Cuttings the poor mans way....

Blueberry2008

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Ok lol, this is gonna sound sad but this is what I am dealing with. I am going to top my plants in about an hours time 30min before lights out. Now, I am really poor right now so this is what I am thinking and please tell me if this will work or what way is better. :-|

1) Take top off and dump it into rooting solution and plant into soil directly.
or
2) Take top off and dump in a glass of water waiting for roots to show up.

also I do have some superthrive. Would this even work or should I just throw the tops out in the garbage and it was a bad idea to start with??
 

skunkman98536

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NO NO!!!!!

Dont cutt the top COLA!!!! wait tillthe side branches grow out .. thats what u use to make clones man!!!! ... Have u not researched?!?!? man!! and cut 45 degree angle dip in water to dislodge air bubble that ucd possibley be in the stem then .. yes u can either put it in water or soil .. up to you ...GL!
 

Blueberry2008

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ok no worries thats what I thought but my friends keep telling me thats what they did and worked fine.. but it's either that or just throw it away.. Also I was aware of the 45 degree angle for the cutting.. I dunno... just better then throwing it away?
 
Cloning is not really an expensive thing, Im pretty confused with what you are trying to say tho. Why would you justcut them to trash the tops? I dont get it
 

hopper of grass

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Wow! I've been seeking the Yoda of clones, sure enough my quest continues. LMFAO! Why is it that no one can answer the frequently asked question; "How can I clone my plant". All the answers I've read are all the same. I am looking for the unorthadox method cause the orthadox one isn't working for me. I would rather read a language that I am familar with, such as; instead of explaining how to clone how about listing in detail the things that do go wrong and how to correct them instead of the o'l compost.
Please, if Yoda is anyone or know how to find him please guide me as I am the Humble one.
 

DWR

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Wow! I've been seeking the Yoda of clones, sure enough my quest continues. LMFAO! Why is it that no one can answer the frequently asked question; "How can I clone my plant". All the answers I've read are all the same. I am looking for the unorthadox method cause the orthadox one isn't working for me. I would rather read a language that I am familar with, such as; instead of explaining how to clone how about listing in detail the things that do go wrong and how to correct them instead of the o'l compost.
Please, if Yoda is anyone or know how to find him please guide me as I am the Humble one.
oh what the heck im gona say it.... WHAT THE FUCK ??

Sry i dont understand anything ^^
 

gvega187

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the clone will work but ... its like wasting tons of bud ..when u do that with the main cola
wait now im confused too. So if you take the main top of a plant off as if cloning off the top as suggested...will this decrease yeild? Technically the 1 top should split into 2 and if your not already flowering it should not lead to a decrease in production or yield..am I wrong to say this and if so is the FIM topping technique the only effective one?
 

chromer

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In my experiences, topping doesnt decrease overall yield, the main cola will simply be replaced by 2-4 smaller buds that are equal size. So for all those people who love the monster colas, dont top.. but if your working with tight space restrictions any type of stress training (FIM/topping/LST) can potentially increase yield -- not decrease it.

Whether you top or not, the plant will produce close to the same yield... generally speaking.

This subject isnt black and white, grow rooms (and personal ideas for that matter) vary greatly... so individuals have to manipulate their plants for their best interests. Whats best for me isnt whats best for you

Blueberry: although i'm sure you've already topped, by the looks of those pics, you wont be able to both top and clone, there aren't enough nodes on those plants. Wait for a few more nodes, then you can cut a nice clone while leaving sufficient lower growth.
 

gvega187

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In my experiences, topping doesnt decrease overall yield, the main cola will simply be replaced by 2-4 smaller buds that are equal size. So for all those people who love the monster colas, dont top.. but if your working with tight space restrictions any type of stress training (FIM/topping/LST) can potentially increase yield -- not decrease it.

Whether you top or not, the plant will produce close to the same yield... generally speaking.

This subject isnt black and white, grow rooms (and personal ideas for that matter) vary greatly... so individuals have to manipulate their plants for their best interests. Whats best for me isnt whats best for you

Blueberry: although i'm sure you've already topped, by the looks of those pics, you wont be able to both top and clone, there aren't enough nodes on those plants. Wait for a few more nodes, then you can cut a nice clone while leaving sufficient lower growth.
Yes, I have heard that only certain genetics respond well to topping. Would you guys say topping is overall worthless in terms of yeild unless cultivating something like bigbud or blueberry, which tops very well with many massive tops? BTW i agree with u about mr. Berry's situation...let them girls veg out a lil more and clone from bottom 1/2 of le plant.

p.s. sry for kockblocking ur thread about cloning berry.
 

moon47usaco

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Well if i understand correctly you ARE going to top weather you clone or not... And you just want to save the topped plant matter... So you are going to save the topped material by replanting it (clone)...

Sounds like a good idea to me... I prefer the water method i find that the cutting will stay alive longer soaked in water rather than taking the chance that it is getting enough water from the soil... I find that there is no need for a dome with water clone either... Once i see good roots and the beginnings of new veg growth i know its good to stick back in the ground...

Thats just me though... =]

I think what he means by not having $$$ for a good clone is all the areo and bubbler cloners and other methods that require more materials than just a cup with water (i use VERY diluted nuts 1/4 or less) or a cup of soil and therefore more $$$...

Maybe im daft... =]
 

gvega187

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oh i c lol...aerocloners are bogus and so is the other whatever u mentioned. Just get a cheap thray & dome from your local store. Rockwool will also be there for approximately the same price as the tray $10 each? If you are so poor that you cant throw $20 at some good quick clones then mebe u should check out LED lighting too? LOL!

p.s. im sure aerocloners knock off a day or 2 to root, but not worth your poorman budget.
 

Blueberry2008

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lol wow can't believe the really good response I received about this... Now what I ended up doing was topping the blueberry all of them. threw out the tops. Just my friends swear they have planted the tops and it grew another plant. but anyways I appreciate everybodys input.. I have attached some photos for you all to see. I will veg for another week or two now and just bloom them and wait till the fall before getting into clones and all.
 

Blueberry2008

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nope 16/8 :D but ya a 400w hps... just pretty much doing as a hobby... not the best I've seen but blueberry will still be kewl to smoke.. gonna hit the NL or WW next time prob both and will have a bit more money to get a 600w or a 1000w for the fall. But considering there's like 4 feet of snow outside and I have this inside is kewl in it's self :)
 

skunkman98536

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k bro ... haha what a cowinka dink! i JUST ordered 10ww seeds and got 5 free red shivas... heres something interesting ... if u ever want to have a veg room and a seperate flfower room....u can veg with CFL's reallly wellll... but use ur hps to flower.. u will notice little if any diff veg from there as long as u use ur hps to flower .. i use my 1000w mh light to flower(with side lgihting floros)... awesome results...but the CFL vegging and hps flowering ... good idea ..... think bout it ... :)
 

Blueberry2008

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alright I will after this round I will invest a bit f money and do things a bit better then the round after that even better :) All in search of that ultimate high! besides gives me something to do as I love to smoke my brains out makes it cheaper also :)
 

greendemon

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when you top a plant to get it to y. Your not taking a like three nodes worth you only take the very top ball you can feel it in your fingers tinny leaf cluster at top. When you take three nodes each node would have buds spurouting out to the cola size. You want to top in veg once or as many as you want to make it bushy. And you wanrt it to be growing a week before you flower. Im not the most experienced but i try to take in as much as i can and to pass it along.
 
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