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Diskokobaja

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Its auto shark, in her 8 week of life from seed.. Only this girl si showing problmes

I'm using

AN ph perfect nutes, and black strip molasses .. I give them molasses on wateriong days.

I
feed,water, feed water.. On watering days I lower my ph with lime acid, never had any issues..

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im4satori

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the red/ orange spots is calcium issue

what are the npk numbers on the bottles your using and how much per gallon of each are you mixing?

whats your medium

eight weeks is about done... not much to do now

but maybe you can adjust your nutes for the next time
 

Johnei

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8weeks from seed, not 8weeks into flower I assume looking at the pics, buds still have lots of time.

I recommend you give them a few only fresh water waterings the next few times, before going back to your nutrient feed schedule.
 

Johnei

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Bottom right corner of the pic, see the leaves with the purple veins running up the leaf.....
also the 'blueness' of some of the leaves...
I believe phosphorus is low, and also you need a good few clean waterings before feeding again because I see some other shit that might all be caused by imbalance or ph issue down below.. better be safe then sorry..

After a few clean waterings, when going back to feeding...
...up your phosphorus and Potassium PK booster, and use a balanced main nutrient alongside that contains all trace minerals, like CaMg

This is my advice.
 

chemphlegm

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8weeks from seed, not 8weeks into flower I assume looking at the pics, buds still have lots of time.

I recommend you give them a few only fresh water waterings the next few times, before going back to your nutrient feed schedule.

its an auto, it is 8 weeks from seed and is ill.
 

chemphlegm

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Its auto shark, in her 8 week of life from seed.. Only this girl si showing problmes

I'm using

AN ph perfect nutes, and black strip molasses .. I give them molasses on wateriong days.

I
feed,water, feed water.. On watering days I lower my ph with lime acid, never had any issues..

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unless the AN line instructs you to use molasses with every watering you failed. why molasses in your plant? a google will show many growers using molasses like that having the same issues. molasses goes in pot roast not pot plants silly.

where do outdoor plants get their molasses from?
why would you use molasses this way?
plants dont eat molasses.
molasses attract pests
molasses has no vitamins that a plant can use
take a look at your plant, not going to finish properly ever. With AN nutes I've never seen a plant fail
If you want to feed microbes do it with a tea, add wood chips and other organic matter, your microbes love that, just like outdoors.

better luck next time.
 

Johnei

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This plant just needs more food, particularly PK booster.. and will come out of it, I can see.
with some fresh waterings in between

and yeah... put the Molasses away, chemphlegm is right about that, it's probably fucking shit up, You've got to know what you're doing before you do.
 

Johnei

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You have basically never given them a break from food in the water.

Do what I said earlier, feed them only fresh clean proper pH'd water for a few waterings.. then up food PK and complete balanced nutrient.
 

chemphlegm

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You have basically never given them a break from food in the water.

Do what I said earlier, feed them only fresh clean proper pH'd water for a few waterings.. then up food PK and complete balanced nutrient.
this plant should be finished right now. Every time I've dicked a plant by over feeding during finish...NOTHING I've done will make it finish properly, especially more nutrients at the end.
Did you ever see a finished plant, then with added PK in its last weeks?
I would feed this one to the bunnies and begin again, following the directions on the highest quality nutrients I could afford.
 

Diskokobaja

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the red/ orange spots is calcium issue

what are the npk numbers on the bottles your using and how much per gallon of each are you mixing?

whats your medium

eight weeks is about done... not much to do now

but maybe you can adjust your nutes for the next time

Let me start again slowly..Im using PH perfect AN Bloom nutes a and b part with big bud, rhino skin,b52 and overdrive.. whole hobbist level..
I ffed tthem by AN chart/calculator.. I got 2 fresh candy auto and 3 auto shark pyramid seeds.. I mix my nutes in 2 11l buckets, with air stoned tap water.. all girls are feed watered from that 2 buckets.. Only THIS ONE GIRL IS SHOWING PROBLEMS...This is auto flower, she has at least 4 weeks by my eyes/perspective..
My other suspition are root aphids...
 

