It's my first time.. (with pics)

Dazzzer · Sep 20, 2012

Be gentle fellas, its my first set-up, looking for advice and constructive criticism. I was blind to the importance of a ppm meter (trying to save for a tri meter) until around week 5 when I got the Truncheon, I played a little too safe giving pretty much 1/4 strength nutes stepping up to 1/2 and full but on the 1/4 too long. The bigger girl at the front is a greedy bitch she is a week older than the others and is the first seed I ever germed and need your guys help to make her the beast I hope she can be.

2x Tangerine Dream (First TD germinated fresh the night of July 26th in a shot glass with h202 vdistilled solution approx .5ml (29%)/ltr) 1 germinated with PC's in same solution Aug 2nd
3x Pineapple Chunk in same solution started Aug 2nd.

6x2x7 Closet
600w MH/HPS
18/6, 12/12
RH 50%, 77-84 f
Dyna-Gro Grow, Bloom and Protekt
7 weeks veg for First TD (Tangerine Dream) *
6 weeks veg for other 4
Originally all DWC now with added drip feed (to rejuvenate the 4 that lost root systems on either bad transfers, poorly stored seeds, underfeeding, bad ph levels or something else I'm yet to discover)
Images are 1 week into flower
Most recent PH 5.6, PPM 840 (ECx700), 600 (ECx500) too weak?

*The additional veg time was to recuperate some growth in the 4 malnourished girls.

These are the pics I have, this girl is my main focus the others I'm just glad they survived and many lessons learn't thus far.....

They were all in DWC 3 gal buckets with an air stone each, had a few mishaps along the way with 4/5 which ill cover later, for now advice from here on in would be fantastic and greatly appreciated.

The 4 fittest will survive..

P.s This is a rough idea of the set up, the buckets have now been removed and the net pots implemented into a 35 gal shared res. The first TD's roots completely occupy the res with the other 4 feeding from a drip line.

FreeRangeZombie · Sep 20, 2012

600w in a 2' wide area is kinda close if u ask me and I am also suprised that ur temps are not higher cause of that but if its working then its working right.. I start my seedlings below 500 ppm and work my way up to 800-1200 depending on strain and size(conv-.5). They will keep growing with 600 ppm but u can prob raise that alittle as they look like they can handle it.

Dazzzer · Sep 21, 2012

Yeah the 2' is a restraint, it took a good few days to get the temps right, had some 86.7 with 40% rh initially, tried all sorts, invested in a more expensive cold mist humidifier with options 30-60% or always on, this units been a treat it is elevated to canopy level and placed in front of the oscillating fan, that cold air wants to fall into the plants but gets blown by the fan and the pulled through the light. I'm looking forward to an increase as they respond quickly to increases in food, thanks freerange.

Warlock1369 · Sep 21, 2012

2' is tight for a 600. I would use one of these to help with the high lumens in center. http://www.sunlightsupply.com/search.aspx?searchterm=904525 this will spread light out and let your walks reflect back to the plants. 900 ppm is good for end veg nutes but beginning flower should be under 800. Higher p-k can burn. Also first few days of 12/12 is transition time. Use veg nutes. Then go to 1/2 flower for first week or 2. Then 3/4. And only go more if you see plants need it. Growing different strains is tricky. You need to find the min 1 needs and max the others can take. But looks like you got things going good.

smokebros · Sep 21, 2012

I just want to give you props for some pretty decent looking plants brother. I like that you are using good nutrients that are relative to the cannabis plants needs. Keeping it simple can definitely have its advantages. Did you use the Dyna Grow 9-3-6 or 7-9-5?
I noticed a few deficiencies in a couple pictures but that all comes with practice and technique. You have a bright future in growing cannabis, keep up the good work.

Straightjacket · Sep 21, 2012

Looks good man, You will get a nice yield from that. great first grow.

Dazzzer · Sep 21, 2012

Warlock1369 said:
2' is tight for a 600. I would use one of these to help with the high lumens in center. http://www.sunlightsupply.com/search.aspx?searchterm=904525 this will spread light out and let your walks reflect back to the plants. 900 ppm is good for end veg nutes but beginning flower should be under 800. Higher p-k can burn. Also first few days of 12/12 is transition time. Use veg nutes. Then go to 1/2 flower for first week or 2. Then 3/4. And only go more if you see plants need it. Growing different strains is tricky. You need to find the min 1 needs and max the others can take. But looks like you got things going good.

Thanks warlock, really like the idea of that spreader, that looks like some pretty good preventative maintenance, effective and affordable, I hadn't even considered any adjustments with the light for distribution, will be looking into Canadian distributors...

Dazzzer · Sep 21, 2012

smokebros said:
I just want to give you props for some pretty decent looking plants brother. I like that you are using good nutrients that are relative to the cannabis plants needs. Keeping it simple can definitely have its advantages. Did you use the Dyna Grow 9-3-6 or 7-9-5?
I noticed a few deficiencies in a couple pictures but that all comes with practice and technique. You have a bright future in growing cannabis, keep up the good work.

Thanks a lot smokebros, I was persuaded by Homebrewers very informative side by side grows, I used the Dyna-gro 7-9-5 from 2 weeks veg onwards @ 1/4 strength or so then approx 1/2 after 3 weeks then just under full through into the first couple days of transition/flowering and now in the 2nd week have the bloom feed @ 700 ppm (.5) with that said the accuracy of my strengths was guesswork until I grabbed the ppm meter at around 5 weeks.

Dazzzer · Sep 21, 2012

Straightjacket said:
Looks good man, You will get a nice yield from that. great first grow.

