Jim Ortega .....

SCARHOLE

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I have been noticing the name Jim Ortega alot
Any info/links on his Strains, an breeders who use his gear would be appreciated.
Seems like a very hard core old school breeder whos very underground.


Heres some stuff I learned.

-Jim Ortega

Grower and breeder of cannabis, responsible for the introduction of varieties Maple Leaf, Kush 4 Garlic Bud and through the exchange of seeds with Nevile Schoenmakers.
May be the same character also known as Maple Leaf Wilson, a member of the collective Sacred Seeds and one of the first growers Afghani varieties.​

-Mr nice seeds-Maple Leaf, Kush 4 Garlic Bud. Nevel said he did more for MrNice breeding than sam the skunk man....

Sensi seeds -we know the Ortega's a MIGHTY breeding partner for Sensi, being used in Black Dom, First Lady, Marley's Collie and perhaps others....
They sell the Maple leaf indica
-Legends Ultimate Indica
This combination of Breeder Steve’s Sweet Tooth (Spice of Life Seeds) and the infamous Ortega strain from California

-Dr greenthumbs -pure G13 is from Jim Ortega

-Subcool Used his Ortega/ Taco for breeding his Danny boy. Subcool also breeds with a G13 of unknown origin, Maybe its Ortegas?

-Dutch Passions sells Fem Ortega Indica." We consider Ortega Indica a medicinal cannabis variety. Ortega Indica is a hybrid of Northern Lights #1 and another strong Indica, both dating back to the late seventies."
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Nice resume, I got to check out some of his stuff.
 
An old school grower that has been running them for a long, long time. I have about 50 seeds stored and 5 in veg. I am smoking some of it from a fresh crop and it just has the most amazing smell and taste.
 
My avatar is Ultimate Indica but thats the Sweet Tooth Pheno, the Ortega pheno is more columnar here i'll find a pic of my Ortega pheno.
 
Heres the two phenos, ortega was topped and went insane with growth after.
The buds (while not trimmed the greatest) are covered and sticky. I can't wait to produce my own harvest of this absolutely amazing strain. The only smoke I've had so far that rivals it is Soma's NYC Diesel.

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Hey Ganymede are you running a journal here I could follow?? I'd like to tag along and see your grow, I love seein mari do her thing you know lol, +Rep on the pic's too thats looks like some dank smoke!! :leaf::peace::joint:
 
I am going to be starting my first journal very soon. I'll make sure i link you to it. This is my first grow and I'm allowed 22 plants under the MMAR so 5 are gonna be these beautiful LUIs! The other strains I am running are Northern Lights, Kings Kush, and a bunch of the freebies from the 'tude birthday promo. Thanks for showing interest in a journal, its the kick in the ass I need to actually put the effort into getting it going.
This is a real nice smoke, smooth and tasty with a super heavy hashy overtone to both the taste and smell. I wish I could share a bowl friend. :D
 
I use B'cuzz soil, my hydro shop guy recommends it and I am quite happy with it versus mixing my own and having to drive all over to get perlite, potting mix etc. I feed them Advanced Nutrients, I was influenced to choose this brand/system by the urban grower Remo's videos, I would really love to meet him. I also add 2ml/gallon of Grotek CalMax once every 4 waterings. :D

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I am going to be starting my first journal very soon. I'll make sure i link you to it. This is my first grow and I'm allowed 22 plants under the MMAR so 5 are gonna be these beautiful LUIs! The other strains I am running are Northern Lights, Kings Kush, and a bunch of the freebies from the 'tude birthday promo. Thanks for showing interest in a journal, its the kick in the ass I need to actually put the effort into getting it going.
This is a real nice smoke, smooth and tasty with a super heavy hashy overtone to both the taste and smell. I wish I could share a bowl friend. :D

Yeah bro be sure to link me, I'm a lover of ganja and tbh I get more enjoyment out of the growing part. I also like to follow along on other growers grows to see how other strains fare and perform in all the different styles of growing. And your grow I'd really like to follow as I've read a lot about the LUI but not seen many grows goin I can follow, so yeah please do, I'll look forward to it and i'll smoke my next bongsmilie for ya. :eyesmoke::peace:
 
-Dr greenthumbs -pure G13 is from Jim Ortega

I'd just like to say this has not been confirmed and all of the info at the Mr. Nice forums leads you to think dogless doesn't have the original G13. How can you believe this after all of the back and forth between Greenthumb and DD? Greenthumb pretty much called DD a liar saying he had talked to DD, paid him 25 G's, and wrote a number of posts saying "I would not lie to you this clone came directly from DD at great expense to us" it was only after he got busted out all over the place that this unsubstantiated statement came out from Dogless (supposed Jim Ortega). Dogless has since not provided any proof that he has the G13 or any varification from Neville or Shanti in fact Shanti has posted before that no one had any access to their parental stock. Also, Jim Ortega is friends with Neville, why doesn't Neville have the clone anymore if it is alive and well? The truth is that Greenthumbs G13 doesn't fit the profile of the original G13 at all.