Diskokobaja

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Bottom right corner of the pic, see the leaves with the purple veins running up the leaf.....
also the 'blueness' of some of the leaves...
I believe phosphorus is low, and also you need a good few clean waterings before feeding again because I see some other shit that might all be caused by imbalance or ph issue down below.. better be safe then sorry..

After a few clean waterings, when going back to feeding...
...up your phosphorus and Potassium PK booster, and use a balanced main nutrient alongside that contains all trace minerals, like CaMg

This is my advice.
I must say that is another plant,I don't know what strain it is, but that is photoP girl, and I tout it was autoF, so I'm abusing her with my kind of lst and waiting these auTos to finish so I can GO 12/12 on that girl, and i have 4 little Sweet Black Angels in their 10th day of life... So we are back to this little sick girl, how can I be sure its cal. def and not root aphids/gnats??
 

Johnei

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this plant should be finished right now. Every time I've dicked a plant by over feeding during finish...NOTHING I've done will make it finish properly, especially more nutrients at the end.
Did you ever see a finished plant, then with added PK in its last weeks?
I would feed this one to the bunnies and begin again, following the directions on the highest quality nutrients I could afford.
I didn't quite understand you here, are you saying looking at that pic you think the plants are finished?
I think they are still in full flower mode not close to ready.
 

Johnei

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The girl in the pic, i would give clean ph'd water for the next few waterings, then when feeding again, use only base nutrients a small touch higer than you were before, with just BigBud added at half strength. then make sure clean watering the next one after that, maybe even two. That's all I can say.
 

Diskokobaja

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what soil is being used?
klassman dellman potground H

@chemphlegm first of all congratulation to you sir, you mannage to pick my nerv... why mollases?? are u serious? it saves me money for carboload/bud cany and Obvous until now cal magh supp.. That like 60˘$ saving.. Why molasses?
Nutrition Facts
Molasses
Amount Per 100 grams

Calories 290
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0.1 g 0%
Saturated fat 0 g 0%
Polyunsaturated fat 0.1 g
Monounsaturated fat 0 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 37 mg 1%
Potassium 1,464 mg 41%
Total Carbohydrate 75 g 25%
Dietary fiber 0 g 0%
Sugar 75 g
Protein 0 g 0%
Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 20% Iron 26%
Vitamin D 0% Vitamin B-6 35%
Vitamin B-12 0% Magnesium 60%



Or we are all dumb?? https://www.zamnesia.com/blog-molasses-and-cannabis-taking-your-soil-to-the-next-level-n352
https://cannabisgrowing.blog/2016/07/09/molasses-as-marijuana-fertilizer-organic-fertilizer-tricks-for-your-grow/

And yes that plant was under 100w cob diy led...divide that on 5 led bins.... So that is the reason she was so behind..

Can at least anybody tell me how to check if those are root aphids/gnats fault=?
 

Johnei

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Molasses substances do not get used in 2 seconds and then done, you should not be feeding with every single clean watering. It will build up. the sugars will grow bacteria so fast and to huge levels, you can actually fuck up the available root oxygen down there with the huge population of bacteria removing the o2 for their own purposes, and roots suffer. Also as the bacteria take over ph can shift in the medium and fungi will be less and less and fungi are our real workers down there in the soil. You don't want to use too much molasses, too often. Just advice. Do what you want of course. :D
 

Diskokobaja

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Molasses substances do not get used in 2 seconds and then done, you should not be feeding with every single clean watering. It will build up. the sugars will grow bacteria so fast and to huge levels, you can actually fuck up the available root oxygen down there with the huge population of bacteria removing the o2 for their own purposes, and roots suffer. Also as the bacteria take over ph can shift in the medium and fungi will be less and less and fungi are our real workers down there in the soil. You don't want to use too much molasses, too often. Just advice. Do what you want of course. :D
Ok I will skip mollases this time..
 

Johnei

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Your pic right here^
I would say those plants are hungry, but at the stage of buds they look to be at, they are yellowing perfectly actually. Good job.
 
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