Attention Canadian Patients! HELP US ALL!

The government has opened a 75 day comment period on the new proposed regulations involving personal grows. the following link is a place where we can bring our worries and needs to their attention so i encourage as many people as possible to write the government in support of keeping laws the same or all out legalizing to destroy the value of marijuana and stop the violence they are so concerned about. PLEASE HELP INFLUENCE THE GOVERNMENT, I can only send one letter but im reaching out to you guys for support, dont fail me and your fellow patients! Thanks everyone!

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/future-avenir/consult_futur-eng.php
 

buckets

Well-Known Member
I'm working on my letter now dude but this is just a smokescreen. They have their minds already made up. They have to ask for feedback but they're drinking their alcohol and laughing at us because this is typically all us stoners ever do. There has to be more. Or we all get screwed. But for what it's worth I have a three page letter going out in the next day or so.
 

Tuvok

Member
Letter GONE!!!!! Health Canada Sucks ASS!!!!!

My meds cost will more than DOUBLE. I asked if this goes through will the make it so Health plan have to cover costs. Like that will happen.......
 

buckets

Well-Known Member
I've recently heard through the grapevine that multiple lawsuits are being filed against H/C. Keep it up Canada. Nail the ministers back to the wall! She didn't talk to any of the citizens. She just talked with those that receive a government paycheck like the cops and the fire brigade. Keep those letters going to her office though Please!
 
they should be sued, people who use this drug illegally probably have a medical reason, its just such a bitch to get through the legal process it should be completely wiped out imo
 

ditrbag1

Member
I don't know if many of you like or follow Jason Wilcox on youtube, but here is what he is putting together, in conjunction with a lawyer. http://www.mmarcoalitionagainstrepeal.com/ I agree with everyone here in the fact that we have to stop this before it gets passed into law, its just more madness by the current regime
 

OGEvilgenius

Well-Known Member
I'm working on my letter now dude but this is just a smokescreen. They have their minds already made up. They have to ask for feedback but they're drinking their alcohol and laughing at us because this is typically all us stoners ever do. There has to be more. Or we all get screwed. But for what it's worth I have a three page letter going out in the next day or so.
Include in your letter how incredibly hard you are going to campaign against them next election and anyone who supports this nonsense. This will make ears perk up a little. Then inform them a lawsuit is on the way. It is, on the way - by the way. It's possible we could see an injunction on any movement until it's heard as well - which could buy up to 5 years.
 

buckets

Well-Known Member
That would be so awesome OGevilgenius. I did send my letter to HC and I also sent a copy of it to Bob Rae the current liberal leader. I also wrote a different letter to every single one of the Liberal leadership candidates and mailed those off as well. I hope others do the same.
 

redi jedi

Well-Known Member
In your letters to the feds you should ask if pot will receive a DIN (drug identification number) so that it could be covered by a drug plan, like oxy's or chemotherapy.
 

buckets

Well-Known Member
You guys rock! Keep up the writing everyone! Don't forget to send stuff to the Liberal leadership candidates though. Trudeau is often on the fence on this issue so since he's the front runner he needs to hear your views as well. HC couldn't give a stuff so it's important to be sending trudeau a copy as well...dear mr trudea, here's a copy of the letter I just sent to HC. I strong oppose what health canada is doing with medical marijuana. If you want my vote, I need you to read the letter I sent to HC and come up with a medical marijuana policy etc...

Happy holidays!
 

