First Time PC Grow w/ Easy Ryder + LowRyder In Soil And CFL's

Hey RIU, this is my first time growing. I'm growing one easy ryder and one lowryder in a pc case. I'm hoping to get an ounce-ounce and a half.
:leaf:Supplies:

  • PC case gutted of everything but the power supply and built in fans
  • Two 60w 2700 cfl bulbs for flowering and two 75w 6500 bulbs for vegging
  • A bunch of foil tape
  • Two 4-inch pots
  • One fem easy ryder seed from the tude and one lowryder seed that i don't know the gender of from dope-seeds
  • Thermometer
  • Miracle-Gro potting soil and a tiny scoop of miracle-gro nutrients (the blue powder stuff)
  • Super-thrive
  • The water I will use is distilled and has a ph of about 7
  • The temperature in the box is about 86-90F
  • 2 Double Big Gulp cups for adjusting the plant's distance to the light

Now heres all my questions...


  1. Will the pots be big enough for the plant or will I need bigger ones?
  2. Is there enough light in there?
  3. How much will these plants probably yield?
  4. Does anyone have any experience with this strain? Is the quality of the bud nice?
  5. Has anyone ever used super thrive for their plant? My step-father says its the best thing ever
  6. Is the 24/0 light cycle good? I've heard mixed reviews.

Day one 10/13/2010:

Started germinating the seeds using the paper towel method, I'll check on them in the morning and update, I'll try to get some pictures of the case up tomorrow also.

Day two 10/14/2010:

8 in the morning and the seeds haven't done anything yet, i'll check back in later

6:30 pm and the lowryder seed has sprouted about 1/8th of an inch, but the easy ryder hasn't done anything yet

day three 10/15/2010:

The seeds were done in the paper towel so I planted them both and tossed them into the grow box. The purple thing is in there because the lights aren't adjustable and I want the plants closer to the lightView attachment 1214951

day four 10/16/2010:

Tossed the purple thing and went to good o'l 7-11 for some double big gulpsView attachment 1215816 The lights aren't touching the soil, but they are veryyy close

it's about 7 pm and both of the plants have sprouted, I cut holes in the cups so the pots would fit right into them and allow me to cut the cup to whatever height i need.
IMG_1402.jpg<- that's the lowryder
IMG_1407.jpg<- and that's the easy ryder

Thanks :D
 

DDS

Member
Hey man, per attitude the easy ryders need 20/4. I planted three of them and have each in 3 gallon pot with 14 bulbs total and fox farm soil. I'd be thrilled w/ an ounce and a half with my setup so I don't think it'll happen in the PC case. Hopefully I'm wrong though and we both get more.
 
Finally got some pics, The seeds have germinated and I've potted them.IMG_1393.jpgIMG_1391.jpgIMG_1392.jpgIMG_1394.jpg



Why is no one replying? :| I feel like i did something stupid.
 

bigv1976

Well-Known Member
24/0 is fine but you need to get those temps down a bit. Here is some helpful info.

