The back yard soil hasn’t been touched in over 20 year

Yamweedy

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Am I sitting on a goldmine of nutes?

You think the soil is gonna rich with natural nutes from the native soils

Or do you think the soil is gonna be garbage

Literally the soil has been touched in over 20 years. I plan to make over this backyard.
 

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HydroKid239

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Am I sitting on a goldmine of nutes?

You think the soil is gonna rich with natural nutes from the native soils

Or do you think the soil is gonna be garbage

Literally the soil has been touched in over 20 years. I plan to make over this backyard.
I would judge by the plant life coming out of it.
 

Hobbitgoblin

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Fk the nutes three soil biological side must be livid unless you've been Somehow Here Again with chlorinated tap water then dang 20 yeard for nothing
 

Broclee

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You probably need to amend the soil with a good compost. weeds will grow anywhere and. NOt a good Indicator of soil health so might want to get it tested also so you know what to add. You can get a simple soil test kit from pretty much nay good hardware and garden center.
 

Hobbitgoblin

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You probably need to amend the soil with a good compost. weeds will grow anywhere and. NOt a good Indicator of soil health so might want to get it tested also so you know what to add. You can get a simple soil test kit from pretty much nay good hardware and garden center.
Why are weeds not a indicator of good soil most weeds are edible and have medicinal properties. And last but absolutely not least they work like cover crops and The Roots are absolutely crucial to livinng soil no roots of any kind no mycoriz or beneficial bacteria or fungi excetera??
 

Hollatchaboy

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Why are weeds not a indicator of good soil most weeds are edible and have medicinal properties. And last but absolutely not least they work like cover crops and The Roots are absolutely crucial to livinng soil no roots of any kind no mycoriz or beneficial bacteria or fungi excetera??
agreed. The more life in the soil, the better. Also, in nature, weeds serve a purpose. Dandelions for example, indicate compacted, and acidic soil from calcium loss. They help replace the calcium and loosen the soil and eventually go away.
 

farmingfisherman

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I'm sheet mulching it. So far we have done over a 1000 sq feet. Nothing more satisfying than seeing what happens to soil when its smothered under cardboard and crap ton of wood chips. As far as the dandies go I kind them, open during the day feeding the bees and closed up at night. The ones we have are the native variety (tall spindly). After nearly 8 months when planting in our mulched areas we still can find where they were, sometimes almost still alive hoping for something to expose them to sunlight again. The worm life is amazing along with plenty of other critters.
 

Hollatchaboy

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I'm sheet mulching it. So far we have done over a 1000 sq feet. Nothing more satisfying than seeing what happens to soil when its smothered under cardboard and crap ton of wood chips. As far as the dandies go I kind them, open during the day feeding the bees and closed up at night. The ones we have are the native variety (tall spindly). After nearly 8 months when planting in our mulched areas we still can find where they were, sometimes almost still alive hoping for something to expose them to sunlight again. The worm life is amazing along with plenty of other critters.
Good to hear. The worms help the soil as well. Microbes and enzymes. I bet they love the cardboard.
 

Star Dog

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Stick a spade into it and grab a handful, it shouldn't be wet sticky or sandy, I'd be look for something dark like leaf mould or compost type structure.

I'd be concerned about the host of beasties/eggs and larvae in anything from outside.

Fwiw my dad bags leafs in autumn and stores them for 2/3 seasons before mixing it into the garden, he swears by it for his veggies.
 

quiescent

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The dandelions and a tight soil are more an indicator of too much magnesium in relation to the calcium, not an absence of it.

Gypsum is the solution. Dolomite lime would make it worse. Ag lime would help with balancing the magnesium and calcium but not with the compaction.
 

Hollatchaboy

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The dandelions and a tight soil are more an indicator of too much magnesium in relation to the calcium, not an absence of it.

Gypsum is the solution. Dolomite lime would make it worse. Ag lime would help with balancing the magnesium and calcium but not with the compaction.
What he said! Lol
 
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