Thanks man, I see a lot of guys on here talking about their g/watt aiming @ .75 to 1 g / watt, as a first time grow are there any general targets, i'd like to hit .5/watt if thats realistic??

Warlock1369 · Sep 21, 2012

First time grower just take it to the end. Don't worry about gpw. Finish. If you get .01 gpw and it's good shit you win. And most that talk gpw font even know how to figure gpw. Do don't trip.

homebrewer · Sep 22, 2012

Dazzzer said:
Thanks a lot smokebros, I was persuaded by Homebrewers very informative side by side grows, I used the Dyna-gro 7-9-5 from 2 weeks veg onwards @ 1/4 strength or so then approx 1/2 after 3 weeks then just under full through into the first couple days of transition/flowering and now in the 2nd week have the bloom feed @ 700 ppm (.5) with that said the accuracy of my strengths was guesswork until I grabbed the ppm meter at around 5 weeks.

Don't be afraid to mix the grow and bloom together in flowering to keep those plants green. Something like 70:30 bloom-to-grow will do you well start to finish. I'd also suggest watching those feeding levels. For this first grow, keep it simple at 500ppm (.5) or 1.0 EC. You've got plenty of time during future grows to screw up plants with increased feeding levels, just concentrate on going through the motions and not making too many mistakes this first round. Looking solid so far.

Dazzzer · Sep 22, 2012

Thanks homebrewer,

Would the 70:30 ratio get me close to the 1:3:2 you mentioned? with the 70:30 im thinking of (approx) 31ml bloom, 13ml grow and 3ml protekt (in 6 gl's of water) I'v worked that with 1 1/2 tsp's / gl as it guides for 2-3 tsps for recirculating and 1 tsp for non-recirculating, the main reasons for me aiming for the middle ground is that the bigger plant at the front is DWC in the res where as the other 4 are recirculating and i'm trying to not over feed.

Next grow will be the 70:30 throughout

homebrewer · Sep 22, 2012

Dazzzer said:
Thanks homebrewer,

Would the 70:30 ratio get me close to the 1:3:2 you mentioned?

80:20 gets you closer to a 1-3-2 but lets just be safe here with a 70:30.

with the 70:30 im thinking of (approx) 31ml bloom, 13ml grow and 3ml protekt (in 6 gl's of water) I'v worked that with 1 1/2 tsp's / gl as it guides for 2-3 tsps for recirculating and 1 tsp for non-recirculating, the main reasons for me aiming for the middle ground is that the bigger plant at the front is DWC in the res where as the other 4 are recirculating and i'm trying to not over feed.

Next grow will be the 70:30 throughout

If this combo puts you at 1.0 EC, then go for it.

Warriorbuds · Sep 22, 2012

Dazzzer said:
Thanks warlock, really like the idea of that spreader, that looks like some pretty good preventative maintenance, effective and affordable, I hadn't even considered any adjustments with the light for distribution, will be looking into Canadian distributors...

Hey fellow Canuck!! Plants look good!

sandiegojack2 · Sep 22, 2012

Be proud of your garden my friend...Looks awesome.....end result's will be a great yield of quality herb!! I only feed as necessary you are doing well kick up the Ca-Mg!!! you will need it for the blooms....Don't sweat the small stuff it's all about the bloom!!! jack let them all bloom!!!

Straightjacket · Sep 22, 2012

Dazzzer said:
Thanks man, I see a lot of guys on here talking about their g/watt aiming @ .75 to 1 g / watt, as a first time grow are there any general targets, i'd like to hit .5/watt if thats realistic??

I dunno man. I don't weigh my shit, I'm just happy to have handfuls and handfuls of bud

Kybudz · Sep 22, 2012

Straightjacket said:
I dunno man. I don't weigh my shit, I'm just happy to have handfuls and handfuls of bud

Only time i worry bout weight is when one of my buddies want to "borrow" some. I pretty much know what i pull a plant. When i did worry bouut it. Every time close 2and a haif zips. Per plant. But now using 5gallon bucket. Would say pull over 4ounces a plant now .hmmmmm gonna check. Got me curious. Lol

Dazzzer · Sep 22, 2012

Warriorbuds said:
Hey fellow Canuck!! Plants look good!

Much appreciated, I will be a Canuck citizen soon enough originally Manc, UK moved and married here 4/5 years back, was a northener for 16 years and a southener for 5 then moved here .... this is the side of the pond I call home

sandiegojack2 said:
Be proud of your garden my friend...Looks awesome.....end result's will be a great yield of quality herb!! I only feed as necessary you are doing well kick up the Ca-Mg!!! you will need it for the blooms....Don't sweat the small stuff it's all about the bloom!!! jack let them all bloom!!!

Thanks Jack, its reassurance like that that settles the nerves... Ca-Mg preference?? (to be used with the dyna-gro line ((i cant get magpro anywhere!!)) also the best carbs to be giving them later??

Straightjacket · Sep 22, 2012

Kybudz said:
Only time i worry bout weight is when one of my buddies want to "borrow" some. I pretty much know what i pull a plant. When i did worry bouut it. Every time close 2and a haif zips. Per plant. But now using 5gallon bucket. Would say pull over 4ounces a plant now .hmmmmm gonna check. Got me curious. Lol

yea borrow some lol. I'm going backwards. I used to use 5 gallon buckets now I'm using 8" pots and keep the plants smaller. still get 3 to 4 zips a plant but have room for more and dont use so much soil.

Dazzzer · Sep 23, 2012

Images flowering week 2

Does anyone post videos on their threads or journals?

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