SO first time starting a thread. Hope some experienced growers take time to read what I have going on here..
(right now i am about halfway thru week 4 of flowering)
started by getting 6 clones to go into a 2'x4'x5.5'
1 Pineapple express, 1 critical jack, 1 chocolope, 3 Confidential Cheese.
clones were in rockwool and for a few days stayed under a 2ft 4 bulb t5.
Then set up the 400w MH with a 4in fan/filter kit. using 6in cooltube with nice outer hood.
after roots were good enough i transplanted into roots organic potting soil into 3 gallon root pouches.
vegged for about 5 weeks until the tallest was about 15inches and shortest was 12 inches
i topped a few times each and realized i did that a couple times too much. each one has about 8-12 tops. i tried my best trimming off colas that wouldnt become much but i missed a couple but i dont want to cut them off this late.. ohwell..
So in veg i layed off using a base nutrient until about 3 weeks into veg. but in veg they all got
voodoo, piranha, tarantula, carboload, bio weed, superthrive, sns 604a, diamond black, bio marine, hygrozyme, earth juice grow, microblast as needed, and GO calmag as needed.
I also sprayed every other day (with plain water inbetween) with fasilitor, nitrozyme, and floralicious plus.
(i understand that i could have done with less bottles but i have access to many kinda of nutes and heard great results both in person and online with many of these nutes) (I will cut it back next grow i plan to try aptus in coco)
so throughout veg i had amazing results, even with temps getting up to 82 a few times and down to 55 more than a handful of nights. but averaging 60-75degrees
i did get fungus gnats so bad at one time that there were hundreds on yellow traps, controlled with sns 203 and predatory nematodes.
i kept one of the Cheeses in veg under a t5 in a small tent as i began to bloom the 5 others.
First 2 weeks i gave them voodoo, piranha, tarantula, bud candy, bud ignitor, stimul8er and earth juice bloom, sns 604b and i stopped foliar feeding and began adding fasilitor at double the dose for the stretch weeks of bloom.
after 2 weeks i now feed earth juice bloom, bio marine, hygrozyme, fasilitor, bud candy, sns 604b, microblast as needed, calmag, b-52, and bio bud.
One thing i did mess up was watering with water that phed a little high. i might have gotten a few waterings at 6.5 but i had problems with a pen and the ph of the soil became as high as 7.3 and this all happened shortly after going into flowering when i noticed random lower leaves were starting to twist and become faded in the veins and others at top were simply becoming more and more yellow. I found that i had iron and zinc deficiencies and this can happen when ph is higher than 6.5.
Last night i watered everything until about 20% runoff. with fasilitor, hygrozyme, 604b, bud candy. at ph of 6.15
The runoff only got down to maybe 6.9 on a couple of plants but at first it was reading about 7.3
I hope that things turn around for me.. everythign is frosted but its had ph higher than 7 for a couple of weeks now and i cant believe it took me so long to flush it out like this.. previously i have only watered until runoff barely starts. where i read you need atleast 15-20% runoff to help keep things balanced and fresh and healthy. its just such a pain in the ass with how many tops there are and the plants only fit a specific way in the tent so its a bitch to get the runoff out of there.
one other thing i ran into after the big fungus gnat problem was these little tiny microscopic white things moving under my pots in the saucers. i thought i had root aphids so i was flushing with 203 a couple times this one week but last night i got a 100x scope and found out that NOPE.. i have the beneficial mites that live in the soil feasting on fungus gnat larva AND i have springtails.. not sure if they came from the soil or if they were attracted to the soil through the attic roof space or something (im venting out into my attic.)
So either way i now know that i have super healthy soil just kinda was fucking things up with ph being too high.
I am wondering what to ph my water at on my next watering which will probably be 3-4 days out still because of how much i drenched they last night. If the soil was at 7.3 and i watered them with ph 6.2 until 20% ish runoff and it only took the ph down to maybe 7.. should i water the next time with even lower phed solution?
I am worried because most of the plants are just not looking as green as they did when i put them into flower. should i add a little more nitrogen to a couple waterings in the form of floralicious plus? or keep with the low low nitrogen food and hope that there is enough nutrients available that once the ph gets down closer to 6.5 (ideally i want 6.4) and hope that everything gains its color back? the buds look GREAT right now despite all of this. smells wonderful too!.
Thanks!