LOWRYDER - THE OFFICIAL GROW GUIDE

Ideal Growing Methods
When planted indoors, the Lowryder has the ability to grow very well in soil-less systems or in soil mixtures. For soil mixtures such as pots or beds, Lowryder can be cultivated from a mere seed into a bud for a span of only two months.
Throughout this period, only 18 hours of light each day is recommended. This is due to the fact that switching the light cycles down to 12 hours runs the risk of diminishing yields and even shortening the plants life cycle even more.
Since Lowryder&#8217;s life cycle is brief, cloning it is deemed as an impractical method - growing only the plant and not the seed. Hence, by default, the Lowryder is then regarded as a &#8220;sea of green&#8217;s greatest choice&#8221;.
Due to the fact that the seedlings and even the flowering plants can be sustained in a similar room, the Lowryder showcases better possibilities for small up to medium ranged home growers. This even includes the so-called &#8220;staggering&#8221; of one&#8217;s indoor harvest. After which, a continuous system of harvest can be accomplished by periodically cultivating new plants that will replace the harvested ones.
This will ensure that your so-called &#8220;grow room&#8221; is constantly full of fresh buds. Hence, maintaining this system of cultivation provides you with the convenience of evenly dividing your workload.
In order to achieve the best results, place either a jiffy plant or pellet directly into a 1 up to 2-gallon pot. It is best to alternatively use peat pots that are about four inches in size. Once this is prepared, you can then place the rootbound females inside the assigned plant bed. Make sure that these rootbound females have already gone through the &#8220;sexing&#8221; phase for about 17 up to 20 days. As compared to the initial method, this actually produces smaller plants. Under this method also, 12 up to 24 hours of daily light are needed. However, studies show that it is best to make use of 18 hours each day. You can reduce it to 16 hours following the initial month, provided that there are no yields being lost.
For those who will plant this outdoors, once you have finished soaking the plant, you can start by sowing it directly onto the soil. For this process, you can use 2 gallon plant beds or pots. It is also indicated that you can plant the Lowryder&#8217;s new stands until the latter part of the summer season. Similar to the factors affecting indoor harvest, doing the latter can also assure you a continuous supply of Lowryders. Aside from this, it is best to avoid making any transplants. You can only do this once the plants are diagnosed as rootbound. Thus, you can remove the Rouge males only during a three-week cycle.
Factors that Affect its Growth
Since the Lowryder is highly versatile, it has the capability to grow in basically any type of &#8220;grow environment&#8221; or climate. In fact, it can even set the regarded &#8220;envelope of growing&#8221; aside and mainly focus on harvest areas like the North West Territories, Finland and other short-seasoned, Northern or high altitude locations. Plus, it can adapt rather fairly to window sills, backyard gardens, and patios. This is primarily due to its relatively small feature that can conceal its real identity.
Furthermore, nothing can compare to the quick maturation capability of the Lowryder! If other varieties are still going through the flowering phase, outdoor growers of Lowryders are, at the same time, basking their feet and benefitting from their harvests already.
Its Amazing Characteristics
The Lowryder has the ability to skip the stage of vegetative growth. It basically jumps from its seedling stage towards its flowering period in an instant. Studies also show that
Lowryders have the shortest life cycle and height feature amongst the famous cannabis species.
This is especially true with its male plants that showcase such attributes after approximately 17 up to 20 days. This is while its female counterparts show themselves only a few days after. Thus, these plants will then go through the flowering phase, provided that there is a continuous lighting system.
Lowryder females can generate a height that is no taller than approximately 16 up to 20 inches. The typical height for these females would be about 12 up to 16 inches only. Pot size, light intensity and appropriate pH are factors that play a significant role in influencing the female Lowryder&#8217;s size during its maturity. This means that given the best conditions, these female Lowryders will generate a bigger yield for its growers. Since these plants produce a main cola, if they can only obtain adequate lighting, their lower nodes will profusely branch out.
Moreover, its height and yield will depend on evident growth factors. A good example would be such plants that are only kept inside small-sized peat cups, which are then placed on a grower&#8217;s windowsill. Based from the factors mentioned above, this scenario will yield a mere 1 gram. Plus, the plant will grow only up to a maximum of 6 inches, having no branching features whatsoever. On the other hand, a plant placed inside a 4-gallon box and provided with high-intensity lighting, along with good methods of cultivation being put into practice, it can yield better results. It will yield a 45-gram, profusely branched, two-foot wide bud monster.
With regards to the use of fertilizer, during the initial two-week period of growth, Lowryders need to be provided with a weekly dose of light feedings. This is actually a nutrient &#8220;grow&#8221; type solution, equipped with micronutrients. Thus, when these plants become a full flower, a &#8220;blooming regime&#8221; is necessary. This should start from week 4 up to week 6. Hence, biological amendments or root stimulators that are of the Mycorise-type have the ability to significantly enhance the plant&#8217;s growth.
The Flowering Time Average

Outdoors: ripens in approximately 60 days &#8211; This is subsequent to the sowing of the seeds.
Indoors: 40 up to 45 days &#8211; This is following a seedling stage of 15 up to 20 days.
As an important note, studies show that 100% of such plants actually showcase the so-called &#8220;auto-flowering&#8221; genotype.
Its Average Height
The average height of Lowryders is approximately 12 inches. Its minimum height would be approximately 5 inches while its maximum height would be 16 inches. Thus, this will really depend on the lighting and regarded slight phenotype variants.
The Awaited Yield
As mentioned, depending on the lighting and other significant factors, Lowryders can yield up to approximately 45 grams. In fact, there was even one situation where in a 96-gram yield was accomplished. However, this was achieved under a process called &#8220;hydroponics&#8221;.
Hence, it is vital to understand that the yield is extremely and majorly dependent on the volume of light it obtains. If these plants are provided with less than the average conditions, they will remain extremely small. Even so, they can still create decent smoke outputs.
Moreover, Lowryders&#8217; buds are close-quartered and compact, as well as slightly variable and irregular in features. It also has a high leaf/bud ratio, which goes with its thick pistils that possesses a medium-sized, orange colored and individually classified calyxes. Although it has tendencies to become &#8220;top-heavy&#8221; when grown indoors, it is rather typical to find its budding sites starting very near the soil already.
With regards to the result, you will get a &#8220;High&#8221; that feels uplifting, surprisingly strong and well-rounded. In fact, this is more appropriate for certain outdoor activities. Aside from this, the smoke emitted is described by many as smooth and equipped with an earthy, pleasant undertone. You will find its smell as not that overpowering and its flavor, quite unique and satisfying.
Feedback
There are so many requests for additional information about the Lowryder&#8217;s nutrient necessities. The factors affecting this would include the amount a grower can shell out in order to purchase these nutrient products.
There are advanced nutrient products that can be bought on discounted rates. You can also adapt its formula for your own usage. These advanced nutrients actually provide a full program for sustaining a desired 8-week growth. It will also come packaged with a guide that will feature various growing mediums.
Hence, for the initial two-week period, you can make use of the ones recommended for seedlings. After this, you can then shift to the Micro 2+ Light Feeding system. This is already for the entire life cycle of the Lowryder. There are those who actually skip weeks three and five in order to follow a six week program instead. This can be done right after the sexing of the LR&#8217;s.
As a general rule, you need to treat these Lowryders similar to seedlings in the initial 2 up to 3 week time frame. Subsequent to this, you can shift to the so-called &#8220;light bloom program&#8221;. During the initial 2 weeks, you can feed them with a type of transplanting/seeding formula. After this, you can switch and use an N-P-K 1-2-1 or 5-10-5 ratio of bloom fertilizer. You can give this weekly during weeks 3 up to 6. For week 7, you only need to feed it with water that is pH-balanced.
Thus, for those who practice organic methods, you can plant the Lowryder into an organic soil mixture and add Bat Guano into it.
 
