help with my shitty plants

PotMonster · Dec 6, 2008

Im growing in MG potting soild from home depot. PH is around 7. I was going to flower tomorrow but my plants are looking bad. the color looks lright but the leaves are all sagging and feel dryed out.

I watered monday for the first time and a week and then I watered today. Usually about a half gallon per gallon pot until the water seeps through the bottom.

socalkushman · Dec 6, 2008

are you using fertalizer? looks like the soils to hot.. my plant are also in Miracle grow potting soil...

panta · Dec 6, 2008

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socalkushman · Dec 6, 2008

i never stopped to think about stickin chicken shit in the bottom...benefits me in the long run... never any need to feed it :mrgreen:

unlimited supply of chicken shit

Jonus · Dec 6, 2008

The plants are fine, its the soil thats shitty, well, temperamental at the very least. Are you able to source some better soil. Try asking around or looking around for a good premium 'soiless potting mix'. Preferably a peat based organic mix versus the bark based mixes.

Bonus content:
- lime and a wetting agent
- perlite and vermiculite

If you can find something like that, then repot it. That way you can control all the elements like pH, nutrients, micro elements, parts per million/EC yourself.

If youre having those sorts of problems with premix prefertilized soil during the grow phase, things are not looking up for flowering.

Perhaps do a search around and drop a list in here of the various soiless mixes in your area and others can give you some tips on which is the best one.

SilverH4ze · Dec 6, 2008

Straight up, dont use MG. Or you get shit like that. Heres an entire thing dedicated to shitty MG grown plants.

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PotMonster · Dec 6, 2008

theres a fox farm store near me.

Should I get Ocean Forest potting soil or foxfarm orginal planting mix or anything else??

Should I get big bloom tiger bloom or grow big?

Id like to get everything at once while im there, they seem to have so many choices.

Jonus · Dec 6, 2008

I dont really know much about the mediums being sold in the US, perhaps if you can list whats in them might be the way. But you would be better to stay away from the mediums that already have nutrients in them. Especially now you are wanting to switch to flowering. Any repotting now with pre nutrient soil means you will have another 4 weeks of whatever the nutes are in that soil.

SilverH4ze · Dec 6, 2008

PotMonster said:
theres a fox farm store near me.

Should I get Ocean Forest potting soil or foxfarm orginal planting mix or anything else??

Should I get big bloom tiger bloom or grow big?

Id like to get everything at once while im there, they seem to have so many choices.

Shit dude if theres a FF store nearby, then get FF ocean forest soil. Add a little perlite an get the foxfarm 3 pack of nutrients and your set.

Bubba Kushman · Dec 6, 2008

Fox Farms Ocean forest is good shit! It has a lot of good stuff in it so you should not have to fertilize for a while. I would flush with florakleen or clerex then transplant into the new stuff. After they look better you can flower!

Bubba Kushman · Dec 6, 2008

I forgot about the 3 pack! Thats good shit too and its ph buffered so you dont have to deal with ph problems!

Jonus · Dec 6, 2008

According to the Fox Farm website:

Fox Farms Ocean forest
The ultimate potting soileverything your plants need, in one bag. Ocean Forest® is a powerhouse blend of premium earthworm castings, bat guano, and Pacific Northwest sea-going fish and crab meal. Composted forest humus, sandy loam, and sphagnum peat moss give Ocean Forest® its light, aerated texture. Start with Ocean Forest® and watch your plants come alive!

Yup so its a soiless mix and is peat based rather than bark based which is good. As SilverH4ze said, add some perlite, I'd also suggest vermiculite, neem cake oil, and a wetting agent if you can. At the very least the perlite.

PotMonster · Dec 6, 2008

nice, thanks. does foxfarm make perlite? Ill mix 75% soil and 25% perlite. Ill try to get vermiculite too.

Jonus · Dec 6, 2008

Dunno. Is Fox Farm like the only garden center in your area? most hydro stores sell the full gamett

SilverH4ze · Dec 6, 2008

PotMonster said:
nice, thanks. does foxfarm make perlite? Ill mix 75% soil and 25% perlite. Ill try to get vermiculite too.

Any perlite will do. I dont think foxfarm makes it, if so, it will just cost more for the 'FOX FARM' brand name. So stick with regular perlite from ace's,lowes, or wallmart.

PotMonster · Dec 7, 2008

the perlilte from home depot is nutrient release i believe. Is this ok to use??

PotMonster · Dec 7, 2008

Jonus said:
According to the Fox Farm website:

Yup so its a soiless mix and is peat based rather than bark based which is good. As SilverH4ze said, add some perlite, I'd also suggest vermiculite, neem cake oil, and a wetting agent if you can. At the very least the perlite.

Jonus

I just picked up this:
http://www.coastofmaine.com/soils.shtml#barharbor

"Bar Harbor Blend is made with lobster and aspen bark compost, long staple horticultural grade sphagnum peat moss and perlite. Like all compost-based soils, this too requires less watering"

it has peat moss very dar and old aspen bark, so is this ok?

im also goig to add a bag of the Home depot perlite, it will probably only make up les than 10% of the mix whihc is good because it has the fertilizer release in it.

420swed · Dec 7, 2008

it looks like your not watering enough.........

Jonus · Dec 7, 2008

Does the potting mix contain fertilizer, and what percentage of the mix looks like it is bark.

PotMonster · Dec 7, 2008

it contains no fertlilizer, completely organic "approved for organic growers" it is supossedly as good as fox farm and its on some hydro sites.

i can't see any bark, it looks like black rich soil. it says on the bag "made with peat, very old dark bark and perlite enriched with compost abd seaweed.

heres a desrciption off another site..

"A traditional potting soil made with lobster compost, composted chicken manure, bark, kelp, peat moss & perlite. Lobster compost has many unique features including Chitin which is a natural source of Ca to help strengthen cells walls & protect against disease. Composted chicken manure is added to give your plants a natural nitrogen boost & North Atlantic Sea Kelp is added to provide essential minerals & trace elements. Peat moss & perlite are added for aeration & drainage.Available in 16 quart, 1 cubic foot and 2 cubic foot bags."

I figured id water about 2x a week.

ps reps for you!!

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