Final DAYS- Pre harvest- poking hole in main stalk?

I have been doing alot of research and this will be my first post after a whole year of studying almost every single post i can find worth reading on RIU.

I am interested in harvesting the most. Alot of us can make it all the way to harvest but we still have problems with the actually harvestingm, trimming ,drying, curing, ect...

First i will ask my questions and then i will report some details on experiments i have done personally and what products i have used!
( i also will be posting my grow journal in full within the next month. From seed to right before they go in the jars. and then keep updates on how the curing process is working for me.



?????????? If you were to poke a hole in the main stalk lets say a week before harvest would this stop the plant from being able to capilary react and pull nutrients into the plants?

If so would'nt this be a great way to stop nutrient intake ? It would seem to have a greater benefit than flushing or atleast add to the over all affects/effects of flushing!?!

This grow was from seed:
Strawberry Cough (wierd coloring, maybe they dont like my feeding compared to the other strains), Hindu Kush ( This may be the tree in the garden of eden, cuz holy shit!!, Big Bud x Bubble Gum( huge yields loves to be fimmed) ,Nyc Diesel ( smell so strong it hurts)

Hermies: I have used Purple MAXX ( humbolt ) and aquashield(botanicare) as a foilar sprays for plants that show "nuts" (bananas) and have stop plants from herming out!
I also noticed that i missed bananas that were blowing up dropping pollen all over , i sprayed the plants down with Purple MaXX and everything worked out!

Rhino Skin (silica) / GRAVITY : I saw an increase in yield and noticed that even the bottom branches that i usually lollipop made its way to the canopy and i ended up with a huge amounts of tops. I think when you guys see how many tops I was able to produce on each plant you will be jealous. The reason why i used rhino skin is because i decided to go full strength on gravity and purple maxx this time which is a really letting my nuts hang type of move but i decided to do it since i havnt notice any burn on previous grows.With that being said I wanted the stems to be able to handle the weight of the buds after the gravity set in and took effect. Thank god i did because some of the little stems that are growing off the branches cant support the weight of even the popcorn buds. ( took 2 weeks to see hardening from gravity and purple maxx took effect almost instantly) I now have the plants packed together holding each others tops up and also use sticks / wire and whatever else i can rig in the mix to keep this stable.

FIMMING / LST : I fimmed the fxck outta my plants. Out of 14 plants I ended up having 6 herming out due to stress.( i purposely over did it and you will see when i post my charts from journal where I have purposely stressed plants)
I was told by a master grower who breeds that stressing plants help "weed" out weak genetics: basically saying a strong female with good genetics will never herm!
I gave them away to a buddy who collects pollen and experiments with breeding. Any whoozle I lst'd and fimmed and notices that I can get 8 or more colas of equal size on each plant. On my best plant this round I got 12 main colas with 8 of them being clustered into one big ass cluster fuck of a bud. The other 4 colas on this same plant are on each side of the plant. Maybe from rotating the colas that were furthest from the light actually grew bigger,so there ended up being 4 fist size colas as tall as 6 inches each.

Purple Maxx: stops herms, brings out more and bigger trichomes, causes color changes. ( strawberry turned red tint, NYC turned Purple, Hindu and big bubble gum didnt change colors. I noticed black tiny flies on leaves and in soil and I treated leaves with purple maxx and I put half a potatoe on top of the soil in each bucket and let the soil dry out hellava ( 2 days more than usual) and they went away no problems since.

Bud Ignitor: I cant say this works or not because Ive used products that were the same or used for the same purpose before so all my grows have a veg to flower spike.
I will say Bud Ignitor does do something. It gets its named changed over and over. I will not recomend advanced nutrients or any other company especially AN. But I honestly believe that us as growers should do more research and leave honest opinions. Does it work , prolly. Will I buy it again ! FUCK NO it was almost $100.

Bloombastic: amazing. Use just like gravity. use at low strengths, with no other nutrients, and raise lights as high as possible. I would suggest Gravity because the price difference but bloombastic is very good and more people like me will recomend atleast running a trial and error with it. I am sure it will be another nutrient that we all will be questioning its use and effects/affects.

Welcome. I would think drilling a hole in the stalk would stress the plant and it would either stunt its growth from the shock and/or direct its energy to repairing its stalk and thus taking away energy from bud production. HOWEVER, it could shock it enough that the plant's go'na think "S***, this is the end...I got'ta make my buds as big as possible so I can get knocked up before I die." I'd be way too scared to try it. So far k.i.s.s. works for me.

