how many cfl's should i use for only six plants and what size?

danky budz

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Hey can someone tell me exactly how many cfl's i should use to get an awesome crop from only six plants? Which bulbs should I use. I can get some bulbs at lowes at 23 watts and around 2600 lumens each. How many should I get? I know I should have cool white for veg and warm for flowering, I just wana know how many I need for a 3x4x5 closet for only six plants.?. Any info I'd really appreciate it!!:joint:
 

stelthy

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about 80, seriously. look into hps
I agree, 80 - 100 shitty little CFL bulbs or 3 x 150w ENVIROGROW CFL's veg with 2 blue spec and 1 red then when flowering swap to 2 red spec and 1 blue, failing that I'd say get yourself a 400w hps you'll be saving money from using less watts, get more lumens growing better plants and creating huge hard stinky heavy buds, ENVIROLIGHTS are good for 2 - 3 Plants typically, household tiny cfl's are good for 1 - 2 plants max, so in my opinion you'd be much better off with with a 400w hps you could scrape by with a 250w hps but only if you lolly popped and weaved your ladies through a mesh...SOG/SCROG I think its called, I am only growing 2 plants and am using a 600w hps ....Quality is everything and with a 600 so is quantity :) don't scrimp by invest a little and reap big rewards :) - STELTHY
 

KBRoaster

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Don't listen to those fools, they are ignorant. Fuck hps!!!

First of all, you'll need daylight bulbs (6500k) for vegging. Then switch to soft white (2700k) bulbs for flowering. During veg, for six plants, you'll need about 6-8 26w CFLS, or whatever higher wattage you can find. I would only keep them in veg for about three to four weeks, otherwise they'll grow to big.

When you start to flower, you'll prolly just to replace the bulbs you have at first, but you'll need to scale as the plants blossom.

My grow has six plant and they look sweet...CFL for life!

Also, keep in mind the setup you have. If you can optimize the bulb placement and the closet's lighting, then you can take advantage of having less.

Feel free to message me if you need any help.
 

Bonzi Lighthouse

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Don't listen to those fools, they are ignorant. Fuck hps!!!
I'm not sure I would listen to anybody that makes a blanket statement like this. Fucking HPS would burn your Penix.

If this is your first grow I would consider doing less plants. The issue with CFL as I see it is light penetration which means hanging supplementals on the side.

What are yor plans for heat and ventilation?
 

stelthy

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Don't listen to those fools, they are ignorant. Fuck hps!!!

First of all, you'll need daylight bulbs (6500k) for vegging. Then switch to soft white (2700k) bulbs for flowering. During veg, for six plants, you'll need about 6-8 26w CFLS, or whatever higher wattage you can find. I would only keep them in veg for about three to four weeks, otherwise they'll grow to big.

When you start to flower, you'll prolly just to replace the bulbs you have at first, but you'll need to scale as the plants blossom.

My grow has six plant and they look sweet...CFL for life!

Also, keep in mind the setup you have. If you can optimize the bulb placement and the closet's lighting, then you can take advantage of having less.

Feel free to message me if you need any help.
No fuck you KBRoaster! CFL's will work but at that lower wattage bulb..you'll need a lot to get good coverage and light penetration...otherwise expect lots of leaf, not alot of bud and the bud you do get will be airy, lite and low grade, In my last grow I only used ENVIROLIGHTs and LED ufo's I grew 2 plants and got 7.5 OZ from it I'll post a link in a min.. however I worked out that I could run a 250 or 400 or even a 600w HPS setup and still draw less power from the mains ...ok well 50w's extra with the 600, but far less with the 250 and 400... and the plants will grow HUGE compared to CFL, Good reflectivity also helps flat matt white paint is cheap and works well but I recommend MYLAR as its super reflective :) Any how its up to you but I would use no less than a couple of 125w ENVIROLIGHT'S if you want anything half decent I'll add both my old and new thread links for you to check out... my old one is the CFL and LED grow...and the new one I am still in the process of building the cab, but at least you can see what is possible :) - STELTHY PS/ Feel free to message me if you need any help, I have helped a fair few people so far and enjoy all aspects of growing including helping people, PPS is yours a persy grow or do you wanna make some money? either way I can help you! - STELTHY
 

mr parky

Member
i have a closet grow of 4 plants, i use a 250w red spec cfl for flowering and having no probs, i wouldn't put any more than 4 under though. ( if it's any help)
 