I have learned a lot from this site already and hope to keep learning.
again pardon my first post and if i was all over the place. feedback appreciated! let me have it ;D
(right now i am about halfway thru week 4 of flowering)
started by getting 6 clones to go into a 2'x4'x5.5'
1 Pineapple express, 1 critical jack, 1 chocolope, 3 Confidential Cheese.
clones were in rockwool and for a few days stayed under a 2ft 4 bulb t5.
Then set up the 400w MH with a 4in fan/filter kit. using 6in cooltube with nice outer hood.
after roots were good enough i transplanted into roots organic potting soil into 3 gallon root pouches.
vegged for about 5 weeks until the tallest was about 15inches and shortest was 12 inches
i topped a few times each and realized i did that a couple times too much. each one has about 8-12 tops. i tried my best trimming off colas that wouldnt become much but i missed a couple but i dont want to cut them off this late.. ohwell..
So in veg i layed off using a base nutrient until about 3 weeks into veg. but in veg they all got
voodoo, piranha, tarantula, carboload, bio weed, superthrive, sns 604a, diamond black, bio marine, hygrozyme, earth juice grow, microblast as needed, and GO calmag as needed.
I also sprayed every other day (with plain water inbetween) with fasilitor, nitrozyme, and floralicious plus.
(i understand that i could have done with less bottles but i have access to many kinda of nutes and heard great results both in person and online with many of these nutes) (I will cut it back next grow i plan to try aptus in coco)
so throughout veg i had amazing results, even with temps getting up to 82 a few times and down to 55 more than a handful of nights. but averaging 60-75degrees
i did get fungus gnats so bad at one time that there were hundreds on yellow traps, controlled with sns 203 and predatory nematodes.
i kept one of the Cheeses in veg under a t5 in a small tent as i began to bloom the 5 others.
First 2 weeks i gave them voodoo, piranha, tarantula, bud candy, bud ignitor, stimul8er and earth juice bloom, sns 604b and i stopped foliar feeding and began adding fasilitor at double the dose for the stretch weeks of bloom.
after 2 weeks i now feed earth juice bloom, bio marine, hygrozyme, fasilitor, bud candy, sns 604b, microblast as needed, calmag, b-52, and bio bud.
One thing i did mess up was watering with water that phed a little high. i might have gotten a few waterings at 6.5 but i had problems with a pen and the ph of the soil became as high as 7.3 and this all happened shortly after going into flowering when i noticed random lower leaves were starting to twist and become faded in the veins and others at top were simply becoming more and more yellow. I found that i had iron and zinc deficiencies and this can happen when ph is higher than 6.5.
Last night i watered everything until about 20% runoff. with fasilitor, hygrozyme, 604b, bud candy. at ph of 6.15
The runoff only got down to maybe 6.9 on a couple of plants but at first it was reading about 7.3
I hope that things turn around for me.. everythign is frosted but its had ph higher than 7 for a couple of weeks now and i cant believe it took me so long to flush it out like this.. previously i have only watered until runoff barely starts. where i read you need atleast 15-20% runoff to help keep things balanced and fresh and healthy. its just such a pain in the ass with how many tops there are and the plants only fit a specific way in the tent so its a bitch to get the runoff out of there.
one other thing i ran into after the big fungus gnat problem was these little tiny microscopic white things moving under my pots in the saucers. i thought i had root aphids so i was flushing with 203 a couple times this one week but last night i got a 100x scope and found out that NOPE.. i have the beneficial mites that live in the soil feasting on fungus gnat larva AND i have springtails.. not sure if they came from the soil or if they were attracted to the soil through the attic roof space or something (im venting out into my attic.)
So either way i now know that i have super healthy soil just kinda was fucking things up with ph being too high.
I am wondering what to ph my water at on my next watering which will probably be 3-4 days out still because of how much i drenched they last night. If the soil was at 7.3 and i watered them with ph 6.2 until 20% ish runoff and it only took the ph down to maybe 7.. should i water the next time with even lower phed solution?
I am worried because most of the plants are just not looking as green as they did when i put them into flower. should i add a little more nitrogen to a couple waterings in the form of floralicious plus? or keep with the low low nitrogen food and hope that there is enough nutrients available that once the ph gets down closer to 6.5 (ideally i want 6.4) and hope that everything gains its color back? the buds look GREAT right now despite all of this. smells wonderful too!.
Thanks!
I have learned a lot from this site already and hope to keep learning.
again pardon my first post and if i was all over the place. feedback appreciated! let me have it ;D
