Stonedbloke1
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Looks like a male but I'm a new grower so not 100%. I just had to bin 2 of mine after I'd checked with someone on here.
First Grow - Closet - Amnesia Fast - HPS - Coco
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Consul
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Yes mate, thanks for the response! Male confirmed, I started another thread in general section for confirmation. It's been removed and destroyed, tbh it was growing way too quickly and spindly anyway, I did have my suspicions. The other two have hardly even begun to show their sex yet, amazing how much quicker the male developed and produced those sacs seemingly out of nowhere! Down to two plants now.
Update time
After being paid I'm expecting a big delivery to complete my grow wardrobe and get everything dialed in. Here's a list of what I've ordered:
4" Ram Mixed Flow Inline Fan 199m3/h
4" Rhino Hobby Carbon Filter
4" 5m Multilayered Ducting
6x Jubilee Clips
Auto-oscillating USB fan
Holesaw Kit (drill bits)
8m Adhesive Hook and Loop tapes
50m heavy duty black gaffer tape
50x 100L heavy duty refuse sacks
1m2 insect mesh
400ml matt black spray paint
I'm gonna install extraction, then seal all gaps on the sliding door wardrobe by stuffing the back sides and top with the poly bin liner and taping over lmao then build an airtight door by forming liners together with duct tape and cardboard and attaching the hook and loop to this and the wardrobe frame for easy(ish) access behind the sliding door. This will be connected to a passive air intake light baffle made from cardboard at the bottom. It's a bit ghetto but I think it's the best I can do on a limited budget with limited DIY skills. The grow space should be completely sealed and dialed in this week and allow me to up the light to 400/600w during second week of flowering. LFG!!!!!
Also going to setup a nursery area with an LED panel to get second crop on the go maybe half way through flowering, just give them a huge veg time and throw them in the wardrobe after these 2 have been harvested! Excited
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Consul
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I finally completed the growspace over a week ago, it was an absolute bastard to saw the hole for ventillation but got there in the end finishing it off with a hammer and flathead screwdriver lol. I managed to drop the HPS on the big plant tho... burned it a bit but fortunately it and the light are okay.
Here she is beside her mysterious partner at day 57 from seed:
I'm hoping there's only 4/5 weeks to go until harvest. The stretch is real. Just about tripled in size and still going. This is day 22 of 12/12.
Here she is beside her mysterious partner at day 57 from seed:
I'm hoping there's only 4/5 weeks to go until harvest. The stretch is real. Just about tripled in size and still going. This is day 22 of 12/12.
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Consul
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currently feeding both 1.5ec (tapwater is 0.5ec) that's like 2.1ml/L of canna A and 2.4ml/l of canna B.
big one is drinking around 2.5L per day before run-off and small one is sipping about 500ml.
Dialed the light up to 600w the other day and even with extraction the wardrobe hit 34.5c lmfao. the outer room is warm tho, regularly sitting around 27c.
final observation: the onset of flowering took longer than expected, suspect it may have been down to light leakage before finishing the wardrobe, am i right in thinking it should maybe be a bit further along at this stage? (day 22 of 12/12 after 35 day veg).
currently feeding both 1.5ec (tapwater is 0.5ec) that's like 2.1ml/L of canna A and 2.4ml/l of canna B.
big one is drinking around 2.5L per day before run-off and small one is sipping about 500ml.
Dialed the light up to 600w the other day and even with extraction the wardrobe hit 34.5c lmfao. the outer room is warm tho, regularly sitting around 27c.
final observation: the onset of flowering took longer than expected, suspect it may have been down to light leakage before finishing the wardrobe, am i right in thinking it should maybe be a bit further along at this stage? (day 22 of 12/12 after 35 day veg).
Failmore
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If you want to bring the temps down you need to bring down the ambient air temp. My room is about 8 degrees F hotter than my ambient temp. You want your grow room to be 27c on the hi end. Ideal is around 25. I have to keep my place at a set temp to keep my room at the correct temp.
If it is not possible such is life.
Do not worry about counting weeks. Just let it slip your mind what week you are on. Trust everybody when they say this. To much stress counting weeks. Life is easier when we just let life happen. The plants are done when they are done. Not when the timer says so. Should only start to stress when almost all the hairs are brown. Then you start to check the trichs. See how much amber you got...not enough come back next week and check again. No need to check every day. If they are not done let em go another week.
