Hiatus, or no hiatus?

desert dude

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One of the great puzzles of climate science is the fact that global average temperature have been largely flat for the past 15 or more years. This hiatus in the rate of warming due to increasing greenhouse concentrations in the atmosphere was unpredicted by the computer climate models. Lots of scientific effort has gone into trying to explain (explain away?) the hiatus. The result has been numerous papers that variously blame ocean currents in the Pacific, the North Atlantic, or both; changes in water vapor in the stratosphere; and the lack of sunspot activity.


http://reason.com/blog/2015/06/05/no-global-warming-hiatus-after-all


Some experts hailed the Science article for using better quality data than the figures used to create the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's 2013 report, which found some evidence of a pause in global warming in recent years.


But others, like Piers Forster, professor of climate change at the University of Leeds, pointed out that the IPCC report relies on numerous sets of data, not just NOAA's.


"Even with the corrections in this study, the observed warming has not been as large as predicted by models. Other global datasets, even when corrected for missing Arctic data, still show a decreased trend since 1998," he said.


"I still don't think this study will be the last word on this complex subject."

 
I don't know what to think about global warming and climate change. I believe in science, and there are so many smart scientists who believe. And some smart scientists who don't.

As in many cases, this is an example of "which scientific expert do you believe?". There seem to be a lot more believers than dissenters. But that doesn't prove anything.

I don't know what to think. I have a hard time thinking I'm even qualified to form my own opinion on this one. Climate processes are so difficult to model and understand.
 
I don't know what to think about global warming and climate change. I believe in science, and there are so many smart scientists who believe. And some smart scientists who don't.

As in many cases, this is an example of "which scientific expert do you believe?". There seem to be a lot more believers than dissenters. But that doesn't prove anything.

I don't know what to think. I have a hard time thinking I'm eveualified to form my own opinion on this one. Climate processes are so difficult to model and understand.

Yeah, I agree.

There is little disagreement that global warming has stalled for about 17 years, though, except on RIU where eminent scientists such as PaddyWanker insist 'there is no hiatus, damn it!". The OP is a scientific study that fiddles with the dataset to make corrections to the data to prove that the warming hiatus was not real.

Some are skeptical. Making your data fit your preferred conclusion seems a bit biased to me.
 
Yeah, I agree.

There is little disagreement that global warming has stalled for about 17 years, though, except on RIU where eminent scientists such as PaddyWanker insist 'there is no hiatus, damn it!". The OP is a scientific study that fiddles with the dataset to make corrections to the data to prove that the warming hiatus was not real.

Some are skeptical. Making your data fit your preferred conclusion seems a bit biased to me.

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I don't know what to think about global warming and climate change. I believe in science, and there are so many smart scientists who believe. And some smart scientists who don't.

As in many cases, this is an example of "which scientific expert do you believe?". There seem to be a lot more believers than dissenters. But that doesn't prove anything.

I don't know what to think. I have a hard time thinking I'm even qualified to form my own opinion on this one. Climate processes are so difficult to model and understand.

i have to think based upon man in general inhabiting the earth, we've done it some damage.

but, look at who the scientist gets funding from. often times that's an indicator of their position.
 
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