Doobius1

Well-Known Member
Here's a copy of my letter. 2 pages

Health Canada

Re: Medical Marijuana Reform Dec 26, 2012

I hope this letter finds everyone who reads it in good health.
Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for me. I am a 49 year old man. I live with daily pain as a result of many years working very hard jobs for very long hours. My knees were destroyed by a job as a meter reader, walking over 10 miles a day for over 5 years. There are days when I cannot go up or down the stairs as a result of the arthritis in my knees. The pain is severe.
17 years ago I started my own business from nothing. I worked hard taking further toll on my body. Thankfully today I have good staff and do not have to do as much manual labour as before.
I found cannabis to help tremendously with numbing the pain and allowing me to sleep through the pain. The narcotics and pharmaceuticals my Doctor prescribed left me in a zombie like state. I could not take the side effects of the different medications and flushed them all. My family doctor refused to discuss cannabis so I had to find another doctor. What in these proposed changes makes me think my family doctor is going to change his opinion on prescribing cannabis to me?
I am an honorable, trustworthy stand up member of my community and simply do not agree with the proposed changes. I pay a lot of personal and business taxes and have never once been in trouble with the law. I grow my medicine for my own personal consumption. It is MY RIGHT as declared by a judge to have reasonable and easy access to this drug. Why is this right being taken away? It seems to me it is because of Health Canada’s lack of inspecting the licensed grows? It would take 2 minutes to inspect my grow area and count my plants. Why hasn’t someone come over?
I stay within my plant count, don’t sell any of it. Why am I being lumped in with a criminal element? I am very insulted that my government is including me in with this group.
These proposed changes are akin to taking away knives because some people stab other people with them. Just because someone abuses a knife does not justify taking knives away from everyone.
Mr. Harper has designed a law for 6 month mandatory sentences for growing 6 plants and now would like to take away MY RIGHT to grow my own medicine. See the connection? You must be aware of what he is doing? Does he really want to see the jails filled with sick cannabis users? It appears so and this is very saddening to see my government do this to its people. Many sick people will continue to grow and risk losing everything. And how convienent that you have everyone's address.
The costs of buying my medicine will be far out of my reach. With the changes I now will be forced to pay $1680 per month for my medicine? Any moral, normal person can see this is outrageous at the least!
So my options are what?
1- Shut down my little grow, throw out everything I paid for and worked so hard to get and buy my medicine, which very well may not be as effective as my own strains AND pay $1680 a month?
2- Or…grow my medicine illegally. Run the risk of going to jail, losing my house, business, reputation and watching my employee’s lose their jobs/houses etc.
3- Or…Suffer
Apparently Health Canada prefers #3. None of these options work for me. Is there another option I am missing?
Yes the program is being abused but that is a result of how it was setup and being run. It is like leaving the bank doors unlocked and then wondering why people stole the money. It was designed to fail.
The following are changes that should have been in place from the beginning.
The program should have included the following BEFORE a license to grow is granted
1- Fire and electrical code inspection. It is a current requirement when a new woodstove is installed into a home to have the fire inspector inspect it. Why should a grow area be any different? A simple form signed by the inspector stating that the grow area meets or exceeds code. This signed form must be submitted to HC before a license is granted. Exactly how much will this cost HC? Zero. The fire departments are complaining about this ‘problem’ let them inspect them. Simple solution.
2- Local law enforcement should have to be notified when a license is approved. Don’t hide behind confidentiality. Make the patient sign a waiver form that allows the police instant access. If you want to grow your own medicine, you must allow law enforcement access to the grow area at ANY time of day or night. No exceptions. If you do not allow instant access your license is immediately revoked. Simple. This takes away HC’s need for any inspectors at all. Let the police take care of the inspections. What will this cost HC? Zero. The police are complaining about this program being abused; let them do the inspections for HC. They will want to do this. Any legal conforming grower should not care as they have nothing to hide.
3- Take away the Designated Grower Program. You grow your own or buy it from authorized seller. This DG program was set up to be abused plain and simple.
I am sure the above recommendations would have been welcomed by the Police and Fire Associations. Every licensed grow area would be inspected and would be staying within the plant count with the above simple amendments. The safety of the neighborhoods and the people in the dwelling has been addressed. The abuse of the program is eliminated. And all this costs Health Canada nothing.
Instead, Mr. Harper has implemented a plan to throw sick Canadians in jail for growing a natural, effective medicine which has never caused a single death. His hate for this plant and the people who use it is obvious by his actions. The polls show the majority of Canadians do not agree with him, he does not care. As a lifelong Conservative, I assure you my vote will be going elsewhere in the coming election.
Thank you for reading.
 

buckets

Well-Known Member
Well said man! Make sure you also send a copy to the leader of the opposition Bob Rae so he gets the hint that it's important that they show a new plan!

Good job!

Buckets
 

buckaroo bonzai

Well-Known Member
I hate to say it but I have been watching this from Michigan and it looks like you guys are gonna be fucked for personal grows!

keep up the pressure and keep fighting for your rights!

this is big pharma coming to take over the market-IMO

they are slowly trying to do this here stateside also thru the dispensaries as the justification to control and regulate---

keep the right of access thru the people otherwise they will poison it and sell it back to you as medicine--jmo


good luck brothers and sisters of the leaf!
 

shaymuny

Well-Known Member
I always thought Canada was going to legalize this wonderful herb we all love and show there bretheren to the south the right way... hope it works out for the best...