Plants look great.
If it is not possible such is life.
Do not worry about counting weeks. Just let it slip your mind what week you are on. Trust everybody when they say this. To much stress counting weeks. Life is easier when we just let life happen. The plants are done when they are done. Not when the timer says so. Should only start to stress when almost all the hairs are brown. Then you start to check the trichs. See how much amber you got...not enough come back next week and check again. No need to check every day. If they are not done let em go another week.
Plants look great.
Stonedbloke1
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I'm a first time grower and I did my own head in counting lol.
Consul
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cheers bro. i regularly open door on the room to outside, despite this im around 28c average in growspace, and 21-27c in room. the ducting terminates just above window with what i hope is most of the heat dissipating outside, the room is like its fkin lead lined tho and retains heat until i open door to outside (windows are always open, curtains sometimes closed). madness my man. im glad the strains are seemingly resilient to heat stress and still going for it!!!!!! i counting the weeks because i was supposed to travel up to scotland on the 28th of october but may patch it considering this fkin PANDEMIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 30th incoming and idgaf aslong i grow some dank shit as an achievement
Consul
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counting what my man? HMU with ur first grow
Consul
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alright ladies and gents
its DAY 74
just over 6 weeks since i switched to 12/12
shit has been crazy recently. my landlord has decided they are going to sell the property and its really put my stealth to the test.. we've had estate agents, photographers and random people viewing the house walking past my wardrobe... i've had to time it right and switch off and hide extraction just before they invade and pray that the smell doesn't escape into the room... fkin intense i'll tell you that much. thankfully they might have a buyer so i should hopefully be able to see this grow out without any more interruptions
little did they know that if they slid open the wardrobe door they were so close to and peeled back the legendary binbag screen... they'd encounter this...
not so happy with bud development at this stage but i suppose i shouldn't ask for much considering i've kept the HPS at 250w due to continued heat issues... thankfully with cooler weather i'm now able to keep the growspace around 27c during the day, if i push the light up to 400w it shoots up to 30c+ and the tops are only like 6" away from the reflector.
I broke my rule of only using A+B and ordered boost and pk 13/14 last week after the plant seemed to be choking on all the nitrogen i've been feeding it. the leaves started clawing and it was throwing out really scrawny 3 and then 1 fingered leaves at the tops. i think this will negatively affect yield and should have been feeding boost from the start of flowering so it could perhaps more easily process the built up nitrogen after stretch.
here's some more pics... if anyone is out there please let me know what you think! i'm praying these scrawny buds fatten right up in the remaining few weeks
oh and.. no more visitors plz.
i suppose the question is would it be worth dialing the light up to 400w for temps around 30c
its DAY 74
just over 6 weeks since i switched to 12/12
shit has been crazy recently. my landlord has decided they are going to sell the property and its really put my stealth to the test.. we've had estate agents, photographers and random people viewing the house walking past my wardrobe... i've had to time it right and switch off and hide extraction just before they invade and pray that the smell doesn't escape into the room... fkin intense i'll tell you that much. thankfully they might have a buyer so i should hopefully be able to see this grow out without any more interruptions
little did they know that if they slid open the wardrobe door they were so close to and peeled back the legendary binbag screen... they'd encounter this...
not so happy with bud development at this stage but i suppose i shouldn't ask for much considering i've kept the HPS at 250w due to continued heat issues... thankfully with cooler weather i'm now able to keep the growspace around 27c during the day, if i push the light up to 400w it shoots up to 30c+ and the tops are only like 6" away from the reflector.
I broke my rule of only using A+B and ordered boost and pk 13/14 last week after the plant seemed to be choking on all the nitrogen i've been feeding it. the leaves started clawing and it was throwing out really scrawny 3 and then 1 fingered leaves at the tops. i think this will negatively affect yield and should have been feeding boost from the start of flowering so it could perhaps more easily process the built up nitrogen after stretch.
here's some more pics... if anyone is out there please let me know what you think! i'm praying these scrawny buds fatten right up in the remaining few weeks
oh and.. no more visitors plz. i suppose the question is would it be worth dialing the light up to 400w for temps around 30c
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Consul
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Well! It's day 92 since germination and we've just entered the 9th week of flowering.
