Themountainman
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Alright, medium-1/2 mg potting1/2 petemoss light is a lizard warming light but flourescent 24 hours and food has been shultz 10 20 10 (I KNOW ITS WRONG FOR VEG) plants hidden in 1 x 2 ft drawer light 12 in from bottom 6 from plant tops small 5 dollar fan that has been shifted possition regularly
This is somewhat complicated because the seeds are a high quality outdorr
sativa obtained from an aclaimated grower from the area. this farmer
recomended starting inside/ force to flower/ transplant to rush the crop
which is now aprx. 3 weeks old.
prologue:
due to limited space half of aprx 50 seeds went from germ in straight water
to the ground. first time for this messed it up. never tested soil first but
it seemed hard and dry was iinfested with red ants. only one came up as a
side question are red ants an indication of infertlle soil? potting mix was
put on the spot but very lightly and most definately insuffeciently. what
happened here, just because i want to use location again cuz its packed with
overgrown crap thorns and bees. however this thread is in regards to the
other half of the seeds grown indoors.
problem: leaves first curled down/inwards ramshorn got bright green/yellowish
and then sagged. within 3 hrs they have withered to the condition shown in
the picture ( 2 plants progressed and one with the problem just starting)
catastrophes that may or may not be the cause:
1) some plants were started under another light that was too hot and had to
be transplanted. not likely that they are any of these cuz most of them
died...
2) Early in grow large percentage of plants were lost to quick killing
fungus? or maybe stem snapping from rough training? the reason i think this
is different is because these shrivled and died within one day (during first
week) and showed no crazy leaf curling/ slumping.
3) since oringinal medium had no drainage whatsover and spidermight/fly
infestation all plants were transplanted into seperate sun treated soil mix
contained in newspaper homemade planting pots shown in the picture of my
healthy plants. Could this thing be simple transplant shock and have no
relationship to nutrient? i used rooting powder with fungicide for transplant
and in shaking off excess some plants were contaminated and showed small
burns but again are not the same plants that are dying now
4) due to poor mixing i undoubtably have hot spots and ph range is large -
6-7 but also varies greatly in plants suffering exactly similar syptoms.
for this reason i have not yet added citrus juices or viniger or anything
5)some plants are droopy but healthy seems due to over watering and
unrealated but then again lower leaves falling off. so confused, how could
they be n deficient if i burned them with food?
6) plants were sloppy style over fed with shults 10 20 10 so how can they be
defficient? did the incorrectly high P level screw them up? why only certain
plants also is it possible they have already outgrown there light?
SUMARRY
It seems ive had 3 different problems. The first massive death (inside) was
very resembling of fungus and not anything these plants that are
withering/curling now. the droopy plants with dying bottom oval leaves
probably is just some deficiency you guys can point out. but i have no
diagnoses for the death bound plants.
Since newspaper pot transplant drainage increase infestation greatly
decreased and the only treatment i have givin to these 3 plants is a quick
luke warm flush. I know they can be saved the stems are still nice and
healthy/ strong. also afected plants were near eachother but seems in
concusive because of seperate containers and dont even have the same ph in their soil. HELP HURRY !plants only have a few more days dont want to bury any more good soldiers also does it sound like i need to adjust ph (bright green 7) or use insecticide? how much water do u flush small plants in this situation with i probably did 1/2 cup est from the sink in each. is my hippy newspaper pots to suseptable to mold?move outside early or nat sulight during day
This is somewhat complicated because the seeds are a high quality outdorr
sativa obtained from an aclaimated grower from the area. this farmer
recomended starting inside/ force to flower/ transplant to rush the crop
which is now aprx. 3 weeks old.
prologue:
due to limited space half of aprx 50 seeds went from germ in straight water
to the ground. first time for this messed it up. never tested soil first but
it seemed hard and dry was iinfested with red ants. only one came up as a
side question are red ants an indication of infertlle soil? potting mix was
put on the spot but very lightly and most definately insuffeciently. what
happened here, just because i want to use location again cuz its packed with
overgrown crap thorns and bees. however this thread is in regards to the
other half of the seeds grown indoors.
problem: leaves first curled down/inwards ramshorn got bright green/yellowish
and then sagged. within 3 hrs they have withered to the condition shown in
the picture ( 2 plants progressed and one with the problem just starting)
catastrophes that may or may not be the cause:
1) some plants were started under another light that was too hot and had to
be transplanted. not likely that they are any of these cuz most of them
died...
