Jacks vs Bottle nutrients grow comparison. DWC

bk78

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Come harvest, I don't want my buds full of Nitrogren, maybe you do?
you remove most the fan leaves in late veg/ early flower, I reduce the food in late flower(5th week) so the plants get rid of the unneeded fan leaves.
The results more or less the same, no body wants a full canopy of leaves a week before harvest, could cause high humidity in the canopy and this could cause bud rot, also this will reduce the light getting to the lower bud sites and ripening them, resulting in airy buds.
No,no,no you’re talking about defoliation now. I was wondering why your plants are dropping so many leaves?


last 7-10 days in flower is the ripening stage, the plants starts to shed lots of fan leaves and the plants coming to the end of its life.
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twentyeight.threefive

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First page on the link that @.Smoke posted. This guys theory, he was saying his ppms (980-1000) were running high with the GH line and his bud came out tasting bad, from his experience the JR's was able to run a little less in EC/PPM without showing deficiencies. For example with my House & Garden Aqua A+B Flakes 45ml plus multi zen and root excel, and beneficial bacteria Miicrobial mass, I'm seeing 1100-1300ppm. 2.1-2.5 EC's and my plants are happy. I'd love to run as little nutes as possible like he was saying, at like 600-800. Just enough to keep them thriving.
600ppm max feed. High ppm/EC feed doesn't equal better plants.

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Markshomegrown

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No,no,no you’re talking about defoliation now. I was wondering why your plants are dropping so many leaves?
I Lollipop my plant in late veg and again in early flower, haven't removed any leaves for a few weeks but I may start to open the canopy up by doing some light defoliation, give the cola's more room to grow.
IMO the plants need a large amount of fan leaves but they don't need a thick canopy.
 

Skittlez12

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I Lollipop my plant in late veg and again in early flower, haven't removed any leaves for a few weeks but I may start to open the canopy up by doing some light defoliation, give the cola's more room to grow.
IMO the plants need a large amount of fan leaves but they don't need a thick canopy.
I agree with you on this. 20211123_173500.jpg20211123_173436.jpg
Top view after Lollipop. Still nice and bushy.20211123_173727.jpg
 

drbudkilo

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First page on the link that @.Smoke posted. This guys theory, he was saying his ppms (980-1000) were running high with the GH line and his bud came out tasting bad, from his experience the JR's was able to run a little less in EC/PPM without showing deficiencies. For example with my House & Garden Aqua A+B Flakes 45ml plus multi zen and root excel, and beneficial bacteria Miicrobial mass, I'm seeing 1100-1300ppm. 2.1-2.5 EC's and my plants are happy. I'd love to run as little nutes as possible like he was saying, at like 600-800. Just enough to keep them thriving.
all fertilize comes from the exact same 20 or less compounds. 75% of all fertilizer comes from about 7 basic compounds. they are essentially all the same. I have always made my own fertilizer solution
they are very inexpensive. it cost about 1$ a liter or less to make 100:1 concentrate
 
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