KBRoaster

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No fuck you KBRoaster! CFL's will work but at that lower wattage bulb..you'll need a lot to get good coverage and light penetration...otherwise expect lots of leaf, not alot of bud and the bud you do get will be airy, lite and low grade, In my last grow I only used ENVIROLIGHTs and LED ufo's I grew 2 plants and got 7.5 OZ from it I'll post a link in a min.. however I worked out that I could run a 250 or 400 or even a 600w HPS setup and still draw less power from the mains ...ok well 50w's extra with the 600, but far less with the 250 and 400... and the plants will grow HUGE compared to CFL, Good reflectivity also helps flat matt white paint is cheap and works well but I recommend MYLAR as its super reflective :) Any how its up to you but I would use no less than a couple of 125w ENVIROLIGHT'S if you want anything half decent I'll add both my old and new thread links for you to check out... my old one is the CFL and LED grow...and the new one I am still in the process of building the cab, but at least you can see what is possible :) - STELTHY PS/ Feel free to message me if you need any help, I have helped a fair few people so far and enjoy all aspects of growing including helping people, PPS is yours a persy grow or do you wanna make some money? either way I can help you! - STELTHY
Did someone say bitch? Otherwise, stfu...plus your dumbass doesn't even know how to spell: it's "stealthy" not "stelthy."

Anyway...the OP asked how many CFL's he needed, not should he get CFL's or HPS/MH. You guys and your "get an HPS bulb, blah, blah, blah" are just polluting the thread.

Not to mention, but in case you pooputts didn't know this, being a CFL grower is a way of life, not a choice. So please, go take your HPS light bulbs and shove up homeboy "Stelthy's" ass. I'm sure there's plenty of room next to the gerbils.
 

RikoSuave55

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well i dont know about being a way of life but i grow with cfls and ive had 3 successful grows with just as much yield as ive done with dirt before. I am considering adding HPS to my flower room but well see. The cheif reason i switched was that my Metal Halide lamps got soooo hot. My new place is very old and the basement is a tinderbox! I was scared to burn down the place.!

I use as many lumens as i can afford. Stealthhydro.com has a good selection of cfls on their site and i have bought there larger bulbs. I would suggest 25-30,000 lumens for 6 plants. Personally i would usae 3-4 large 5k lumen lights on the canopy and then place a bunch of smalls around the plants. I also move them around every few days.

Lowes has an awesome 3500 lumen bulb for 16 bux they also carry cheap vanity fixtures allowing you to plug in multiples. I use chain hanging down and i put my large lights on aluminum deflectors with clamps and just clamp to the chains.

Its not a matter of whats better, but what suits you and what you can afford. I add lights to my grows whenever i see them for sale, More is better!
 

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stelthy

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Did someone say bitch? Otherwise, stfu...plus your dumbass doesn't even know how to spell: it's "stealthy" not "stelthy."

Anyway...the OP asked how many CFL's he needed, not should he get CFL's or HPS/MH. You guys and your "get an HPS bulb, blah, blah, blah" are just polluting the thread.