K.I.S.S. ? I guess that would apply if we were monkey but dude im a martian....huge difference.
Monkeys like tress I like outter space....I can understand some of you being affraid of newer heights but Ive been self medicating since before my balls dropped.my bong is my space ship and my meds are my fuel... Feel free to jump on as i pass your trees on the way to the good ol cloud "9"

I wouldnt do it more than a week before harvest. Maybe poke a hole in the main stalk 3 days before harvest and then leave in dark for 48 hours.
I dont know i was just wondering. I poked one of my plants but I wont know for another 2 months if it actually makes a cleaner smoke.
I guess the real question is when does the plant have the least amounts of nutrients?
For example if you let your soilless dry out your ppms rise up because the salts are not diluted with water. so when you water the salts become diluted again. But does the plant take up the salts even if the soil is dry and when does the plant not use nutrients during the day or nite?

K-keep
I-it
S-simple
S-stupid
basically by keeping it simple ppl and not over-engineering things ppl are having gd success

I understood K.I.S.S. lol I google everything,.

I understand that concept but if we kept cars simple we would suck as human beings. At first God only wanted us to praise him. But then he wanted blood. Now he wants money.
You get where im going with this. Through out the Bible they always speak of how to sow your seeds for a better harvest. Even then 1000s of years ago they still improved on the quality of any and everything. Im not saying for those who havent dialed in there "ideas" and enviroments yet should go out and experiment at the cost of there bank accounts. But seriously if your like me and if you go "praise" your plants, bless your soil and reap what you sow then of course you want to know how to make a plant produce 4 ounces and how to run nutrients to the very end for maximum potentials without the sacrifice of shitty smoke.

If you were just going for a bunch of trichomes to make a hash with then life would be easy but since we actually love to smoke regardless of what actually gets you " high" and smoking herbs will never change. If you gave me a phat nugget of Kush or a pill filled with twice as many trichomes i would still pick the nugget of kush.
Its almost like comparing crack and coke. but lets only speak of the greener gods!

Dude, you want big harvests, then give them light, lots of light. Big harvests are directly related to how much light the plant has received over it's lifetime. Not Fertilizers or additives. The plants can only process as much product as light will allow.

Peace

butchering the stalk in hopes of higher yield is an old bullshit wives tale. Lower the humidity, reduce your light on duration and keep them happy. If you just have to "SHOCK" or stress them (and your using hydro) give them a watering or two with COLD water..like 50 degrees.

are you sure yall are smoking buds? seems like a bunch of burn outs answered my questions.

I never said I wanted to butcher the stalk! Nor did I think i was going to get a bigger yield.
I said can you poke a hole in the main stalk on the finals days before harvest to prevent the stalk from using any of the remaining nutes in the medium.

And I agree with the pretty bottle theory but at the same time people dont go to grow stores because the have to its because most of the time the "additives" actually work.
Now do you have to use them at a high dose. NO! Y not just use them at 1/4 strength and stay true to the base nutrients and micronutes!

original question was "If you were to poke a hole in the main stalk lets say a week before harvest would this stop the plant from being able to capilary react and pull nutrients into the plants?"

This is old style harvesting. That is how they used to do it down in Colombia. Ever heard of Colombian Gold? They would make it by doing exactly that. It causes the plants to turn to a tint of gold.

I would also like to add they only did it when the plant was ready to harvest. It is like a final flush, cuts the nutrient intake and the plant consumes all the phosphorous and other chemicals in the plant to be used. While it slowly kills the plant. As in why its gold colored its dead. lol

After you poke holes in the stalk it's important to completely leach your soil with as much water as humanly possible. I mean lots. Then let your plants sit in the dark for 3 days. No, wait, let's make it 10. Ten full days in the dark. Come harvest, you've gotta walk into the grow area with a lit cigarette singing "Sha-na-na". Make sure you grab each plant firmly by the base of the stalk and hastily get that root ball into a boiling pot of water. I can't emphasize how important this step is. It is crucial you next hang each plant, roots and all, upside down in a dark place to let all of that THC energy leach into the buds. The white fluff is good, much like the layer of mold surrounding aged cheese. After several days you may notice a heavy mildew stench; it's smoking time.

Upon suggestion of a dispensery owner yesterday, I went to the shop and drilled a 3/4 # hole in all of my OG Kush yesterday. I will pick tomorrow two days later. Am told roughing them up at the end does make them do one last "get beautiful" before the end. More resin is the suggestion and desired outcome. We will see...

dubb313 said:

are you sure yall are smoking buds? seems like a bunch of burn outs answered my questions.

I never said I wanted to butcher the stalk! Nor did I think i was going to get a bigger yield.
I said can you poke a hole in the main stalk on the finals days before harvest to prevent the stalk from using any of the remaining nutes in the medium.