I kept the lamp at 250w. This beast stretched into the light and has been experiencing pretty brutal foxtailing. The colas are pretty monstrous but quite loose and airy. 8 days ago I actually clipped the tops to fight the stretchy foxtailing and try encourage the colas to grow laterally.. she responded well after all the punishment she's been through and thankfully not noticed any signs of her going hermie from the stress.
This fucker looks completely different than any other example i've found online of the same strain being grown. All others look nice and pretty with tight internodal space and lots of 5-7 fingered fan leaves surrounding dense buds.. Then you've got this THING... spitting out single and triple fan leaves for weeks looking like its revegging and growing all gnarly haha.
Regardless.. it smells absolutely divine, as does the bagseed, and i can't fkin wait to smoke them! Whenever they're finished...
Will probably chop as soon as I spot a single amber trichome on the big one lol. The wee bagseed looks slightly further along.
Behold:
and the bagseed left to do her thing.. growing as nature intended...
Maybe i'll need a bigger jar for all this ugly ass weed, pic for size reference
I kept the lamp at 250w. This beast stretched into the light and has been experiencing pretty brutal foxtailing. The colas are pretty monstrous but quite loose and airy. 8 days ago I actually clipped the tops to fight the stretchy foxtailing and try encourage the colas to grow laterally.. she responded well after all the punishment she's been through and thankfully not noticed any signs of her going hermie from the stress.
This fucker looks completely different than any other example i've found online of the same strain being grown. All others look nice and pretty with tight internodal space and lots of 5-7 fingered fan leaves surrounding dense buds.. Then you've got this THING... spitting out single and triple fan leaves for weeks looking like its revegging and growing all gnarly haha.
Regardless.. it smells absolutely divine, as does the bagseed, and i can't fkin wait to smoke them! Whenever they're finished...
Will probably chop as soon as I spot a single amber trichome on the big one lol. The wee bagseed looks slightly further along.
Behold:
and the bagseed left to do her thing.. growing as nature intended...
Maybe i'll need a bigger jar for all this ugly ass weed, pic for size reference
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Consul
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Well troops... Mission Complete.
I chopped them at 14 weeks. Vegetation time for the Amnesia Fast was 5 weeks and the Mysterious Bagseed only 3. Both flowered for 9 weeks until most of the crystals were nice and frosty with a few amber trichs on the buds here and there.
They were both foxtailling bad due to various issues such as light proximity - even at 250w it was too warm with tops only 6" away from reflector + potential nitrogen over-abundance mid flower + I also think there wasn't enough inflow volume of fresh oxygen/co2 into the wardrobe with maybe too much negative pressure from the inline fan pulling out around 170m3/h. This resulted in very wispy buds that i'm sure could have been left to flower indefinitely as they kept putting out more and more white pistils on loose groupings of calyx.
Regardless of this... I'm very happy with the final quality and quantity of the harvest, the monster has more than made up for it with sheer size I also think all the stress it went through in flowering helped to produce frostier nugs
Here's the bagseed a day before harvest
and the Amnesia Fast
Bagseed trim
Amnesia cola v pepsi
Trimmed
Hung up to dry. Bagseed in full on the left lol compare the yields.
They're ugly.. but oh how they glimmer :')
Bagseed v Amnesia cola
bagseed small dry yield
One of two trays of Amnesia
I chopped them at 14 weeks. Vegetation time for the Amnesia Fast was 5 weeks and the Mysterious Bagseed only 3. Both flowered for 9 weeks until most of the crystals were nice and frosty with a few amber trichs on the buds here and there.
They were both foxtailling bad due to various issues such as light proximity - even at 250w it was too warm with tops only 6" away from reflector + potential nitrogen over-abundance mid flower + I also think there wasn't enough inflow volume of fresh oxygen/co2 into the wardrobe with maybe too much negative pressure from the inline fan pulling out around 170m3/h. This resulted in very wispy buds that i'm sure could have been left to flower indefinitely as they kept putting out more and more white pistils on loose groupings of calyx.