Notice that throughout the whole thread no one provides any facts that support Dogless's statement.

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/6-breeders-support-information/6280-dr-greenthumbs-g13.html
 
I'd just like to say this has not been confirmed and all of the info at the Mr. Nice forums leads you to think dogless doesn't have the original G13. How can you believe this after all of the back and forth between Greenthumb and DD? Greenthumb pretty much called DD a liar saying he had talked to DD, paid him 25 G's, and wrote a number of posts saying "I would not lie to you this clone came directly from DD at great expense to us" it was only after he got busted out all over the place that this unsubstantiated statement came out from Dogless (supposed Jim Ortega). Dogless has since not provided any proof that he has the G13 or any varification from Neville or Shanti in fact Shanti has posted before that no one had any access to their parental stock. Also, Jim Ortega is friends with Neville, why doesn't Neville have the clone anymore if it is alive and well? The truth is that Greenthumbs G13 doesn't fit the profile of the original G13 at all.

Notice that throughout the whole thread no one provides any facts that support Dogless's statement.

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/6-breeders-support-information/6280-dr-greenthumbs-g13.html


Doc's G13 is kickin ass, whoever it came from;) I'll tell you right now $67 a seed was well spent. One of the nicest lookin plants I have ever seen and Im a month out from 12/12
 
Doc's G13 is kickin ass, whoever it came from;) I'll tell you right now $67 a seed was well spent. One of the nicest lookin plants I have ever seen and Im a month out from 12/12

got pics? is it fitting this description:

In its pure form it was apparently not very pleasant smoke, tasting like lawn clippings, soaked in a mixture of urine and feces (fecal flavors are common in pure afganicas) with a lovelly aftertaste of burning tires.The shear power could not be denied however and that's what made the strain's rep. As I said,G-13 was a breeders plant, (see MJ Botony p70) for a description of a sport but basically it's a plant that shows beneficial mutations which can be passed down tothe next gen. In the case of G-13 it was a scraglly plant with lowish yields, but it had the desirable trait of massive resin production. So much so, that if you let it go to long it could supposedly choke itself. Some sativas can do this, what Shanti calls the "Widow" sport is an example, but it's very rare in an indica. It was during Nevil's 83/84 collection trips to the US that he aquired, from Sandy W the only G-13 cuttings to ever leave Sandy's garden.
If not you just got taken. No one ever said you couldn't find nice plants from his gear he just uses well known names to pimp his gear and charge top dollar for seeds that should be going for much cheaper while polluting the market with misrepresented strains.

I would like to run this strain someday, seen very good things on it.

Ortega Pheno- https://www.seedboutique.com/Produc...Name=SeedList-Dutchgrown-Seeds-LUI-13&Type=PD

Just so you know Pacifics G13 doesn't even have any G13 in it.
 
got pics? is it fitting this description:

If not you just got taken. No one ever said you couldn't find nice plants from his gear he just uses well known names to pimp his gear and charge top dollar for seeds that should be going for much cheaper.



Just so you know Pacifics G13 doesn't even have any G13 in it.

We were talkin about Ortega, until you showed up;)

And ask DD if his 4 lb plants that he says came from "Nevil's" cut match that description.
 
It hasent been proven?
I dont expect Ortega, Nevel ,Shannti, Subcool, DrGreenthumb or anybreeder to prove anything?
In fact I have seen no proof that any breeder anywhere has done anything ever.
And I never will.
I take there word for it.
 
We were talkin about Ortega, until you showed up;)

Scarhole was the one who tried to slip in that little unproven fact about the G13.

And ask DD if his 4 lb plants that he says came from "Nevil's" cut match that description.
How many times have I said that I doubt his is the real deal either?
.........and I take it you don't have any pics of this be all end all of plants.

It hasent been proven?
I dont expect Ortega, Nevel ,Shannti, Subcool, DrGreenthumb or anybreeder to prove anything?
In fact I have seen no proof that any breeder anywhere has done anything ever.
And I never will.
I take there word for it.

Really? We're not talking about just any old strain, we're talking about a cut that hasn't been around for over 20 years that your boy has done nothing but make up stories to try and give credibility to his fake genetics all over the net to justify the price tag. As far as not seeing facts I guess you haven't been paying attention or maybe you just haven't been growing that long because the facts are all over the place. We've lost a lot over the years from some forums being shut down but there is still plenty of information out there especially about the people who you referenced except Greenthumb and his fake strains like G13 and Alaskan Thunderfuck which he magically has the original Thunderfuck in regular m/f form when it's a clone only.
 
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