And I agree with the pretty bottle theory but at the same time people dont go to grow stores because the have to its because most of the time the "additives" actually work.
Now do you have to use them at a high dose. NO! Y not just use them at 1/4 strength and stay true to the base nutrients and micronutes!

original question was "If you were to poke a hole in the main stalk lets say a week before harvest would this stop the plant from being able to capilary react and pull nutrients into the plants?"

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Oh, sorry man I misread the question. You nailed it...Stoned! The answer is No. If you want to stop the capillary action try taking some loppers and cut just above the roots. That should to do it.

You're Welcome

I poked a hole in the main stalk of my strawberry cough and it did what blazac said. it got super dense and much more crystals and turned into a gold tint. Beautiful. Im glad i tried it and it worked. And howzer md how did you get so far in life being a GAYBO?
Seriously how come it cant be just the cool people who like bud...


Clark kent your name is cool, what you said was cool
Balzac very cool name and what you said very cool ( columbian gold or acopolco gold is very cool and old school and you get much props)
Might zepplin... cool name and pretty cool post

And then we got the clown .....
Please come back to the cool crowd brotha...we dont need ya but we dont wanna get high from our buds and start laughing at you neither
lets meet in the middle, you grow and smoke and dont tell us about it unless you find some kind of break thru in the science of cannabis plants!

Pictures will be up soon in my journal that I am about to put together. If you appreciate the art and the plants then you will love to look through my trials and errors

HowzerMD I get your humor. Lets roll all the myths into one grow and shoot for the stars huh...Well Regardless of who you are , what you do, what you know you dont have to waste your time on me broski!

I may be a punk to you or atleast your sarcastic style puts me in the state of mind that you are trying to punk me.
But even then if you were actually cool people you would of atleast just stuck with what the original post is about...

And just the site of the dude in the picture will always haunt my mind. I swear thats face you just want to throw a hella molly whopp sucker punch to the chin and just watch the fat dude crumble into the fetus position as you stick your main stalk with the hole poke in it up .... well you get it.. you seem like a ass hole bro

dubb313 said:

HowzerMD I get your humor. Lets roll all the myths into one grow and shoot for the stars huh...Well Regardless of who you are , what you do, what you know you dont have to waste your time on me broski!

I may be a punk to you or atleast your sarcastic style puts me in the state of mind that you are trying to punk me.
But even then if you were actually cool people you would of atleast just stuck with what the original post is about...

And just the site of the dude in the picture will always haunt my mind. I swear thats face you just want to throw a hella molly whopp sucker punch to the chin and just watch the fat dude crumble into the fetus position as you stick your main stalk with the hole poke in it up .... well you get it.. you seem like a ass hole bro

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Hahaha. I am an asshole. And you seem like an idiot, BRO.

HowzerMD said:

After you poke holes in the stalk it's important to completely leach your soil with as much water as humanly possible. I mean lots. Then let your plants sit in the dark for 3 days. No, wait, let's make it 10. Ten full days in the dark. Come harvest, you've gotta walk into the grow area with a lit cigarette singing "Sha-na-na". Make sure you grab each plant firmly by the base of the stalk and hastily get that root ball into a boiling pot of water. I can't emphasize how important this step is. It is crucial you next hang each plant, roots and all, upside down in a dark place to let all of that THC energy leach into the buds. The white fluff is good, much like the layer of mold surrounding aged cheese. After several days you may notice a heavy mildew stench; it's smoking time.

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For the record. I was almost in tears after reading this. Hilarious~!

Dubb313, you may think highly of your immature & cowardly name calling behavior, however all others in here with an intelect higher of, let's say, a fucking thumb tack, don't really find you amusing. The only reason your on here, is so we can all see & enjoy how very little you actually know. LoL, I bet you don't even have any grow charts, pictures, or any other vein diagram bullshit you were preaching about. Just do us all a favor, stay out of RIU; or least till your balls drop little fella. Have A Wonderful Day!

Logan rhodes a true gaybo indeed...
You will be soon surprised and i will take the time to post my entire grow just for fun since you and clown boy seem to be such idiot assholes.
Can all the bitch ass people stop with the bullshit.
I studied RIU for entire year and most of you are straight up idiots but I will give credit to a few who actually make sense.
All I did was ask a question in hopes of maybe someone out there who may have tried the method.
Lets make this post Logan Rhodes and his gay friend Verse Me.
Put up your grow journal against mine when i put it all together.
And if you want to talk about balls when ever you want we can cage fight and we can put it on youtube.
And maybe little but around here they call me DADDY FAT SACKS...ASK YOUR MOM she knows
at 145 lbs ill have you on meds for the rest of your life big dog
keep it ganster