2) Early in grow large percentage of plants were lost to quick killing
fungus? or maybe stem snapping from rough training? the reason i think this
is different is because these shrivled and died within one day (during first
week) and showed no crazy leaf curling/ slumping.
3) since oringinal medium had no drainage whatsover and spidermight/fly
infestation all plants were transplanted into seperate sun treated soil mix
contained in newspaper homemade planting pots shown in the picture of my
healthy plants. Could this thing be simple transplant shock and have no
relationship to nutrient? i used rooting powder with fungicide for transplant
and in shaking off excess some plants were contaminated and showed small
burns but again are not the same plants that are dying now
4) due to poor mixing i undoubtably have hot spots and ph range is large -
6-7 but also varies greatly in plants suffering exactly similar syptoms.
for this reason i have not yet added citrus juices or viniger or anything
5)some plants are droopy but healthy seems due to over watering and
unrealated but then again lower leaves falling off. so confused, how could
they be n deficient if i burned them with food?
6) plants were sloppy style over fed with shults 10 20 10 so how can they be
defficient? did the incorrectly high P level screw them up? why only certain
plants also is it possible they have already outgrown there light?
SUMARRY
It seems ive had 3 different problems. The first massive death (inside) was
very resembling of fungus and not anything these plants that are
withering/curling now. the droopy plants with dying bottom oval leaves
probably is just some deficiency you guys can point out. but i have no
diagnoses for the death bound plants.
Since newspaper pot transplant drainage increase infestation greatly
decreased and the only treatment i have givin to these 3 plants is a quick
luke warm flush. I know they can be saved the stems are still nice and
healthy/ strong. also afected plants were near eachother but seems in
concusive because of seperate containers and dont even have the same ph in their soil. HELP HURRY !plants only have a few more days dont want to bury any more good soldiers also does it sound like i need to adjust ph (bright green 7) or use insecticide? how much water do u flush small plants in this situation with i probably did 1/2 cup est from the sink in each. is my hippy newspaper pots to suseptable to mold?move outside early or nat sulight during day
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But from the looks of it your 1st and probably foremost problem looks to be overwatering.The leaves in picture one show it alot "withering and turning brown at edges".When the plants are small they only need small amounts of water too much and you suffocate them because there is no oxygen getting to the roots"they have to be able to breath, so soft, loamy, and well aerated soil is best. Soil amended with nutes already will work just as long as it has a higer nitrogen then phospherus ration for veg.The kind you have probably isnt suitable because you want higher nitrogen levels then phos during veg for good growth then in flower, lower the nitrogen levels and increase phos slightly to help with flower. "Another good measure is to start in small pots and work your way up in sizes as the plant out grows it's pot and this will help build up a strong root mass.When they are small you want to keep the soil moist but not to wet watering with a spray bottle is good idea but just keep the soil damp but not soaking wet.so the roots will stretch out looking for water and grow strong and healthy. If possible get a cheap 5-8$ ph tester and see what your water is and aim for a 6.8 ph on the water that will also help alot.Now for lighting if your using CFL's then get them about 3-4 inches from the top and if possible add them to the sides also. Hps is best all around light because it flowers really well and if used right can veg decently also. You will need a fan blowing on them and you will need fresh air vented in from a room with open window or route a duct to the window however you like but it needs to breath fresh air or it will get stagnant air all the time and effect them.I cant say for shure if your plants will live but i would ease of watering them and let the soil dry out it looks really wet that may save them may not but if you keep watering constantly they will die best of luck man