If China come in on Putin's war on Putin's side it IS WWIII

Friendly_Grower · Mar 14, 2022

Washington, DC (CNN)Russia has asked China for military support, including drones, as well as economic assistance for its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, according to conversations CNN had with two US officials.
The requests came after the invasion, one of the officials said. That official declined to detail the Chinese reaction but indicated that the Chinese had responded. Both the Chinese and Russian governments publicly denied that the request happened.

CNN Politics article

I think the proper term here is Putin's got a death wish.
What is it? Does he have a terminal illness? Alzheimer?
Does he see Russia fading to an Economic nothing no matter what?

Both Russia and China say they have not asked for aid nor offered aid but just when have these two EVER told the truth?

This pisse me off. It's going to be a Nuclear Snow waste land in USA, China and Russia and for what?

We will ruin each countries ability to grow crops.

cannabineer · Mar 14, 2022

Friendly_Grower said:
CNN Politics article

I think the proper term here is Putin's got a death wish.
What is it? Does he have a terminal illness? Alzheimer?
Does he see Russia fading to an Economic nothing no matter what?

Both Russia and China say they have not asked for aid nor offered aid but just when have these two EVER told the truth?

This pisse me off. It's going to be a Nuclear Snow waste land in USA, China and Russia and for what?

We will ruin each countries ability to grow outdoor crops.

That would make indoor farmers a sudden commodity. Now I’m ambivalent, dammit.

nuskool89 · Mar 14, 2022

There will not be nuclear war. Our SSBN fleet alone is enough of a deterrent.

cyber and economic warfare is the real threat to worry about

Friendly_Grower · Mar 14, 2022

cannabineer said:
That would make indoor farmers a sudden commodity. Now I’m ambivalent, dammit.

Thanks for the laugh.

Friendly_Grower · Mar 14, 2022

nuskool89 said:
There will not be nuclear war. Our SSBN fleet alone is enough of a deterrent.

cyber and economic warfare is the real threat to worry about

Welp, lets see if China will rescue Putin who is obviously a economically wounded animal at this point.

cannabineer · Mar 14, 2022

nuskool89 said:
There will not be nuclear war. Our SSBN fleet alone is enough of a deterrent.

cyber and economic warfare is the real threat to worry about

I do not share your confidence. History is full of situations that obtained “right up until they didn’t.”

cawolves · Mar 14, 2022

Thanks captain obvious

Friendly_Grower · Mar 14, 2022

USA and China are talking!
Watch this space!

cannabineer · Mar 14, 2022

xtsho · Mar 14, 2022

China's not going to do anything. They're just going to try and play both sides. They need the west more than they need Russia. They're not going to risk losing out on the trade that's made allowed them to grow by doing anything other than appearing sympathetic to Russia. China is not going to get involved in any military effort to assist Russia.

One of the reasons I stopped watching the cable news shows is because they're just full of idiots that just like to speculate and soon that speculation becomes fact and causes people to repeat what was initially just some opinion from some political hack trying to make a name for themselves.

mooray · Mar 14, 2022

Cool thread title with excellent English, for a Russian stooge.

nuskool89 · Mar 14, 2022

cannabineer said:
I do not share your confidence. History is full of situations that obtained “right up until they didn’t.”

A nuclear detonation is not out of the question, especially carried out by some organization/group funded by particular countries or dark money…..but a nation like China or Russia will not as it assures mutual destruction. That’s why North Korea was never the threat headlines wanted it to be a few years ago.

cannabineer · Mar 14, 2022

nuskool89 said:
A nuclear detonation is not out of the question, especially carried out by some organization/group funded by particular countries or dark money…..but a nation like China or Russia will not as it assures mutual destruction. That’s why North Korea was never the threat headlines wanted it to be a few years ago.

A counterargument is provided by a recent national leader who wanted to thermonuke some weather. Having them introduces an itch in certain types of empowered sociopath.

nuskool89 · Mar 14, 2022

cannabineer said:
A counterargument is provided by a recent national leader who wanted to thermonuke some weather. Having them introduces an itch in certain types of empowered sociopath.

the fact one Axios article with unnamed sources from 2019 is all it takes for you to believe that is the problem. It’s been regurgitated enough to become “fact” and a perfect example of how damaging fake news is to the republic.

edit: just as much damage as people believing stuff like Obama is Kenyan etc etc. plenty of things to discuss/debate/disagree on without adding silly stuff like this to the mix

Friendly_Grower · Mar 14, 2022

nuskool89 said:
A nuclear detonation is not out of the question, especially carried out by some organization/group funded by particular countries or dark money…..but a nation like China or Russia will not as it assures mutual destruction. That’s why North Korea was never the threat headlines wanted it to be a few years ago.

A large non-nuclear bomb detonated at Chernobyl would make a lovely dirty bomb.
Chernobyl was a priority target for Putin.

Friendly_Grower · Mar 14, 2022

xtsho said:
China's not going to do anything. They're just going to try and play both sides. They need the west more than they need Russia. They're not going to risk losing out on the trade that's made allowed them to grow by doing anything other than appearing sympathetic to Russia. China is not going to get involved in any military effort to assist Russia.

One of the reasons I stopped watching the cable news shows is because they're just full of idiots that just like to speculate and soon that speculation becomes fact and causes people to repeat what was initially just some opinion from some political hack trying to make a name for themselves.

You mean posting from people like all of us?
Guilty as charged.

cannabineer · Mar 14, 2022

nuskool89 said:
the fact one Axios article with unnamed sources from 2019 is all it takes for you to believe that is the problem. It’s been regurgitated enough to become “fact” and a prefect example of how damaging fake news is to the republic.

edit: just as much damage as people believing stuff like Obama is Kenyan etc etc. plenty of things to discuss/debate/disagree on without adding silly stuff like this to the mix

That man calling it fake news legitimizes it.

nuskool89 · Mar 14, 2022

cannabineer said:
That man calling it fake news legitimizes it.

you’d think if it were even a little true, the house bill introduced by ONE democrat would have actually had a cosponser, received a hearing, and become law….

cannabineer · Mar 14, 2022

nuskool89 said:
you’d think if it were even a little true, the house bill introduced by ONE democrat would have actually had a cosponser, received a hearing, and become law….

Not with Repugs. All that normal process, poof. Never forget the hysterectomies.

cawolves · Mar 14, 2022

mooray said:
Cool thread title with excellent English, for a Russian stooge.

If China come in on Putin's war on Putin's side it *IS* WWIII

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If China come in on Putin's war on Putin's side it IS WWIII