Blackstar LEDs ACTUAL WATTAGE

Yodaweed

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Just bought a Kill-A-Watt meter to measure the actual draw of my two 240w blackstar V2.0 panels and my one blackstar ion 8 light and here are the readings:
Blackstar 240w Panel 1 : 135w actual draw
Blackstar 240w Panel 2: 135w actual draw
Blackstar ion 8: 165w Actual draw.
 

az2000

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Blackstar 240w Panel 1 : 135w actual draw
Blackstar 240w Panel 2: 135w actual draw
I have both the Blackstar 180w v2 HO & UV. They both draw 118w actual.

That's 65.5% of rated capacity. You get 56.2%. The difference gives an idea of the ratio of fan :: LED power. It looks like Lighthouse drives their LEDs around 50% which means they should run cooler and last longer than brands like California Lightworks that run there's in the 70% range. I.e., Lighthouse doesn't skimp on bulbs.

Seems like a positive.
 

cityworker415

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My CLW flares are very hot. But 155 at the wall on a 200 watt advertising is pretty good. Think overdrive

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Yodaweed

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These are the 240w UV v2.0 panels and the blackstar ion 8 426W pictures will be posted in the morning of the readings.
 

PSUAGRO.

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I have both the Blackstar 180w v2 HO & UV. They both draw 118w actual.

That's 65.5% of rated capacity. You get 56.2%. The difference gives an idea of the ratio of fan :: LED power. It looks like Lighthouse drives their LEDs around 50% which means they should run cooler and last longer than brands like California Lightworks that run there's in the 70% range. I.e., Lighthouse doesn't skimp on bulbs.

Seems like a positive.
You do realize that CLW's heatsinks are the size of a brick (fucking massive) where light house BS's are thin/flat POS for the wattage their drawing.................."semi-disposable" fixtures IMO....

Lighthouse skimps on everything!........ as their designed^^ to fail shortly after their warranty period(china baby!!!) and be replaced again & again& again& again...............you get the point;-)

But fuck it I'm on my 3rd $9 alarm clock from Target.......... http://www.target.com/p/room-essentials-rubber-alarm-clock-black/-/A-14141278#prodSlot=medium_1_10&term=alarm+clock .....I'm all about that rubber texture!!!:hump:lol
 

az2000

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My CLW flares are very hot. But 155 at the wall on a 200 watt advertising is pretty good. Think overdrive
How is that good? Hotter, driven at higher wattage... won't that lead to early failure?

Seems like skimping on hardware. Blackstars are driven at ~52%. Area51 at between 45-55%. Which means users of those lights are getting more LED bulbs per driven watt. Longer life, cooler operation.
 

az2000

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Lighthouse skimps on everything!........ as their designed^^ to fail shortly after their warranty period(china baby!!!) and be replaced again & again& again& again...............you get the point;-)
I'm not trying to defend Blackstar. I categorize it as a rebranded China import sold at a premium. (Not a good value, IMO.). Just that I didn't see anything odd about the 240w's actual power usage. Other than, perhaps the fan's contribution as we factor in an implied ratio between the OP's observation and mine with the 180w model. Driven at 50% sounds like a positive, all things considered. Receiving unused bulb capacity.
 

cityworker415

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Never said better, just info lol bloom booster in the last 3 weeks adds trichs like no ones business every time . that parts good

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Yodaweed

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Sucks that this ion 8 is advertised as a 426w LED light and doesn't even pull 200w here's the pictures of the readings the ion 8 cost me like 600$ and only draws approx. 165 watts. I should have bought an area 51 light , onyx ,advanced or apacheteche light :(
 

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Greengenes707

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How is that good? Hotter, driven at higher wattage... won't that lead to early failure?
Seems like skimping on hardware. Blackstars are driven at ~52%. Area51 at between 45-55%. Which means users of those lights are getting more LED bulbs per driven watt. Longer life, cooler operation.
Percentage that they are driven isn't the real problem...percentage drive just happens to correspond to a operating temp usually which is the actual cause of failure when "driven hard". A similar concept to how lumens/w based on hps spectrum is the standard for light measurement...but we know the same PAR can be created with less lumens because of a better spectrum(LED's). You must ask yourself what is really going on in there and why...

You are also assuming the same efficiency in the chips of CLW and BS...not the case I'm sure.

Take the companies and specific chips away from your thoughts and think about this...
If I can keep the chip at 50*c...I can drive it 100%... And I will get roughly the same life as the same chip driven at 50% that maintains a 50*c temp also.
And if I can maintain better thermal management at 70% than a chip at 35%...then it will last longer or just as long.
Stardust has referenced this before...we are all using cxa of the same bins(3 to choose from)...but who is has the best thermal management system is what will make theirs the true best use of the chips capabilities.

IMO the reason companies are driving them at the lower currents is to maintain heat more than anything. Next is efficiency. But I guarantee that if they could keep the heat manageable at a high currents they would be doing it. No one over the past couple years has gone for the efficiency claim too much...ya the better ones like AT and a51 are efficient and using great chips...but it's the output of those chips that is the main reason for being implemented. coincidently efficiency usually corresponds to output as well like it does heat.
I am not saying that CLW has a great TM system...but them driving their chips hard is not the issue in reality...the issue is that they can't manage the thermal characteristics...so driving them harder is not the best idea in that situation.

I hear this a lot about CLW and have seen their units in person my self many times. But how many have really failed...no one has reported a failure in the circles I roll in...just that they run hot.
And just for thought...a light operating at 50*c...fine temps...feels and runs hot(cobblers know what I'm talking about)...so unless we know what temps it is actually running at... the only thing we can say is that it doesn't work for the growing environment(warms it up too much)...nothing to do with operational longevity.
 
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