Thanks for the replies, I went down to Home Depot today and bought two 6500 75w bulbs and replaced them in the box, then I took out the purple thing and got two big gulp cups from 7-11 and put the pots on top of them so they are closer to the light, I'm going to just cut the cups accordingly

Goober617 said:
Do you have any odor control in there???? Have you used.this box before?
I do not have any odor control, and I haven't used this box before, this is my first grow. :p

lotsOweed said:
Been slow around here...is the 60w the actual wattage or incadacent(sp) equivalent? Also you want 6500k bulbs for veggin
I'm pretty sure it's the actual wattage, I'm not 100% sure though, I threw away the packaging it came in.


bigv1976 said:
24/0 is fine but you need to get those temps down a bit.
Thanks for that information you posted, I'll work on trying to get those temps down a little, I might have to keep the lights on for less time per day to do that though.

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lince

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the replies, I went down to Home Depot today and bought two 6500 75w bulbs and replaced them in the box, then I took out the purple thing and got two big gulp cups from 7-11 and put the pots on top of them so they are closer to the light, I'm going to just cut the cups accordingly
Those bulbs look really small, they are probably 75W equivalent and therefore they are 19 real watts ? that may work while the plants are very small, but definitely not enough for them to grow.
 
Took some pics earlier today, it won't let me edit my first post to put them there.


Here they are, the stems are starting to straighten out and grow upwards.

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lince

Well-Known Member
They may be, but when I went to home depot the only cfl bigger than those were the 100w and they weren't much bigger.
Well, the minimum light I'd put in there is 4x23W (which I've just put in my box) and I would actually recommend you to get some bigger bulbs 30W or 45W if you can and get 2 or 3 of them (more lumens per bulb). Or even an 105/125W if you can fit it in the box. It's not much more money and the lumen difference is huge, totally worth it.

And your lights are 19W, not 75W.
 

crazytrain14

Well-Known Member
ill be watching. i would recomend more lights than 2 after the 2nd week. try to keep those bulbs anywhere from 3 inches away from the bulb. let me know if i can help.

peace
ct
 
I'll try to figure out my lighting problem, thanks for the advice. I might not be able to get more lights in there, if that's the case I guess I'll just have to settle with tiny plants.


Pics of day 6, 10/18/10
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Day 8, 10/20

One of my plants has a little round leaf on the bottom that looks like it got twisted or something and the tip of it is turning yellow, anyone have any idea what might have caused it? (pics below)

And as for my lighting problem, I might re-do the top of my box and take out the white light fixture things and drill holes into the case and put 4x23w 6500's in there for a while then get 4x23w 2700's for flowering if my budget allows, if anyone has a better fix for my problem let me know, I can measure my box and post the dimensions if needed.

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lince

Well-Known Member
It's true that the plants seem to have a problem.

How often do you water ?
Do you give them any nutes ?
What are the temps like in the box ?
How far do you have the lights from the plants ?

About the lights, if you wanna make it easier and save some money, you could go 12/12 from seed and get only the 2700k bulbs. You will also save some money on the electricity bill :)
 

Easy420forme

Active Member
Day 8, 10/20

One of my plants has a little round leaf on the bottom that looks like it got twisted or something and the tip of it is turning yellow, anyone have any idea what might have caused it? (pics below)

And as for my lighting problem, I might re-do the top of my box and take out the white light fixture things and drill holes into the case and put 4x23w 6500's in there for a while then get 4x23w 2700's for flowering if my budget allows, if anyone has a better fix for my problem let me know, I can measure my box and post the dimensions if needed.

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you need at least 100W (actual) per plant at least. And with a PC case you probably should order one or two large CFL lamps, whatever will fit in you PC case. I am using a cab so don't know your exact issues, but CrazyTrain from above is experienced PC grower and has it down. He is good. I was visit his grow pages and see what you could learn. I guarantee he discusses his ever changing light plan. Peace and gl I'll sub to watch as I have purchased a easy ryder/AK47 seed from Attitude Seed Bank.

I started growing 4 bag seed and I am down to only two plants, but really 1 and a half. I fucked up all four seeds during germination/seedling stage basically. I'm in week four of my first ever grow.
 

Goober617

Active Member
I was wondering just how "stelth" this box is and if an autoflower
strain can succesfully be grown in almost totaly discreet location (like a small studio with a bunch of ass sniffing nosey nieghbors as the kid puts it)I think the main issue would be odor control though, no? Could prob. seal that box up nice as far as
light leaks right?
 
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