things look, I'm not really sure how to explain that because I don't know for sure myself. If it looks like they need more of something I do that. You learn to read your plants after awhile.

Adosbulc said:

Do you only use Grow/Micro/Bloom? Do you throw in Big Bud Bloom Booster? do you replace bloom with big bud bloom buster? What about AN's B-52, Voodoo Juice, Bud Blood or overdrive? and do you mix in any other nutrients/boosters? Is there supposed to be some giant steroid stack for your plants or do you just use grow/micro/bloom 1:1:1 throughout the grow? When do you use the other nutrients? Would using multiple nutrients at the same time cause nute lock out?

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I've used most of the additives at one time or another, but not all of them at the same time yet. I suggest starting simple with your base nutes (G/M/B or Sensi 2-part, whatever you prefer) and Big Bud. Stick with following the directions until you learn the ropes, just don't follow them exactly. Go to the calculator AN has on their site and run about 1/4th the directions say to. It's better to underfeed than overfeed.

Adosbulc said:

Do you use grow/micro a couple weeks before adding bloom? Then stop using grow when you're a couple weeks away from harvesting and only use micro/bloom(excluding flushing)? Does the schedule of nutes change when you flip the lights and starting flowering?

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Again, just stick with the directions. You use all three all the time, in different ratios depending on growth cycle.

Adosbulc said:

What are some of the symptoms of under feeding your plants? What are some of the symptoms for over nuting?

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Underfeeding usually shows up as poor growth, pale leaves, general sickly appearance in the more extreme cases. It's less of a problem than overfeeding, easily corrected by feeding more.

Overfeeding will cause browning (burning) of the leaf edges mostly on the tips. Once you see that it's already a problem, which is why it's better to underfeed than overfeed.

Start light, dial up slowly, and don't get ambitious. More isn't always better.