Not to mention, but in case you pooputts didn't know this, being a CFL grower is a way of life, not a choice. So please, go take your HPS light bulbs and shove up homeboy "Stelthy's" ass. I'm sure there's plenty of room next to the gerbils.
Erm.... My screen name is STELTHY, my grow is in a 'stealth-cupboard' 'tard! If you read my previous post I agreed with darkdestruction420 who stated a lot of low watt CFLs would be necessary to give 6 plants the light penetration they need in order to bud well! I stated I've used ENVIROGROW CFL's in my previous op. and did well however it was only 2 plants and I used a 250w CFL and 2X 90w LED UFO's.....soooo....in order to flower 6 plants and have a half decent harvest more lumens and more wattage is needed, wether you choose CFL or MH/HPS lighting is imeterial but more lumens/PAR is needed or your yield will be pants!!! and being a FAG is a way of life, which is exactly how you sound!!! if you choose CFL, LED, MH, HPS or THE SUN is personal choice! so Where as I am being helpfull your just being a CUNT! and you come across ignorant and unintelligent and VERY VERY GAY KBROASTER ...VERY GAY grow up and get a clue! PS DANKYBUDZ its entirely up to you but I'd say do some research on here 1st to see whats possible, Pictures are a very good way to determin the lighting source you'll need and the ammount of bulbs in which ever setup you choose, the more experienced growers in here should give you the best advice - sorry for the slaggin' match with KBROASTER on your thread I am done now! hope my text has been informative - "STELTHY"
 

LadyKimi

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I grow with CFLs, I can not tell U what my yield will be as this is my very first grow. I do not grow CFL by choice, I have not actually made a choice. I had a limited budget to start with and so far so good... I have included a link to my 7 girls. It says "tons" of CFLs all together it is 16 ( should have been 6500k for vegging but I didnt know that then and used 2700k) now being flowered 1/2 23w 2700k bright white and 1/2 23w 2700k warm white (bought at walmart for .92)
I may choose another way to grow, I may not but I am so far doin pretty good with the CFLs

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/336224-my-girls-whatcha-think-first.html

~Lady
 

KBRoaster

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Erm.... My screen name is STELTHY, my grow is in a 'stealth-cupboard' 'tard! If you read my previous post I agreed with darkdestruction420 who stated a lot of low watt CFLs would be necessary to give 6 plants the light penetration they need in order to bud well! I stated I've used ENVIROGROW CFL's in my previous op. and did well however it was only 2 plants and I used a 250w CFL and 2X 90w LED UFO's.....soooo....in order to flower 6 plants and have a half decent harvest more lumens and more wattage is needed, wether you choose CFL or MH/HPS lighting is imeterial but more lumens/PAR is needed or your yield will be pants!!! and being a FAG is a way of life, which is exactly how you sound!!! if you choose CFL, LED, MH, HPS or THE SUN is personal choice! so Where as I am being helpfull your just being a CUNT! and you come across ignorant and unintelligent and VERY VERY GAY KBROASTER ...VERY GAY grow up and get a clue! PS DANKYBUDZ its entirely up to you but I'd say do some research on here 1st to see whats possible, Pictures are a very good way to determin the lighting source you'll need and the ammount of bulbs in which ever setup you choose, the more experienced growers in here should give you the best advice - sorry for the slaggin' match with KBROASTER on your thread I am done now! hope my text has been informative - "STELTHY"
I know what your screen name is because we know each other. Remember me? I was the guy that gave you a hundred bill last night when I was going through the drive-thru at the McDonald's you work at??? You told me you only had change for a fiddy...sheeit. Then I dropped your mom at the corner I found her and gave her a happy meal.

You ain't slaggin no one cuz you ain't got no game...you have to say something funny first. Still waiting...

Anyway pooputt, I have experience growing 6 plants with CFLs because I'm doing it right now. You, you're just talking...I don't care who you agree with, you're still a fool. You ain't got no education, you ain't got no game and right now, you ain't got a clue. Just turn the computer off and twiddle your thumbs since that's all you seem qualified for...sheeit!

Seriously...let the CFLers handle this...
 

stelthy

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I know what your screen name is because we know each other. Remember me? I was the guy that gave you a hundred bill last night when I was going through the drive-thru at the McDonald's you work at??? You told me you only had change for a fiddy...sheeit. Then I dropped your mom at the corner I found her and gave her a happy meal.

You ain't slaggin no one cuz you ain't got no game...you have to say something funny first. Still waiting...