Happy Farming :weed:
 

MrGrower1

Member
Here's a copy of my letter. 2 pages

Health Canada

Re: Medical Marijuana Reform Dec 26, 2012

I hope this letter finds everyone who reads it in good health.
Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for me. I am a 49 year old man. I live with daily pain as a result of many years working very hard jobs for very long hours. My knees were destroyed by a job as a meter reader, walking over 10 miles a day for over 5 years. There are days when I cannot go up or down the stairs as a result of the arthritis in my knees. The pain is severe.
17 years ago I started my own business from nothing. I worked hard taking further toll on my body. Thankfully today I have good staff and do not have to do as much manual labour as before.
I found cannabis to help tremendously with numbing the pain and allowing me to sleep through the pain. The narcotics and pharmaceuticals my Doctor prescribed left me in a zombie like state. I could not take the side effects of the different medications and flushed them all. My family doctor refused to discuss cannabis so I had to find another doctor. What in these proposed changes makes me think my family doctor is going to change his opinion on prescribing cannabis to me?
I am an honorable, trustworthy stand up member of my community and simply do not agree with the proposed changes. I pay a lot of personal and business taxes and have never once been in trouble with the law. I grow my medicine for my own personal consumption. It is MY RIGHT as declared by a judge to have reasonable and easy access to this drug. Why is this right being taken away? It seems to me it is because of Health Canada’s lack of inspecting the licensed grows? It would take 2 minutes to inspect my grow area and count my plants. Why hasn’t someone come over?
I stay within my plant count, don’t sell any of it. Why am I being lumped in with a criminal element? I am very insulted that my government is including me in with this group.
These proposed changes are akin to taking away knives because some people stab other people with them. Just because someone abuses a knife does not justify taking knives away from everyone.
Mr. Harper has designed a law for 6 month mandatory sentences for growing 6 plants and now would like to take away MY RIGHT to grow my own medicine. See the connection? You must be aware of what he is doing? Does he really want to see the jails filled with sick cannabis users? It appears so and this is very saddening to see my government do this to its people. Many sick people will continue to grow and risk losing everything. And how convienent that you have everyone's address.
The costs of buying my medicine will be far out of my reach. With the changes I now will be forced to pay $1680 per month for my medicine? Any moral, normal person can see this is outrageous at the least!
So my options are what?
1- Shut down my little grow, throw out everything I paid for and worked so hard to get and buy my medicine, which very well may not be as effective as my own strains AND pay $1680 a month?
2- Or…grow my medicine illegally. Run the risk of going to jail, losing my house, business, reputation and watching my employee’s lose their jobs/houses etc.
3- Or…Suffer
Apparently Health Canada prefers #3. None of these options work for me. Is there another option I am missing?
Yes the program is being abused but that is a result of how it was setup and being run. It is like leaving the bank doors unlocked and then wondering why people stole the money. It was designed to fail.
The following are changes that should have been in place from the beginning.
The program should have included the following BEFORE a license to grow is granted
1- Fire and electrical code inspection. It is a current requirement when a new woodstove is installed into a home to have the fire inspector inspect it. Why should a grow area be any different? A simple form signed by the inspector stating that the grow area meets or exceeds code. This signed form must be submitted to HC before a license is granted. Exactly how much will this cost HC? Zero. The fire departments are complaining about this ‘problem’ let them inspect them. Simple solution.
2- Local law enforcement should have to be notified when a license is approved. Don’t hide behind confidentiality. Make the patient sign a waiver form that allows the police instant access. If you want to grow your own medicine, you must allow law enforcement access to the grow area at ANY time of day or night. No exceptions. If you do not allow instant access your license is immediately revoked. Simple. This takes away HC’s need for any inspectors at all. Let the police take care of the inspections. What will this cost HC? Zero. The police are complaining about this program being abused; let them do the inspections for HC. They will want to do this. Any legal conforming grower should not care as they have nothing to hide.
3- Take away the Designated Grower Program. You grow your own or buy it from authorized seller. This DG program was set up to be abused plain and simple.
I am sure the above recommendations would have been welcomed by the Police and Fire Associations. Every licensed grow area would be inspected and would be staying within the plant count with the above simple amendments. The safety of the neighborhoods and the people in the dwelling has been addressed. The abuse of the program is eliminated. And all this costs Health Canada nothing.
Instead, Mr. Harper has implemented a plan to throw sick Canadians in jail for growing a natural, effective medicine which has never caused a single death. His hate for this plant and the people who use it is obvious by his actions. The polls show the majority of Canadians do not agree with him, he does not care. As a lifelong Conservative, I assure you my vote will be going elsewhere in the coming election.
Thank you for reading.

You really believe cops should be given even MORE power? "...Make the patient sign a waiver form that allows the police instant access....." They already take on the role of judge jury and executioner for suspected impaired drivers and suspected road racing. There are probably more dirty cops, than dirty growers, the biggest difference is......our tax dollars pay cops an
$80 000 starting salary, and it only goes up from there. You should be careful what you suggest, we'll be under communist rule before you know it.

"3-Take away the Designated Grower Program. You grow your own or buy it from authorized seller."

Really?........are you thinking about anyone but yourself when you blurt out this suggestion? Do you think anyone that lives in an apartment in a city should have to pay the prices you said you couldn't/wouldn't pay? just because they don't have the space to grow their own.

What about those in the final stages of life that choose to use this medication, do you think they should have to spend their final days farming? (assuming they are even physically able to)
 
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