PJ Diaz
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They recently added it back now that Kyle Kushman is somehow connected to their operation:
Kushman’s Grape Ape – Dark Heart Nursery
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Bad Karma
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I lost my Grape Ape mother earlier this year to spider mites.
She was in my garden for several years, and was a personal favorite of mine, a real sweetheart.
Coincidentally, right after losing GA, I was able to acquire GDP.
Well holy shit.They recently added it back now that Kyle Kushman is somehow connected to their operation:
Kushman’s Grape Ape – Dark Heart Nursery
That is some great news!
Maybe now I can replace my lost Grape Ape mother.
Thank you for the update.
growerNshower
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Is the kushmans cut a diff pheno of grape ape?
PJ Diaz
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Hard to know, but if I had to bet I'd say yes.
Here's the cut of Grape Ape that DH used to carry, which they say was created by Bret Bogue of founder of Apothecary Genetics: https://darkheartnursery.com/strains/grape-ape/
Here is the new version, which apparently is Kyle's creation:
https://darkheartnursery.com/strains/kushmans-grape-ape/
growerNshower
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Did some more searching, several threads on other forums talk about Kushman being the source for grape ape (popped the seed?). Kyle also commented on his forum that Grape Ape is "clone only", so I'm guessing DHN just got a fresher cut of the same, but edited their page to reflect the new cut and try not to scare people away from the old dud?
thenotsoesoteric
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The original came from apothecary in the Bay area if im not mistaken but maybe they gave beans to Kyle? But I never remember Kushman having anything to do with grape ape.
BigJonster
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Grape ape cut is still floating around. It's an unmistakable cut and full of vigor
Bad Karma
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Speaking strictly as a gardener, that’s part of the reason I prefer Grape Ape, compared to GDP.
It clones easier, and vegs a little faster, than GDP in my experience.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m thankful to have this cut of GDP in my garden, but Grape Ape is my true purple love.
It will be interesting to see if the Kushman cut of Grape Ape lives up to my high standards.
growerNshower
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I've got an "urkle" cut from mendo, will be interesting to compare to the kushmans grape ape. Already I see the kga has MUCH longer internodal spacing than my urkle, but could be hormones from the nursery?
Stem rub is similar...what I would call "cigar tobacco" smells on flex.. kinda repulsive actually.
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Cookie Chris Genetics
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Anybody run the GMO Cookies from Dark Heart Nursery? Does it look legit to you?
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thenotsoesoteric
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He didn't make it, Apothecary did. Kushman's grape ape just came from that seed stock.
waterproof808
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I dont see why GMO would be fake, its a very common cut these days.
BongChoi
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I have not run DHN offering but I did get the clone from my buddy this year. One tell tale sign of gmo is the fingers on the leaves do not spread out from eachother that much and they will start overlapping, with the fingers mostly pointing pretty straight forward off the leaf stem. And the smell is very stanky, ridiculously smelly in a funky foul way. The flowers have some ingrown calyxes, where one calyx will swell up like a double wide calyx, with multiple inside of them and a dense puff of hairs sticking out from it.
CaliWorthington
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It sure would be nice if Dark Heart would add some payment methods that are used in this century. I'm ready to send samples in for testing, but have to find a checkbook or order more checks first. It's either that, or a bank wire transfer.
thenotsoesoteric
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They should just call it plant virus detection and remove the word Marijuana. Then they could legally take credit cards, lol.
But im guessing its more convoluted than that.
Cookie Chris Genetics
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That is exactly what I've got. Cloney soprano is trying to charge 1k on strainly for the cut when Kaka has it for 100... What a world lol