So I got a like on this comment and just wanted to follow up. I'm no longer so sure about these guys. Seedheaven (Lala/Derg Corra) no longer carries their gear - I was told because they were "all about the money"; I was mistaken about their level of involvement, as they were only a vendor for the TLT seeds, not part of the team. I also don't think Cristalin is involved with them either, just that they might have used a line he had previously worked with. And I heard that they were caught using stolen photos awhile back and Frenchy Cannoli called them out on it. I also emailed them asking about their "1975 Pakistan" because their write up on it strongly implied that it was the original UBC Chemo parent strain. The very next day, they had a completely rewritten description up on their site. I honestly think they may have just been reselling bulk seeds from JOTI by the way they made it sound at first. While I was happy with their Chitrali, I can no longer vouch for the legitimacy of their stories or their genetics. My apologies to anyone who may have bought from them based solely on my reccomendation. It was true to what I knew at the time, as I have dealth with Lala for many years and he's never carried anyone's gear on his site that wasn't on the up and up. I certainly hope I didn't inadvertantly steer anyone wrong. I will say that I think their genetics are probably fairly true to their descriptions as far as they know, but I'm not so sure they're not just reselling seeds for a profit of making f2s of other people's work/collections, writing a new description, and marking up the price.Very legit. Collectors of landrace genetics from all over the world. A couple of the people involved are Lil Bald Man Lala from from Derg Corra Collective in Denmark and Cristalin from Underground Seed Collective, both of whom have been around for ages. A lot of the lines they offer are feral collections, so be aware that it's often not like growing something that's been worked by human hands; and undesirable traits that have been bred out of modern cultivars will still be present in some specimens, but there will also be rare and unique expressions not typically found in the stuff you're used to. They do also have some worked heirloom lines though. Without naming names, there are more than a few breeders whose landrace lines have come from them and no credit has been given, with fantastic stories being invented to explain where they sourced their "super secret landrace lines". Another legit source of unique landraces is Angus at The Real Seed Company.