Anyway pooputt, I have experience growing 6 plants with CFLs because I'm doing it right now. You, you're just talking...I don't care who you agree with, you're still a fool. You ain't got no education, you ain't got no game and right now, you ain't got a clue. Just turn the computer off and twiddle your thumbs since that's all you seem qualified for...sheeit!

Seriously...let the CFLers handle this...
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ARRRRRR HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA We know each other cos we both applied for the same job, they took me on straight away n promoted me to managing director I felt bad for you when they kicked your ass to the curb cos you were under qualified for even putting a single cheese burger together! You think your a 'G' the only 'G' your associated with is your mum's 'GUNT!' I bet when your parents mistakingly made you, your Dad had to roll your Mums 'GUNT' in flour 1st just to find the fuckin wet spot, and Maccy D's even kicked his batty ass to the curb cos he thought by fucking a cow in the ass (your mum) qualified for a Mc Shake. The next time I twiddle anything it will be your neck - round n round till it snaps off! not your mums hermaphrodite genitals that your Dads so used to playing with! For 99% of the CFL growers I have upmost respect but when you say its a way of life, I bet you have the abbrieviated T-shirt and the letters C F L in your circumstance stand for 'COCK', 'FUCKING', 'LOSER'!!! you even had to save up your income support tokens to buy it, your Mum cried cos she had to lots of bad news in 1 day, A) she found out your a COCK FUCKING LOSER!! And B) that since you stole her share of income support tokens just so you could afford your G-A-Y 4 life T-shirt her fat ass now has to go without food for the next 3 months!!! If my mum was a Ho... which she's not! she would resemble Lanny Barbie and Cytherea, and bring home more money for food and delicacies and bud than your under average street whore disease infected bint! Even Jubba the hut would get more action than your mum and at least He'd get paid your 2-bit whore Mum would have to pay and hand over your whole dumb ass'd families food stamps just do get a limp dicked screw out of Pee Wee Herman! And yeah my mum was laughing like me at you! cos your mums eye lids were so fat that she mistook my mum for a whore and when you offered her a lift she laughed so fuckin' hard at you when you both pulled up on a mobility scooter with deflated wheels! You wanna talk shit? I 'll force feed you shit all day long, I'll force feed you so much shit that even your Mum your Sister, Brother and Dad will have to think twice before they 'kiss you goodnight' That'll be the 3rd disapointment for your mum in one day! You really are a CUNT! and now youve let down the rest of your familly too your a joke and THAT's funny you Bitch ass'd Mother Fucker you want 'GAME' I'll put you in the ground next time you slip up, and I know for sure you won't grow up cos you'll be buried 6ft deep, no lights no music just the toy from a 'Happy Meal' to remember your name Complete Fucking Loser or was it Cock Fucking Loser either way shut the fuck up! Even my dicks harder than you are .... the only thing you can handle is you Mums dick, I bet all hell breaks loose when your Dad finds her wetspot or do you just share her? Yeah your Dad sucks her Balls and you take her dick..The only thing your used to!
 