Regardless of this... I'm very happy with the final quality and quantity of the harvest, the monster has more than made up for it with sheer size
I also think all the stress it went through in flowering helped to produce frostier nugs Here's the bagseed a day before harvest
and the Amnesia Fast
Bagseed trim
Amnesia cola v pepsi
Trimmed
Hung up to dry. Bagseed in full on the left lol compare the yields.
They're ugly.. but oh how they glimmer :')
Bagseed v Amnesia cola
bagseed small dry yield
One of two trays of Amnesia
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Consul
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I left some stalks attached as I felt the buds were drying out too fast after hanging for 5 days in the growspace, it slowly went from 60% humidity to 50% today. Trimmed them up best i could with a pair of scissors and jarred. Will burp couple times a day for a few weeks. Overall they smell fucking amazing, with a really good high from each of them. Even though i only got a small amount from the bagseed (small jar on the right) that i've taken to calling 'myst' aka mysterious, the smell, taste and high all contrast perfectly with the amnesia. All-in-all, happy with the results from my first grow, there's lots of room for improvement and its amazing to think about how much better it could be while still being fkin decent now.
That's all from me as I need to move out in January and have to find something else to do with my life lol. Least I got some tasty bud to tackle the future with! Cheers
Edit: If anyone is interested I'll be sure to come back with the final weight... give or take an ounce or so smoked
if i get a set of scales. I'd estimate around 4-5oz tbh. Not too bad for 1.5 plants under 250w. Maybe better conditions such as increased light distance and improved airflow intake would net closer to 8oz.
That's all from me as I need to move out in January and have to find something else to do with my life lol. Least I got some tasty bud to tackle the future with! Cheers
Edit: If anyone is interested I'll be sure to come back with the final weight... give or take an ounce or so smoked
if i get a set of scales. I'd estimate around 4-5oz tbh. Not too bad for 1.5 plants under 250w. Maybe better conditions such as increased light distance and improved airflow intake would net closer to 8oz.
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Consul
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All-in-all I got 3.5oz from the mangled Amnesia fast and a half oz of 'myst'. Right in time for my 30th bday during the height of the pandemic.
This grow kept me sane, it was such a good experience. Then I smoked that shit and played fuck out cyberpunk and loved every second of it while everyone was hating cos it was so buggy hahaha.
My harvest lasted me a good 4+ months as well. Though as soon as I did run dry I was wishing I didn't have to throw all the trim away before getting kicked out.
After reading through this I think I've changed a lot since and unfortunately not for the better, the past few years I've fallen deeper into despair and depression. I need to get better. If anyone reads this, just, don't neglect your mental health like me <3
This grow kept me sane, it was such a good experience. Then I smoked that shit and played fuck out cyberpunk and loved every second of it while everyone was hating cos it was so buggy hahaha.
My harvest lasted me a good 4+ months as well. Though as soon as I did run dry I was wishing I didn't have to throw all the trim away before getting kicked out.
After reading through this I think I've changed a lot since and unfortunately not for the better, the past few years I've fallen deeper into despair and depression. I need to get better. If anyone reads this, just, don't neglect your mental health like me <3
B|uDreamer
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Hey man it's been a rough few years for everyone. Try not to be too hard on yourself. You're correct that you shouldn't neglect your mental health, and I'm in that same boat. Hell I'm even browsing this forum years after having last posted, or last grown. Point is, you recognize that neglect and recognize you're not in a good spot, thats a hell of a base to build off of. You can get to a better place, and I damn sure know I'm trying to get there too. Nothing to be embarrassed about and I hope you find some bright spots in the near future.
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Consul
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Mate I really appreciate you taking the time to respond to me a stranger and saying that, thank you. It practically confirms you're a great person in case you weren't sure, really man. Recognizing imo is good and bad for me, I've known forever that I need help, I know what to do, how to go about doing it, yet still I don't, it's shite. A vicious cycle. Anyway I don't mean to drop this on you, I should stop being a twat and speak to a doctor of course. Just mentioning in case anyone can relate and know that they are not alone, as you have done for me.
That's interesting that we are in the same boat right now. Are you thinking about starting another grow? I've just germinated 10 autos, may be stupid but I'm looking to turn my life around and anything is better than nothing, even if I got busted I'm really past caring about that, I think this could only be positive for me.
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