KBRoaster

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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ARRRRRR HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA We know each other cos we both applied for the same job, they took me on straight away n promoted me to managing director I felt bad for you when they kicked your ass to the curb cos you were under qualified for even putting a single cheese burger together! You think your a 'G' the only 'G' your associated with is your mum's 'GUNT!' I bet when your parents mistakingly made you, your Dad had to roll your Mums 'GUNT' in flour 1st just to find the fuckin wet spot, and Maccy D's even kicked his batty ass to the curb cos he thought by fucking a cow in the ass (your mum) qualified for a Mc Shake. The next time I twiddle anything it will be your neck - round n round till it snaps off! not your mums hermaphrodite genitals that your Dads so used to playing with! For 99% of the CFL growers I have upmost respect but when you say its a way of life, I bet you have the abbrieviated T-shirt and the letters C F L in your circumstance stand for 'COCK', 'FUCKING', 'LOSER'!!! you even had to save up your income support tokens to buy it, your Mum cried cos she had to lots of bad news in 1 day, A) she found out your a COCK FUCKING LOSER!! And B) that since you stole her share of income support tokens just so you could afford your G-A-Y 4 life T-shirt her fat ass now has to go without food for the next 3 months!!! If my mum was a Ho... which she's not! she would resemble Lanny Barbie and Cytherea, and bring home more money for food and delicacies and bud than your under average street whore disease infected bint! Even Jubba the hut would get more action than your mum and at least He'd get paid your 2-bit whore Mum would have to pay and hand over your whole dumb ass'd families food stamps just do get a limp dicked screw out of Pee Wee Herman! And yeah my mum was laughing like me at you! cos your mums eye lids were so fat that she mistook my mum for a whore and when you offered her a lift she laughed so fuckin' hard at you when you both pulled up on a mobility scooter with deflated wheels! You wanna talk shit? I 'll force feed you shit all day long, I'll force feed you so much shit that even your Mum your Sister, Brother and Dad will have to think twice before they 'kiss you goodnight' That'll be the 3rd disapointment for your mum in one day! You really are a CUNT! and now youve let down the rest of your familly too your a joke and THAT's funny you Bitch ass'd Mother Fucker you want 'GAME' I'll put you in the ground next time you slip up, and I know for sure you won't grow up cos you'll be buried 6ft deep, no lights no music just the toy from a 'Happy Meal' to remember your name Complete Fucking Loser or was it Cock Fucking Loser either way shut the fuck up! Even my dicks harder than you are .... the only thing you can handle is you Mums dick, I bet all hell breaks loose when your Dad finds her wetspot or do you just share her? Yeah your Dad sucks her Balls and you take her dick..The only thing your used to!
Seriously, who taught you to spell? Or how to rag on someone for the matter? I sure hope you grow bud better than you tell jokes. When you can cut down at a higher level--or even say something funny--, let me know...otherwise, you should go back to being the fluffer you are.

Until then, here's a little article that might help you figure out why you're such a pooputt:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
 

KBRoaster

Active Member
Stelthy(sic), here's the definition of funny, thought you might need it:

Definitions of funny:

  • amusing: arousing or provoking laughter; "an amusing film with a steady stream of pranks and pratfalls"; "an amusing fellow"; "a comic hat"; "a ...
  • curious: beyond or deviating from the usual or expected; "a curious hybrid accent"; "her speech has a funny twang"; "they have some funny ideas about war"; "had an odd name"; "the peculiar aromatic odor of cloves"; "something definitely queer about this town"; "what a rum fellow"; "singular ...
  • fishy: not as expected; "there was something fishy about the accident"; "up to some funny business"; "some definitely queer goings-on"; "a shady deal"; "her motives were suspect"; "suspicious behavior"
  • funny story: an account of an amusing incident (usually with a punch line); "she told a funny story"; "she made a funny"
  • experiencing odd bodily sensations; "told the doctor about the funny sensations in her chest"
  • The opposite of Stelthy(sic)

Anyway...Dank, the reason I'm being harsh on this pooputt is because these HPS snobs bombard these threads about, "just get an HPS..." Well, no...I don't want an HPS, I want to do CFL and their pushy about it. It's as if they don't recognize that CFLs are an effective way to grow weed. Is it the best? No, but if it's your personal choice and the cards your dealt with, then back off the HPS crap. CFLs do the job and then some. Why not let us explore on our own and then make a decision based off experience and not some poster's idea of what they think is best for us. If it's truly a community, then we shouldn't shame those who are not deemed equal because you feel our techniques are of a lower quality. That's straight up lightism.

So what if the buds get bigger or tighter, the quality of the high is just the same, imo. I chose CFL because I thought I would learn more about the nuances of the plant and thus make me a better grower. I've experienced a grow with HPS/MH and to me, the connection is deeper with CFLs because you're having to calibrate on an almost daily basis to nurture your plant.

Point is, I like to write and here myself talk.

As you were.
 

stelthy

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OMG! - PS quote :- (Point is, I like to write and here myself talk.) COS NO ONE ELSE DOES!!! I cant be bothered with you any more, Danky I honestly hope your grow goes well whatever you decide to do. Peace - STELTHY
 
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